berniethebolt Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/leicester-is-more-theres-a-new-buzz-in-the-air-of-this-superdiverse-and-starstrewn-east-midlands-city-9350072.html
Thracian Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 There's much to be said for the diversity but this is just a contrived excuse to draw attention to the kind of success Leicester has had for years and at a time when the population was considerably smaller. I can understand Soulsby's positive words and why not but, unfortunately, the success stories only serve to mask the other side which also seems to be worsening with the ever increasing diversity of population.. How many murders have there been in the City this last couple of years? Why would one crime investigator admit to me that he hopes he never has to go to court over his latest enquiries because he'd have to move himself and his family out if he did for fear of the consequences. He referred to an increasingly big and brazen crime area in Leicester which was once nothing but a bustling but pleasant inner city suburb. Elsewhere other imported problems Soulsby conveniently chooses not to mention are making residents lives a misery and some are clearly afraid to go out of their homes at certain times. Yet the problems are already permanent or semi-permanent. You could have written and justified that article most any way you liked but a random poll in Leicester city centre would reveal huge frustration at the state of the City, the public view of it as a permanent building site and so many other concerns that I can't be bothered to detail but which I come across most every day of my life.
Finnegan Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 To write an article that painted Leicester as some sort of crime infested hole being driven rapidly backwards would be equally sensationalist and stupid. We live in a reasonable city. Try living in Tottenham or Croydon.
Strokes Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 We live in a reasonable city. Try living in Tottenham or Croydon.I'll give that a miss ta! I'm not really a city kind of guy.
Merging Cultures Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Nice article. It's great to have the City written about in a positive manner. Enjoy the fact that we are winning lots of things and doing well at the moment.
Guest MattP Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Soulby ramping on about diversity and all the winners he's talking about that are from Leicester appear to be indigenous white British. Does he think people aren't going to notice?
Finnaldo Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Soulby ramping on about diversity and all the winners he's talking about that are from Leicester appear to be indigenous white British. Does he think people aren't going to notice?
Finnaldo Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Morgan was born in Leicester? The expression fitted in so well, and he was in the picture. I couldn't help myself Souls by does thinly veil it with 'inspiration', and to be fair Mark Selby's manger is Mukesh Parmar. Funnily enough I didn't watch any of the bake off or sewing bee so I can't really comment if any of the works were influenced, and I can't imagine you watching it either Matt
Guest MattP Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Sorry I forgot about Mukesh, hopefully we don't forget him when the new sporting statue goes up. I hate the phrase "indigenous white British" so much. Why? You ok with Indigenous Irish or Australian?
Finnegan Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 I hate the implication that a group here are somehow culturally more welcome, purely based on the accident of birth and especially when skin colour is imprinted on the issue. How far back do you go to be indigenous? I'm not as pro immigration as you'd imagine, I think policies like the Japanese - where degree level education / training or a good ten years experience in a practical trade is a qualifier for a work permit is a good start. I wouldn't be stood at the border with open arms waving everyone through, regardless of what they can contribute - or certainly not while the existing population (regardless of what colour they are) rank with a high unemployment rate. But I do wish immigration would more frequently be discussed in practical terms and a lot less in cultural, ethnic and sentimental ones. And certainly a lot less in abjectly stupid sensationalist ones, ie implying that an entire eastern European bloc is about to turn up at Dover.
Guest MattP Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 I don't like the fact indigenous has been a word used to discuss immigration, can probably thank Nick Griffin for that. It's almost made it a dirty word. The 'indigenous population being wiped out due to immigration argument is as ridiculous as the 'we always had immigrants so we should open our borders' on the other side argument. Both cme across as a bit pathetic and don't actually address the real issues that need to be spoken about.
Harry - LCFC Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Why? You ok with Indigenous Irish or Australian? I don't mind it but I really don't like 'white' being added in as if you have to be white to be truly British.
Guest MattP Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 I don't mind it but I really don't like 'white' being added in as if you have to be white to be truly British. What? Who has ever done that?
Harry - LCFC Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 What? Who has ever done that? You mentioned one such name yourself
Strokes Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 I hate the implication that a group here are somehow culturally more welcome, purely based on the accident of birth and especially when skin colour is imprinted on the issue. How far back do you go to be indigenous? I'm not as pro immigration as you'd imagine, I think policies like the Japanese - where degree level education / training or a good ten years experience in a practical trade is a qualifier for a work permit is a good start. I wouldn't be stood at the border with open arms waving everyone through, regardless of what they can contribute - or certainly not while the existing population (regardless of what colour they are) rank with a high unemployment rate. But I do wish immigration would more frequently be discussed in practical terms and a lot less in cultural, ethnic and sentimental ones. And certainly a lot less in abjectly stupid sensationalist ones, ie implying that an entire eastern European bloc is about to turn up at Dover. My mum told me I wasn't an accident.
Harry - LCFC Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Where? I'm sure I heard Nick Griffin express the view that 'British' meant 'white British' on Question Time a few years ago.
Strokes Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 I'm sure I heard Nick Griffin express the view that 'British' meant 'white British' on Question Time a few years ago.British isn't really a nationality, if you think about it.
Guest MattP Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 I'm sure I heard Nick Griffin express the view that 'British' meant 'white British' on Question Time a few years ago. If he did he's an idiot. Why anyone would take on something Nick Griffin said as a definition is baffling though.
Rincewind Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 British isn't really a nationality, if you think about it. Britain is a group of nations
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