Kasper Schmeichels distribution

[Captain...]

Seems to be something to do with the modern coaching :-

- Goalkeepers aiming kicks to the flanks instead of the middle of the pitch (so it goes out if you're not that accurate like Kasper).

- All the players wandering across the pitch together at goal kicks like wilderbeest on the plains.

- Not leaving anyone upfront when you have a corner meaning no chance of clearing the ball properly.

Their might be tactical reasons for this, rugby style kickin for territory. He clearly aims for the flanks as that us where Ulloa heads for goal kicks, if he wins the ball, great, if he misses it it is easy to shepherd the ball out of play and give away a throw in deep in their half. We do the same at kick offs. It gives us chance to organise ourselves and set ourselves to pen the opposition in. Look at Southampton's goals at the weekend neither would have been scored if those clearances found touch.

Yes we would have lost possession, but we wouldn't have been exposed to a quick counter attack while we are out of position.

[HoustonFox]

I think what makes him so frustrating is that we see how good he CAN be with his distribution but it's almost like he gets carried away after pinging one to put someone clean through or sprays it across the field nicely. Bit like when I play golf and hit a wonder drive down the middle but then three putt for bogey!

[Clever Fox]

Kasper is an average GK at best, he has the potential but like others is not delivering. Possession is a huge part of the game at this level and he gives the ball away to often by poor kicking. When he gets possession the opposition back off because they know what he's going to do. Why cant he go short some times retain possession and build from there.

[hesapeepingtom]

kasper blocked me on twitter a while back for moaning about is upfield hoofs which 9 times out of 10 fall to the oppostion.

[chris_lcfc_85]

kasper blocked me on twitter a while back for moaning about is upfield hoofs which 9 times out of 10 fall to the oppostion.

 

9 times out of 10 is nonsense, i honestly think some of you watch a different game or just want something to moan about

[hesapeepingtom]

must be just coincidence whenever i watch him then.

[Captain...]

kasper blocked me on twitter a while back for moaning about is upfield hoofs which 9 times out of 10 fall to the oppostion.

 

Apart from the exaggeration, but how many times does the opposition goal kicks and clearances get picked up by our centre backs? 9 times out of 10? The majority of long balls forward are won by the centre backs as they are attacking the ball and just need to head it forwards as far as possible, even if the striker wins the second ball is generally swept up by the defence as there are more of them.

 

It is not some massive flaw of Kasper's, but a normal result of lumping the ball forwards, you get the odd good one, and if that gets a goal then it is all worth it.

 

I would like to see him play it out short more but with some of the recent errors from Konch and Morgan playing it in our own half I understand why he doesn't. 

[Guest Col city fan]

Why has this thread come up now? I've always thought Kasper's distribution was generally awful. I recall saying as much under Sven (and Nige) when we insisted on the big ball up to Beckford who could not control a bag of wet cement.

We looked a much better side last season when we were playing the ball out of defence, through the midfield and getting forward quickly as a unit.

This long kick up from Kasper is awful football.

[Babylon]

Why has this thread come up now? I've always thought Kasper's distribution was generally awful. I recall saying as much under Sven (and Nige) when we insisted on the big ball up to Beckford who could not control a bag of wet cement.

We looked a much better side last season when we were playing the ball out of defence, through the midfield and getting forward quickly as a unit.

This long kick up from Kasper is awful football.

 

I'd rather kasper just kicked it at the minute, better than seeing him roll it to a defender who loses posession within 3 seconds. Least the stats will look like we've been in the opps half

[Guest Col city fan]

I'd rather kasper just kicked it at the minute, better than seeing him roll it to a defender who loses posession within 3 seconds. Least the stats will look like we've been in the opps half

Hey, you could have a point there....

[Babylon]

Hey, you could have a point there....

Do they class as shots as well?

[ScouseFox]

he has a very similar pass accuracy to most other bottom half keepers. he's at 46%, compared to speroni (37%), green (48%), heaton (45%), guzan (48%), hull's 3 keepers average 45.3%, foster (48%), krul (57%) & pantilimon (44%). even courtois at chelsea only has 57%, whilst joe hart is on a massive 59%. howard playing for everton who pass a lot of balls and don't go long very often is just above 60%. 

 

in fact bar begovic at stoke, presumably higher because due to peter crouch his long goal kicks are "completed" more than everyone else's, anyone who kicks long more than they play short is struggling to get much above 50%. with kasper on 46% i'm not sure it's much to complain about. in fact only 4 keepers have made a "key pass" this season, they are courtois, mignolet, forster at southampton and kasper schmeichel. 

 

i'm not sure what you expect from a keeper who's average pass length is 53m? i doubt david beckham or pirlo or gerrard would average more than 50% completion if all their passes were 50 yards or more to relatively small strikers or wingers. 

[filbertway]

he has a very similar pass accuracy to most other bottom half keepers. he's at 46%, compared to speroni (37%), green (48%), heaton (45%), guzan (48%), hull's 3 keepers average 45.3%, foster (48%), krul (57%) & pantilimon (44%). even courtois at chelsea only has 57%, whilst joe hart is on a massive 59%. howard playing for everton who pass a lot of balls and don't go long very often is just above 60%. 

 

in fact bar begovic at stoke, presumably higher because due to peter crouch his long goal kicks are "completed" more than everyone else's, anyone who kicks long more than they play short is struggling to get much above 50%. with kasper on 46% i'm not sure it's much to complain about. in fact only 4 keepers have made a "key pass" this season, they are courtois, mignolet, forster at southampton and kasper schmeichel. 

 

i'm not sure what you expect from a keeper who's average pass length is 53m? i doubt david beckham or pirlo or gerrard would average more than 50% completion if all their passes were 50 yards or more to relatively small strikers or wingers. 

 

I think a lot of people don't tend to look at the bigger picture and consider things like this. In comparison it's not actually that bad. Then you always get someone who says "Why should we settle for that just because other teams do". You can't win.

[ScouseFox]

I think a lot of people don't tend to look at the bigger picture and consider things like this. In comparison it's not actually that bad. Then you always get someone who says "Why should we settle for that just because other teams do". You can't win.

 

it's to be expected that a keeper is going to concede possession sometimes, surely. unless like stoke you have someone who will win 90% of long balls, you're going to have stats like this showing your keeper's passing success is pretty low. that's why every team has it, except for arsenal, swansea, spurs and everton because they will pass from the back 90% of the time. unless we get better ball playing centre backs or full backs and keep it on the deck more often from goal kicks we're going to see kasper kick a few out of play or a few that go amiss aiming for ulloa etc. just a pointless thing to moan about!

[Captain...]

he has a very similar pass accuracy to most other bottom half keepers. he's at 46%, compared to speroni (37%), green (48%), heaton (45%), guzan (48%), hull's 3 keepers average 45.3%, foster (48%), krul (57%) & pantilimon (44%). even courtois at chelsea only has 57%, whilst joe hart is on a massive 59%. howard playing for everton who pass a lot of balls and don't go long very often is just above 60%.

in fact bar begovic at stoke, presumably higher because due to peter crouch his long goal kicks are "completed" more than everyone else's, anyone who kicks long more than they play short is struggling to get much above 50%. with kasper on 46% i'm not sure it's much to complain about. in fact only 4 keepers have made a "key pass" this season, they are courtois, mignolet, forster at southampton and kasper schmeichel.

i'm not sure what you expect from a keeper who's average pass length is 53m? i doubt david beckham or pirlo or gerrard would average more than 50% completion if all their passes were 50 yards or more to relatively small strikers or wingers.

And you can fvck off with your facts and stats, someone has already said he loses the ball 9 times out of ten, and he said it first so it takes precedent. Close thread sack Kasper recall Logan.

[RedSoxUK]

Kasper's distribution is actually pretty awesome considering the other GKs in the prem.

He doesn't often slice, mis-time, or mis-place too many kicks... And if you saw Hamer's distribution vs Stoke, you would realise how lucky we have been.

[filbertway]

For what it's worth, I actually like that he's looking for an out as soon as the ball is out of play, if more players showed this awareness there'd be so many more goals from quick throw-ins and free kicks.

 

Eventually the dream is that we have defenders comfortable with receiving the ball and able to pick out a pass, for now though I really don't have an issue.