MrSpaM Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Well no, you can't compare Mourinho and Fergie here. Pearson grabbed an opposition player by the throat, and then refused to let him rejoin the field. When have Mourinho or Fergie done anything like that? That's just bizarre behaviour. Even if it is just a 'joke'. Mourinho's and Fergie's 'antics' were controlled. The purpose of them was to wind up the opposition and give his team an advantage. Pearson's 'antics' are just those of someone who is feeling the pressure. Fair play to him that he's come out fighting, at least it shows he's not given up yet. But he shouldn't have put himself in such an awkward position in the first place. He shouldn't have put himself in an awkward situation? so he asked McArthy to slide tackle him did he? If somebody slide tackled you in the street after you'd had a knee operation you'd just laugh? Even after being told to **** off after you'd initially tried to laugh it off with the guy? He's not a robot, he reacted just the same as anybody else would
hackneyfox Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Mourinho poked an opposition coach in the eye.Most people I know thinks he's a Cnut because of that.
LanguedocFox Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 How is Pearson losing it? His demeanour now - ie, at his press conference yesterday - was exactly the same as when we lost against Cardiff, lost against Watford, won the Championship at a canter, beat Man U and lost two points due to a dodgy refereeing decision against Liverpool. If ever there was a man who "can meet with triumph and disaster and treat those two imposters just the same" it's Pearson. You can see why decent journalists such as Henry Winter like and respect Pearson: because they can see he is intelligent, good humoured and interesting. And I am fvcked if I can understand why some of our fans cannot see it.
Guest MattP Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Mourinho poked an opposition coach in the eye. Beat me to it.
Fox Ulike Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 I think it was natural surprise, shock and anger, and it was interesting when he said he'd had both his knees replaced and that was quite a tumble ..... You imagine how that feels - you have glass knees and know it and you get taken out from behind without seeing it coming. Takes an awful lot of control to not turn around and lamp the bloke!!! Maybe. But you'd expect Pearson to be able to show some control! For me, the most bizarre and embarrassing thing was when Pearson wouldn't let go of his shirt. The throat grab just happened in the heat of the moment... so fair enough maybe... but I was just cringing when he kept hold of the shirt... I was like "Let go Nigel..... please let go... Let him go now...." And. if that wasn't bad enough. He's now laid into Gary Lineker!! I've never been a Pearson-Out lout. I like the man. However, I have lost a bit of respect for him over all this. If he'd just said "yeah that was all a bit stupid I was just mucking about but then it got a bit silly. I'm sorry.". It would probably all have been forgotten about.
Fox Ulike Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 He shouldn't have put himself in an awkward situation? so he asked McArthy to slide tackle him did he? If somebody slide tackled you in the street after you'd had a knee operation you'd just laugh? Even after being told to **** off after you'd initially tried to laugh it off with the guy? He's not a robot, he reacted just the same as anybody else would If someone slide-tackled me in the street: I would grab them by the throat. Great point. If someone accidentally slide-tackled me right on the edge of a football game: I wouldn't. Does that make any kind of sense to you?
5waller5 Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 If someone slide-tackled me in the street: I would grab them by the throat. Great point. If someone accidentally slide-tackled me right on the edge of a football game: I wouldn't. Does that make any kind of sense to you? If you don't see it coming (he had his back to it don;t forget) in the spit second that it happens (is it cerebral cortex part of the brain that reacts without thought??) your reaction would be the same until your "thinking" brain has a chance to process the information and step in.
shailen Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 He shouldn't have put himself in an awkward situation? so he asked McArthy to slide tackle him did he? If somebody slide tackled you in the street after you'd had a knee operation you'd just laugh? Even after being told to **** off after you'd initially tried to laugh it off with the guy? He's not a robot, he reacted just the same as anybody else would Who is going to slide tackle you in the street haha. Clearly, the incident was accidental and there was no malice from McCarthy. Neither was there any malice from Pearson who was just bantering him.
Fox Ulike Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 If you don't see it coming (he had his back to it don;t forget) in the spit second that it happens (is it cerebral cortex part of the brain that reacts without thought??) your reaction would be the same until your "thinking" brain has a chance to process the information and step in. Maybe. But as I've already said, it's the holding of the shirt that's the most embarrassing bit. Also, I've have more respect for Pearson if he just said what you said, (i.e. "I just reacted to being slide-tackled.") I've have more respect for him than laying into the MoTD pundits!
5waller5 Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Maybe. But as I've already said, it's the holding of the shirt that's the most embarrassing bit. Also, I've have more respect for Pearson if he just said what you said, (i.e. "I just reacted to being slide-tackled.") I've have more respect for him than laying into the MoTD pundits! I agree with all of that. (sorry can't offer pointless argument, I feel I've let everyone down).
Fox Ulike Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 I agree with all of that. (sorry can't offer pointless argument, I feel I've let everyone down). Don't worry just blame Gary Lineker.
MrSpaM Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 If someone slide-tackled me in the street: I would grab them by the throat. Great point. If someone accidentally slide-tackled me right on the edge of a football game: I wouldn't. Does that make any kind of sense to you? So let's just get this scenario down shall weYou had a major operation about a year ago and your managing a football team One match day you just happen to be playing against a team I play for I accidently crock you at the side of the pitch Banter ensues I then get up after said banter and tell you to **** off as I get up to go back on the pitch You wouldn't be like 'hold on a minute mate, you just took me out, why are you telling me to **** off'? I'm not sure where you sit at the ground, but it was obvious from where I was sitting that Pearson was trying to have a laugh about it and it was McCarthy that started giving it the big one before Pearson grabbed him. The forth official was telling McCarthy to calm down not Pearson.
Fox Ulike Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 So let's just get this scenario down shall we You had a major operation about a year ago and your managing a football team One match day you just happen to be playing against a team I play for I accidently crock you at the side of the pitch Banter ensues I then get up after said banter and tell you to **** off as I get up to go back on the pitch You wouldn't be like 'hold on a minute mate, you just took me out, why are you telling me to **** off'? Question: Does the banter ensue before or after I grab you around the throat?
Fox92 Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Of course he isn't. But this amount of media pressure would test anybody. Look at other managers throughout history, it got to a point where Alex Ferguson banned the BBC from interviewing him. Look at how Mourinho is nowadays. The media are out to get certain people and they influence their readers/listeners significantly.
MrSpaM Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Question: Does the banter ensue before or after I grab you around the throat? Can I just ask if you were at the game or not and actually saw it happen? The hand on the throat lasted about a millisecond, McCarthy then got up and started giving Pearson ****. Pearson grabbed his shirt and the forth official was telling McCarthy to calm down not Pearson. It's no surprise that Pearsons not even being charged for it now.
Itsthejoeker Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Did anyone even see the stuff Di Canio did?
sly1 Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 It's all getting to him but because how arrogant He taking on the chin we will see in a couple of games if we don't start picking up points no so if gets is P45 this time up the blues onwards& upwards
MattyFromLE Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 I think most would "lose the plot" if you are constantly second guessed, scrutinised, boo'd at, doubted after every move you make. The man dragged us from our lowest point, and some of our fans don't like him because he is a bit of an ass to the media. That in itself if stupid. Imagine that, being really good at your job, bringing success to your workplace, but people not liking you because you don't give much away in interviews. Laughable. It's all getting to him but because how arrogant He taking on the chin we will see in a couple of games if we don't start picking up points no so if gets is P45 this time up the blues onwards& upwards I have no idea what you just said.
Guest seanfox778 Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 The whole thing is ridiculous now, what if McArthur did say something to Nige? Nige doesn't have to just take it, it looked like all he was doing was getting the player to repeat what he said. It wasn't like he was just going to knock him out. There was nothing aggressive about it, he just held on to his shirt a little. All seemed harmless to me. If McArthur felt threatened or anything he would've come out and said something, no doubt he discussed it with Pardew and the rest of the Palace players, if something nasty really did happen someone would've said something. My guess (that's all it is) is that McArthur said something unsavoury to Nige as he was walking away and he just asked him to repeat what he said and why, obviously it wasn't the place to discuss it. I think he said something that shocked or hit a nerve with Nigel. Again this is just my opinion.
MrSpaM Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 The whole thing is ridiculous now, what if McArthur did say something to Nige? Nige doesn't have to just take it, it looked like all he was doing was getting the player to repeat what he said. It wasn't like he was just going to knock him out. There was nothing aggressive about it, he just held on to his shirt a little. All seemed harmless to me. If McArthur felt threatened or anything he would've come out and said something, no doubt he discussed it with Pardew and the rest of the Palace players, if something nasty really did happen someone would've said something. My guess (that's all it is) is that McArthur said something unsavoury to Nige as he was walking away and he just asked him to repeat what he said and why, obviously it wasn't the place to discuss it. I think he said something that shocked or hit a nerve with Nigel. Again this is just my opinion. And it's also galvanised by the fact Pardew was telling McCarthy to shut up and get on with it, and it looked to me like Pardew apologised to Pearson after it happened as well.
EnglishOxide Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 And it's also galvanised by the fact Pardew was telling McCarthy to shut up and get on with it, and it looked to me like Pardew apologised to Pearson after it happened as well. I'm a big Pearson defender in all this but I think this bit is incorrect mate. All Pardew saw was Nigel holding his shirt. So he shouted at the fourth official then mouthed something along the lines of 'what was that about mate?' to Pearson after he let go who just ignored him.
MrSpaM Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 I'm a big Pearson defender in all this but I think this bit is incorrect mate. All Pardew saw was Nigel holding his shirt. So he shouted at the fourth official then mouthed something along the lines of 'what was that about mate?' to Pearson after he let go who just ignored him. At the end of the day nobody really knows what was said, but I think the fact Pearson isn't getting charged for any of it shows how ridiculous the entire situation is, and how much people are over reacting.
inckley fox Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 I think most would "lose the plot" if you are constantly second guessed, scrutinised, boo'd at, doubted after every move you make. The man dragged us from our lowest point, and some of our fans don't like him because he is a bit of an ass to the media. That in itself if stupid. Imagine that, being really good at your job, bringing success to your workplace, but people not liking you because you don't give much away in interviews. Laughable. I don't think Pearson can seriously suggest that the fans' abuse of him has been to his detriment, or at least not more than any other club. A poll on here had 70-75% against his 'sacking' when I last looked, one on Sky at 70%, another poll on here months ago had support for him at the 80% mark, and the only polls I'm aware of which have come out against him were still 50-50. That's exceptionally strong support for any manager of a club, let alone one doing as badly as we are. And I'm sure people are far more worried about whether he can be a success in terms of getting results than they are about how nice he is in interviews. He could send a gift-wrapped turd in the post to Martin O'Neill and get away with it if he looked like he was going to do a good job of keeping us up. In fact, looking at some opinions in the Lineker argument, he could probably get away with that even if he didn't.
roger the dodger Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 i don.t think he is losing it i just think his ego is bigger than the talent he has manage in the premier league. and lets be fair he is arrogant not a good trait that
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