Grewks Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Is he really? I've got to be honest...I fail to see how his actions are any different to that of the likes of Fergie in the past, as well as mourinho this season. You could also put the likes of Simeone into that category...probably Pardew as well with his 'headbutt' on Meyler at Hull. The difference is. As the side is currently in a poor run of form, every possible incident which occurs, ranging from his answers in press conferences to the Mccarthur incident, is being used as a stick to beat him with. Take his press conference today. If that was Mourinho, he would of gone on and on about how the 'Media want to ruin him/chelsea' and that everyone 'is against them'. But Nige just handled it calmly and sensibly...yet is still criticised. Criticism of results, performances, signings and team selection is an acceptable reason to dislike a manager and want to get rid....But his answers in press conferences isn't justification for a sacking.
EnglishOxide Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 You are right. It won't stop people reading this and still using quotes taken out of context to try and use against him though. What I find with a lot of people on here is the inability to he open minded. Here we are with the internet at our finger tips and feedback of fellow fans widely available yet people blindly stick to their agendas rather than taking a viewpoint on and going 'ah, that's worth considering I've never saw it that way before'. I mean there are people on here who genuinely think Pearson means the whole fanbase when he told one abusive tosser to '**** off and die' whilst in the same breath mention Alan Pardew as a manager we should have gone for (who said 'shut your noise you old ****' to a fellow professional and 60 year old man in Pellegrini). The last couple of days people have been hysterical. Let's just all calm down and remember to support LCFC (and by extension Nigel Pearson), eh?
ozleicester Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Is he really? I've got to be honest...I fail to see how his actions are any different to that of the likes of Fergie in the past, as well as mourinho this season. You could also put the likes of Simeone into that category...probably Pardew as well with his 'headbutt' on Meyler at Hull. The difference is. As the side is currently in a poor run of form, every possible incident which occurs, ranging from his answers in press conferences to the Mccarthur incident, is being used as a stick to beat him with. Take his press conference today. If that was Mourinho, he would of gone on and on about how the 'Media want to ruin him/chelsea' and that everyone 'is against them'. But Nige just handled it calmly and sensibly...yet is still criticised. Criticism of results, performances, signings and team selection is an acceptable reason to dislike a manager and want to get rid....But his answers in press conferences isn't justification for a sacking. To be fair, Fergie and Mourinho were/are managing clubs running to win the league, they are winning most games and they can just always deflect to "look at my record". NP's record is very good in the championship and with us, but in the premier league, it is nothing of note... in fact whilst i wasnt expecting definite survival, i expected to be doing better than we are, so his Prem record is currently poor, however, in my opinion, he treats the media as though he is Fergie or Mourinho. He admits the prem is tough and i dont believe he manages that stress and media spotlight well, he didnt when were had the losing run in the champ and hes not now. he gets SO defensive when questioned, first by Stinger, but now pretty much by all media, comments like "i can take care of myself" when it just wasnt needed, show that he is feeling the pressure. He has done well to get us to the prem, and weve been unlucky not to have done better this year. BUT!, he is not big enough and does not have the record of achievement to give him the power to treat the media (and its viewers) with such disdain. I dislike him from his displays with the media, i assume its fear and pressure and i hope that someone at the club sends him to a professional to learn how to deal and deflect when under pressure, cos i would also like to see him manage us next season.
foxfanazer Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Everything is magnified in the prem. If that Mcarthur 'incident' happened in the championship you'd hardly see anything about it. I do see that he's under pressure and he could do with tweaking his approach to the media
cc_star Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Don't really get the people saying 'losing it' at all He had a pop at one supposed 'fan' who was no doubt hurling abuse at him & the owners for the preceding 90mins... It's not like Pearson did a Cantona Then, he tries to have a laugh with McArthur who just bailed him over, but he seems to have taken it the wrong way so Pearson holds on to him as if to say "hang-on mate..." Then MotD fill their airtime by blowing that out of all proportion, so Pearson calls them out on it Which our hallowed Lineker gets arsey about and does himself no favours, sniping internal club affairs from the comfort of a TV studio
Guest MattP Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 It's just become another stupid cliché. One person says it and others latch on. Football fans all over. No other sports fans seem to do this.
BrummieFOX Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Yea, I agree it's unfair to say he's 'losing it' but he certainly hasn't done himself any favours in the past few weeks/months. Stupid decision to go after Lineker and MotD and he's probably damaged any sort of relationship he had with the media. When you're fighting for survival, a few pals in the media can do the world of good. He'll be even more under the spotlight now and the pressure will only build.
Babylon Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 I reckon the media are after him. Your tin pot stuff like talksport will be, but most of your respected journo's clearly like Pearson. The national guys who cover the midlands openly admit to liking him on twitter and many of the articles today are very respectful of him and are offering advice and warnings rather than laying in to him.
MrSpaM Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Cannot understand why anybody would be thinking Pearson is 'losing it', it sounds more like our owners are losing the plot tbh. You have to commend Pearson for still sticking with us if what we are reading in the papers this morning and Gary's 'leak' ends up being true.
MooseBreath Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Not sure if he's "losing it" as such but he definitely looks like he is suffering under the pressure. You can tell he desperately wants to remain in control and keep up his ice cold public image but he's making things worse for himself by refusing to acknowledge when he has been a bit of a tit.
HighPeakFox Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 It would be difficult for him to NOT be feeling under pressure. What does it matter whether or not he owns up to being a bit of a tit? It alters little and just prolongs matters. Stick to the football say I - the decisions, picks and formations often baffle me, but goodness knows what goes on in training, and I really cannot think of someone I want in place of him right now anyway. As for the lofty accusations that he's 'an arrogant coont' etc..........my God, who amongst us is perfect? I've met plenty of people who fit that description, many of them at football matches over the years, and many of them prone to violence at the slightest disagreement. I even daresay one or two writing here fall into that category......
WardyisPukka Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 The pressure definitely getting to him and some of his comments have been a bit bizarre which he has't fully explained due to this personality and not being open with the media (bar Henry Winter) He should stay till the end of the season but can see him going in the summer as can sense that he doesnt enjoy PL limelight at all and would prefer a lower league club
catfordfox Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 He's not losing it at all imo - I think he's got a pretty dry sense of humour, which when combined with him not taking the media circus/social media debate very seriously, doesn't come across well in the 24 hour news cycle 'what's the LATEST SCANDAL' 'focus on one two second incident for days' news loop. He's never spoken about internal club affairs as far as I can remember, but he's never had to deal with this much attention before. There was an interview with him a few months ago when he said he quite enjoyed the media demands - I think he treats it as a bit of a game, cat and mouse, how much can he talk without giving them a story etc. Like I say, not sure it comes across that well when fractured into soundbites, but given that most journos who know him like him, that has nothing to do with whether he's 'losing it' or not Like the 'can handle myself interview' - he was asked something about 'not seeing [McArthur] coming' or whatever, that's what he was responding to re 'handling myself'. Another dry joke, which tbh he should have accompanied with an apology 'if anyone was upset' - but again, that's just having a way with the media which doesnt fit with how the media want him to be. Same with the 'strangling' thing, he was laughing, McArthur took it the wrong way, said something, he tried to pull him back to sort it out - again didnt look good when scrutinised for days, but refusing to behave in exactly the way the media expect you to isn't a sin imo
shailen Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Watch his press conferences, his style hasn't changed throughout the season. He never has a go at anyone in his press conferences, unlike other managers, and always maintains his cool. Liverpool away was the perfect example, he had every right to criticise the referee for giving the two penalties, but instead chose to back the need for technology.
5waller5 Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Be a title contender and you can be a maverick. Be bottom of the league and you are probably a bit wiser to not draw attention to yourself.
catfordfox Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 He's not losing it at all imo - I think he's got a pretty dry sense of humour, which when combined with him not taking the media circus/social media debate very seriously, doesn't come across well in the 24 hour news cycle 'what's the LATEST SCANDAL' 'focus on one two second incident for days' news loop. He's never spoken about internal club affairs as far as I can remember, but he's never had to deal with this much attention before. There was an interview with him a few months ago when he said he quite enjoyed the media demands - I think he treats it as a bit of a game, cat and mouse, how much can he talk without giving them a story etc. Like I say, not sure it comes across that well when fractured into soundbites, but given that most journos who know him like him, that has nothing to do with whether he's 'losing it' or not Like the 'can handle myself interview' - he was asked something about 'not seeing [McArthur] coming' or whatever, that's what he was responding to re 'handling myself'. Another dry joke, which tbh he should have accompanied with an apology 'if anyone was upset' - but again, that's just having a way with the media which doesnt fit with how the media want him to be. Same with the 'strangling' thing, he was laughing, McArthur took it the wrong way, said something, he tried to pull him back to sort it out - again didnt look good when scrutinised for days, but refusing to behave in exactly the way the media expect you to isn't a sin imo Actually i think all of that explains why some fans think he's 'arrogant' - he doesn't act in the way they think a manager should, and they can't cope
lgfualol Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 If we had won on Saturday and Pearson still did that McArthur thing, the whole of Foxestalk would hail him as a hero. Same with telling that fan to die. I just think it is pressure, which you cant blame.
shailen Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 If we had won on Saturday and Pearson still did that McArthur thing, the whole of Foxestalk would hail him as a hero. Same with telling that fan to die. I just think it is pressure, which you cant blame. This is the sad truth. People blow things out of proportion when we are losing and things are not going our way. If Mourinho lost games at Chelsea, their fans would question some of his antics.
shailen Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Does anyone else think that Pearson may be playing a similar game to Mourinho at Chelsea. Where its 'us against the rest of the world', with all the negative media we are receiving recently. It certainly helps Chelsea get that extra 5% every game. Pearson is a smart man, and knows the consequences of his actions, so maybe there is an underlying motive to some of his actions.
Fox Ulike Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Is he really? I've got to be honest...I fail to see how his actions are any different to that of the likes of Fergie in the past, as well as mourinho this season. You could also put the likes of Simeone into that category...probably Pardew as well with his 'headbutt' on Meyler at Hull. The difference is. As the side is currently in a poor run of form, every possible incident which occurs, ranging from his answers in press conferences to the Mccarthur incident, is being used as a stick to beat him with. Take his press conference today. If that was Mourinho, he would of gone on and on about how the 'Media want to ruin him/chelsea' and that everyone 'is against them'. But Nige just handled it calmly and sensibly...yet is still criticised. Criticism of results, performances, signings and team selection is an acceptable reason to dislike a manager and want to get rid....But his answers in press conferences isn't justification for a sacking. Well no, you can't compare Mourinho and Fergie here. Pearson grabbed an opposition player by the throat, and then refused to let him rejoin the field. When have Mourinho or Fergie done anything like that? That's just bizarre behaviour. Even if it is just a 'joke'. Mourinho's and Fergie's 'antics' were controlled. The purpose of them was to wind up the opposition and give his team an advantage. Pearson's 'antics' are just those of someone who is feeling the pressure. Fair play to him that he's come out fighting, at least it shows he's not given up yet. But he shouldn't have put himself in such an awkward position in the first place.
5waller5 Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Well no, you can't compare Mourinho and Fergie here. Pearson grabbed an opposition player by the throat, and then refused to let him rejoin the field. When have Mourinho or Fergie done anything like that? That's just bizarre behaviour. Even if it is just a 'joke'. Mourinho's and Fergie's 'antics' were controlled. The purpose of them was to wind up the opposition and give his team an advantage. Pearson's 'antics' are just those of someone who is feeling the pressure. Fair play to him that he's come out fighting, at least it shows he's not given up yet. But he shouldn't have put himself in such an awkward position in the first place. I think it was natural surprise, shock and anger, and it was interesting when he said he'd had both his knees replaced and that was quite a tumble ..... You imagine how that feels - you have glass knees and know it and you get taken out from behind without seeing it coming. Takes an awful lot of control to not turn around and lamp the bloke!!!
onme edson Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Yea, I agree it's unfair to say he's 'losing it' but he certainly hasn't done himself any favours in the past few weeks/months. Stupid decision to go after Lineker and MotD and he's probably damaged any sort of relationship he had with the media. When you're fighting for survival, a few pals in the media can do the world of good. He'll be even more under the spotlight now and the pressure will only build. Bang on matey! He's not doing himself any favours either with his silly dig at Lineker, in fact he's alienating himself even more from the Leicester fans. He seems to have a f u attitude. I'm the boss and if you don't like it too bad!
Corky Posted 10 February 2015 Posted 10 February 2015 Well no, you can't compare Mourinho and Fergie here. Pearson grabbed an opposition player by the throat, and then refused to let him rejoin the field. When have Mourinho or Fergie done anything like that? Mourinho poked an opposition coach in the eye.
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