Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 You're kidding?!? All of the "Usual Suspects" with between 10 and 60 posts who were last here in 2013 are springing up and demanding he be sacked and are swarming through the place like Orcs through Mordor. Most don't even go to the games and the worst are the ones who only ever listen on t'wireless. I'll happily have a debate with anyone about Pearson in/out but starting a thread to "Organise" to get the manager out? Ridiculous. The people who are doing the so-called organising will be much quieter when we're on our 5th manager in 2 years and back where Pearson found us. This cuts to the chase why 'Pearson out' is just the folly of fickle football fans. Success is build on consistency - not chopping and changing like Fulham, Cardiff etc (Palace are an exception to this rule). Panic now, and a sacking could likely end up with 5 a managers in 2 years, and low and behold we're back struggling in the league below. Who would all the haters appoint anyway? There is no one more who deserves to manage our club now than the person who found it in the third tier. I find it no coincidence that the Pearson out campaign is gaining strength as the media (who clearly don't have a great relationship with NP) are digging their knives in. Can you all not see the media agenda against him? If not, I suggest you start to read how different newspapers report the same story - it's basic stuff - and some of you seem to be buying it. NP haters grow up, realise what you've got, stop the negatively, get behind the boys and SUPPORT. Does what he's done command no loyalty at all? I find the whole thing remarkable for its stupidity. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Guest Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 This cuts to the chase why 'Pearson out' is just the folly of fickle football fans. Success is build on consistency - not chopping and changing like Fulham, Cardiff etc (Palace are an exception to this rule). Panic now, and a sacking could likely end up with 5 a managers in 2 years, and low and behold we're back struggling in the league below. Who would all the haters appoint anyway? There is no one more who deserves to manage our club now than the person who found it in the third tier. I find it no coincidence that the Pearson out campaign is gaining strength as the media (who clearly don't have a great relationship with NP) are digging their knives in. Can you all not see the media agenda against him? If not, I suggest you start to read how different newspapers report the same story - it's basic stuff - and some of you seem to be buying it. NP haters grow up, realise what you've got, stop the negatively, get behind the boys and SUPPORT. Does what he's done command no loyalty at all? I find the whole thing remarkable for its stupidity. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes. Be endlessly supportive of him as he goes from one howler to another.. Selection Bias - Examples of such with Hamer where he was in goal for a successful spell and made no glaring errors while being involved in a number of clean sheets - he brings in a 42 year old man who was one of his buddies at Middlesbrough in the 90's and without warning makes him the number 1. I could live with this if Schwarzer proved competent but he is making a shocking error a game at the moment. Albrighton inexplicably being frozen out despite looking very bright in his limited appearances and proving he is the only one at the club capable of crossing the ball. Knockaert completely frozen out for what? Presumably something personal. I could go on for quite some time but you get the point.. Tactical naivety - Best recent example has to be the 5 at the back.. He goes to the Emirates and we play 5 at the back with a small measure of success in that we played ok and didnt get battered.. so this gives the man the bright idea to go in with the same policy to Aston Villa who score at a rate of about 1 goal in every 2 games. At times he plays us with a lot of width and no Ulloa and other times Ulloa plays but there is no width on the park. Again just a couple of examples of where our beloved leader gets it wrong. Inability to get on with people - The list of people he has vanished from the regular set up without a trace nor explanation is staggering. He can't handle the very gentle local media - refusing to be interviewed by Stringer for eg is pretty darn childish. He'll sacrifice the good of the team to stamp out ego or personality. Behaviour - His behaviour as the manager of this club this season has been a disgrace. Telling paying customers to FOAD was a sackable offence alone but it was let slide and most people rationalised that they deserved it for daring question the great leader. Choking McArthur was vile, bullying behaviour and could be argued as gross misconduct. Again it's all a laugh amongst the fawners who think its behaviour becoming of a representative of the club. He's tarnished the name of the club and the reputation of the King Power brand. Again flabbergasted he survived either act personally. He's even managing to take pot shots at a legend in the history of this club, who helped us through the toughest spell this club ever had in Gary Lineker (even using idle tabloid gossip to point score) - yet people on here defend that and say Lineker was disloyal and in the wrong. Refusal to shoulder blame - Almost every loss we are 'unlucky' in the eyes of NFP. Despite the statistics and most people's football instincts telling a different tale almost every week. For our poor business in the transfer market Terry Robinson got the blame and the bullet, not Pearson. Had the nerve to say people who dare criticize him or his team can not bother turning up to games in the future - yeah it's always someone elses fault. He blamed Match Of The Day for making a big issue about his choke incident - embarrassing. Delusion about quality of playing squad - Thought the squad was good enough to go well this season and refused to adapt when it became clear that it wasn't. He's had 2 transfer windows this season and ample resources to get things right. We are bottom of the league with good reason. Look at Paul Konchesky for example, he was barely good enough in the Championship at Left back yet despite this NFP has kept him in the team throughout this season and failed to replace him in 2 windows. Squad littered with good championship players but if they find the step up difficult to make you have to adapt and make changes. Resting on your laurels because you oversaw the promotion is not good enough. I've barely scratched the surface. In my humble opinion, he is out of his depth. There is no media agenda against him.. He is the one who is picking fights with all of the wrong people.. Large majority of media have been extremely kind to him to date and said what a good job they believe he is doing. The kindness tends to disappear when you start picking fights with people. I'll always support Leicester City. No manager is bigger than the club. Hence why despite it being achingly painful to support a NFP led team, I still do it. I'm not a hater, I just want the club to do well and I feel his time has long since run out. It's probably too late to salvage this season but it's not too late to make a change for the better. Forward thinking clubs like Southampton don't let affection for a man cloud their judgement in pursuit of constant improvement and have shown that they are prepared to be cold when required. Look at the uproar when they got rid of Adkins and brought in Pochettino and look where they are now. I never understand the idea of revelling in mediocrity. Anyway my two penneth worth.
iancognito Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Who would all the haters appoint anyway? There is no one more who deserves to manage our club now than the person who found it in the third tier. I find it no coincidence that the Pearson out campaign is gaining strength as the media (who clearly don't have a great relationship with NP) are digging their knives in. Can you all not see the media agenda against him? If not, I suggest you start to read how different newspapers report the same story - it's basic stuff - and some of you seem to be buying it. NP haters grow up, realise what you've got, stop the negatively, get behind the boys and SUPPORT. Does what he's done command no loyalty at all? I find the whole thing remarkable for its stupidity. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Exactly. Unite to get rid of our most successful manager of recent times? You can't even unite to agree who you'd replace him with. It'd be nice to have a bit of a siege mentality where all the fans were behind the team in trying - even if we fail - to stay up but instead you fall for all of the stories invented by hacks who have an agenda against a manager who won't give them a soundbite. It's a good job some of our fans never fought in the war. One bomb lands in the trenches and they scream like schoolgirls and run for cover.
Guest Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Exactly. Unite to get rid of our most successful manager of recent times? You can't even unite to agree who you'd replace him with. It'd be nice to have a bit of a siege mentality where all the fans were behind the team in trying - even if we fail - to stay up but instead you fall for all of the stories invented by hacks who have an agenda against a manager who won't give them a soundbite. It's a good job some of our fans never fought in the war. One bomb lands in the trenches and they scream like schoolgirls and run for cover. Which media have an agenda against him? Name me other managers that would survive 2 points from a possible 39. Media been soft on him and he's done well to avoid heavy criticism.
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Yes. Be endlessly supportive of him as he goes from one howler to another.. Selection Bias - Examples of such with Hamer where he was in goal for a successful spell and made no glaring errors while being involved in a number of clean sheets - he brings in a 42 year old man who was one of his buddies at Middlesbrough in the 90's and without warning makes him the number 1. I could live with this if Schwarzer proved competent but he is making a shocking error a game at the moment. Albrighton inexplicably being frozen out despite looking very bright in his limited appearances and proving he is the only one at the club capable of crossing the ball. Knockaert completely frozen out for what? Presumably something personal. I could go on for quite some time but you get the point.. Tactical naivety - Best recent example has to be the 5 at the back.. He goes to the Emirates and we play 5 at the back with a small measure of success in that we played ok and didnt get battered.. so this gives the man the bright idea to go in with the same policy to Aston Villa who score at a rate of about 1 goal in every 2 games. At times he plays us with a lot of width and no Ulloa and other times Ulloa plays but there is no width on the park. Again just a couple of examples of where our beloved leader gets it wrong. Inability to get on with people - The list of people he has vanished from the regular set up without a trace nor explanation is staggering. He can't handle the very gentle local media - refusing to be interviewed by Stringer for eg is pretty darn childish. He'll sacrifice the good of the team to stamp out ego or personality. Behaviour - His behaviour as the manager of this club this season has been a disgrace. Telling paying customers to FOAD was a sackable offence alone but it was let slide and most people rationalised that they deserved it for daring question the great leader. Choking McArthur was vile, bullying behaviour and could be argued as gross misconduct. Again it's all a laugh amongst the fawners who think its behaviour becoming of a representative of the club. He's tarnished the name of the club and the reputation of the King Power brand. Again flabbergasted he survived either act personally. He's even managing to take pot shots at a legend in the history of this club, who helped us through the toughest spell this club ever had in Gary Lineker (even using idle tabloid gossip to point score) - yet people on here defend that and say Lineker was disloyal and in the wrong. Refusal to shoulder blame - Almost every loss we are 'unlucky' in the eyes of NFP. Despite the statistics and most people's football instincts telling a different tale almost every week. For our poor business in the transfer market Terry Robinson got the blame and the bullet, not Pearson. Had the nerve to say people who dare criticize him or his team can not bother turning up to games in the future - yeah it's always someone elses fault. He blamed Match Of The Day for making a big issue about his choke incident - embarrassing. Delusion about quality of playing squad - Thought the squad was good enough to go well this season and refused to adapt when it became clear that it wasn't. He's had 2 transfer windows this season and ample resources to get things right. We are bottom of the league with good reason. Look at Paul Konchesky for example, he was barely good enough in the Championship at Left back yet despite this NFP has kept him in the team throughout this season and failed to replace him in 2 windows. Squad littered with good championship players but if they find the step up difficult to make you have to adapt and make changes. Resting on your laurels because you oversaw the promotion is not good enough. I've barely scratched the surface. In my humble opinion, he is out of his depth.There is no media agenda against him.. He is the one who is picking fights with all of the wrong people.. Large majority of media have been extremely kind to him to date and said what a good job they believe he is doing. The kindness tends to disappear when you start picking fights with people. I'll always support Leicester City. No manager is bigger than the club. Hence why despite it being achingly painful to support a NFP led team, I still do it. I'm not a hater, I just want the club to do well and I feel his time has long since run out. It's probably too late to salvage this season but it's not too late to make a change for the better. Forward thinking clubs like Southampton don't let affection for a man cloud their judgement in pursuit of constant improvement and have shown that they are prepared to be cold when required. Look at the uproar when they got rid of Adkins and brought in Pochettino and look where they are now. I never understand the idea of revelling in mediocrity. Anyway my two penneth worth. Whilst I disagree with this, you make and expand on your points very well. Although if I'm going to be criticised for a an fathomable loyalist bias, I think some of your points are equally negatively bias - you'll have to forgive me for not expanding further, I'm on this tapatalk thing on my iPhone 4s and its late! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Which media have an agenda against him? Name me other managers that would survive 2 points from a possible 39. Media been soft on him and he's done well to avoid heavy criticism. I think Dyche would have - a club, who in this context, are in a fairly similar situation to us (ie newly promoted). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Guest Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Whilst I disagree with this, you make and expand on your points very well. Although if I'm going to be criticised for a an fathomable loyalist bias, I think some of your points are equally negatively bias - you'll have to forgive me for not expanding further, I'm on this tapatalk thing on my iPhone 4s and its late! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Nothing wrong with disagreeing. I look forward to reading your version when you are better placed to do so. I've tried my best not to let emotion spill into it where possible.
iancognito Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Yes. Be endlessly supportive of him as he goes from one howler to another.. Selection Bias - Examples of such with Hamer where he was in goal for a successful spell and made no glaring errors while being involved in a number of clean sheets - he brings in a 42 year old man who was one of his buddies at Middlesbrough in the 90's and without warning makes him the number 1. I could live with this if Schwarzer proved competent but he is making a shocking error a game at the moment. Albrighton inexplicably being frozen out despite looking very bright in his limited appearances and proving he is the only one at the club capable of crossing the ball. Knockaert completely frozen out for what? Presumably something personal. I could go on for quite some time but you get the point.. Tactical naivety - Best recent example has to be the 5 at the back.. He goes to the Emirates and we play 5 at the back with a small measure of success in that we played ok and didnt get battered.. so this gives the man the bright idea to go in with the same policy to Aston Villa who score at a rate of about 1 goal in every 2 games. At times he plays us with a lot of width and no Ulloa and other times Ulloa plays but there is no width on the park. Again just a couple of examples of where our beloved leader gets it wrong. Inability to get on with people - The list of people he has vanished from the regular set up without a trace nor explanation is staggering. He can't handle the very gentle local media - refusing to be interviewed by Stringer for eg is pretty darn childish. He'll sacrifice the good of the team to stamp out ego or personality. Behaviour - His behaviour as the manager of this club this season has been a disgrace. Telling paying customers to FOAD was a sackable offence alone but it was let slide and most people rationalised that they deserved it for daring question the great leader. Choking McArthur was vile, bullying behaviour and could be argued as gross misconduct. Again it's all a laugh amongst the fawners who think its behaviour becoming of a representative of the club. He's tarnished the name of the club and the reputation of the King Power brand. Again flabbergasted he survived either act personally. He's even managing to take pot shots at a legend in the history of this club, who helped us through the toughest spell this club ever had in Gary Lineker (even using idle tabloid gossip to point score) - yet people on here defend that and say Lineker was disloyal and in the wrong. Refusal to shoulder blame - Almost every loss we are 'unlucky' in the eyes of NFP. Despite the statistics and most people's football instincts telling a different tale almost every week. For our poor business in the transfer market Terry Robinson got the blame and the bullet, not Pearson. Had the nerve to say people who dare criticize him or his team can not bother turning up to games in the future - yeah it's always someone elses fault. He blamed Match Of The Day for making a big issue about his choke incident - embarrassing. Delusion about quality of playing squad - Thought the squad was good enough to go well this season and refused to adapt when it became clear that it wasn't. He's had 2 transfer windows this season and ample resources to get things right. We are bottom of the league with good reason. Look at Paul Konchesky for example, he was barely good enough in the Championship at Left back yet despite this NFP has kept him in the team throughout this season and failed to replace him in 2 windows. Squad littered with good championship players but if they find the step up difficult to make you have to adapt and make changes. Resting on your laurels because you oversaw the promotion is not good enough. I've barely scratched the surface. In my humble opinion, he is out of his depth. There is no media agenda against him.. He is the one who is picking fights with all of the wrong people.. Large majority of media have been extremely kind to him to date and said what a good job they believe he is doing. The kindness tends to disappear when you start picking fights with people. I'll always support Leicester City. No manager is bigger than the club. Hence why despite it being achingly painful to support a NFP led team, I still do it. I'm not a hater, I just want the club to do well and I feel his time has long since run out. It's probably too late to salvage this season but it's not too late to make a change for the better. Forward thinking clubs like Southampton don't let affection for a man cloud their judgement in pursuit of constant improvement and have shown that they are prepared to be cold when required. Look at the uproar when they got rid of Adkins and brought in Pochettino and look where they are now. I never understand the idea of revelling in mediocrity. Anyway my two penneth worth. Selection bias - Hamer was to blame for Tottenham's free kick winner down here and in about 8 games he couldn't kick it straight once. There were as many people calling for a 42 year old to go straight in to replace him as for him to lkeep his place but granted I would have only had Schwarzer as cover, not as No.1 Albrighton is out of the side because of fitness - I'll quote his dad "He was number 3 at Villa for his fitness but he's not up to Leicester's standards for his stamina and isn't in their top 20 fittest so the manager doesn't think he can last a full 90. It's about opinions and Mark's not convinced him yet" Knockaert has taken plenty of stick on this forum and others for him leaving the full back exposed. When he has played he's pulled up no trees. Tactical naivety - Moan after moan on this forum about chopping and changing from game to game. On one of the few occasions where he keeps a system, he gets whinged at. Look at the game, we created far more playing 451 than 442. One tipped wide, one header hits the post. Inability to get on with people - Who cares? It's not about being popular. Stringer's line of questioning and admitted dislike of Pearson makes him look like the ****. He's actually taking pride in being ignored and seems to boast about it on the few occasions I've caught his sh!tty programmes. He speaks to most other journo's which suggests it's not Pearson who's at fault there. Behaviour - I'm sorry, those arguments are ridiculous. The guy behind him was shouting unbelievable abuse and deserved to get some back. He didn't choke McArthur and even the player admitted it was something out of nothing. People around the club such as Birchenall and Paul Gallagher have come out and said the media response was embarrassing and blown up out of all proportion. King Lineker didn't need to shit stir about the sacking and loves his own publicity. Yes he helped save the club but don't forget for many years he wanted f*** all to do with this club and again it served his own publicity purposes to chip in and help. His mocking support on MOTD is buttock-clenchingly embarrassing. And I cannot believce any fan of this club woud use a statement like "damaging the King Power brand" WHO GIVES A S**T about that apart from Executives? King Power is a foreign Duty Free company, we've far more important things to concern ourselves with than their reputation here which is pretty much zero anyway. No-one outside of Leicester or Thailand knows what King Power is anyway. Refusal To Shoulder Blame - name me one manager that takes the rap for a bad display. You will never hear Wenger, Mourinho, Van Gaal, Allardyce or whoever say "I didn't get the formation right today" and again, how often does Jose have a sulk with the Beeb/Sky? Ferguson didn't talk to them for 12 years. Denial about the squad - Very few people said the team that amassed over 100 points last season should be broken up and most were happy at Upson, Albrighton, Ulloa and Camiasso coming in to bolster it. We've all got certain players (I sit behind a guy who slags off Mahrez FFS) who we don't like and Konchesky, Morgan and Nugent have taken stick for 3 years not just one. Don't get me wrong, he's made mistakes this season and October to November was shocking and I wanted at least two more players in January but it's the same every time a team has a bad run, everything is magnified and far more people come on here to criticise - rarely contructively just "f*** off Pearson" - than to congratulate. Burnley had a run of about 12 without a win at the start of the season and they stuck together. We just seem to enjoy pulling ourselves apart when the going gets tough, like we need to create more of a drama.
Guest Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 I think Dyche would have - a club, who in this context, are in a fairly similar situation to us (ie newly promoted). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree he would have survived that run but I'm not sure any others in this division would - I disagree that they are similar to us though as we have considerable stronger resources and therefore were expected to stay up and compete. I think we were around 2/1 to be relegated whereas Burnley were circa 4/7. Happy to be corrected on the odds.
Guy Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 You said "we should be comfortably above them", not that we should finish above them initially, though: To which claim I in return asked you to base your theory on some solid ground. So far, you've still not given a proper answer as to why you think we should be "comfortably above them" (QPR and Burnley). My Leeds supporting mate's overriding thought in a text back to me the other night was that he thought we'd fare better than all of the promoted teams this season and be cast iron certainties to at least finish 18th! Whether he was just basing this on the simple, collective logic from last season that we amassed 102 points I don't know but we sell 31,000 tickets each game on top of that and should really have no excuses for being below the other two promoted sides on those two stats alone re our pedigree last season and our wealth from gate receipts alone this. Maybe that doesn't count for much now though and perhaps Sky is our main income provider by virtue of us now being a Premier league team? All in all it's been a confusing season all around to date really but Pearson's team selections have confused me the most above all else - unless there's some degree of method in his madness that has yet to be unearthed?!
Swiss_tony Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 I'd suggest a few of the managers on the list should check out the hate-filled Pearson out threads (there's now about 11 different ones) before coming here. They'll get the same 12 games that O'Neill got before people are turning on them too. I actually thought that last season had finally brought the club together and that we'd all learnt a lesson about fighting amongst ourselves and calling for the manager's head. Our fans just don't learn. Turned on Bloomfield despite him giving us our most entertaining side, spat at Little (3 play off finals and a promotion) Turned on O'Neill after 12 games (took us up and gave us 4 years of silverware and success) Fell head over heels with joy when we took on Eriksson and Holloway and then went quiet when bothed fvcked our club up good and proper. We have ONE bad season with our most successful post-war manager and here you all are again. The posters demanding the most action have about 300 posts between them or haven't been on here for more than a year. Welcome back. I'm not resorting to abuse, you're beyond it but when we're sitting mid-table in the championship like Forest with our 5th manager in 2 years, I hope you all be just as vocal as you are now. which war, the iraqi war? best laugh i've had all week. thanks, cheered me up after the villa match.
Guest Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Selection bias - Hamer was to blame for Tottenham's free kick winner down here and in about 8 games he couldn't kick it straight once. There were as many people calling for a 42 year old to go straight in to replace him as for him to lkeep his place but granted I would have only had Schwarzer as cover, not as No.1 Albrighton is out of the side because of fitness - I'll quote his dad "He was number 3 at Villa for his fitness but he's not up to Leicester's standards for his stamina and isn't in their top 20 fittest so the manager doesn't think he can last a full 90. It's about opinions and Mark's not convinced him yet" Knockaert has taken plenty of stick on this forum and others for him leaving the full back exposed. When he has played he's pulled up no trees. Tactical naivety - Moan after moan on this forum about chopping and changing from game to game. On one of the few occasions where he keeps a system, he gets whinged at. Look at the game, we created far more playing 451 than 442. One tipped wide, one header hits the post. Inability to get on with people - Who cares? It's not about being popular. Stringer's line of questioning and admitted dislike of Pearson makes him look like the ****. He's actually taking pride in being ignored and seems to boast about it on the few occasions I've caught his sh!tty programmes. He speaks to most other journo's which suggests it's not Pearson who's at fault there. Behaviour - I'm sorry, those arguments are ridiculous. The guy behind him was shouting unbelievable abuse and deserved to get some back. He didn't choke McArthur and even the player admitted it was something out of nothing. People around the club such as Birchenall and Paul Gallagher have come out and said the media response was embarrassing and blown up out of all proportion. King Lineker didn't need to shit stir about the sacking and loves his own publicity. Yes he helped save the club but don't forget for many years he wanted f*** all to do with this club and again it served his own publicity purposes to chip in and help. His mocking support on MOTD is buttock-clenchingly embarrassing. And I cannot believce any fan of this club woud use a statement like "damaging the King Power brand" WHO GIVES A S**T about that apart from Executives? King Power is a foreign Duty Free company, we've far more important things to concern ourselves with than their reputation here which is pretty much zero anyway. No-one outside of Leicester or Thailand knows what King Power is anyway. Refusal To Shoulder Blame - name me one manager that takes the rap for a bad display. You will never hear Wenger, Mourinho, Van Gaal, Allardyce or whoever say "I didn't get the formation right today" and again, how often does Jose have a sulk with the Beeb/Sky? Ferguson didn't talk to them for 12 years. Denial about the squad - Very few people said the team that amassed over 100 points last season should be broken up and most were happy at Upson, Albrighton, Ulloa and Camiasso coming in to bolster it. We've all got certain players (I sit behind a guy who slags off Mahrez FFS) who we don't like and Konchesky, Morgan and Nugent have taken stick for 3 years not just one. Don't get me wrong, he's made mistakes this season and October to November was shocking and I wanted at least two more players in January but it's the same every time a team has a bad run, everything is magnified and far more people come on here to criticise - rarely contructively just "f*** off Pearson" - than to congratulate. Burnley had a run of about 12 without a win at the start of the season and they stuck together. We just seem to enjoy pulling ourselves apart when the going gets tough, like we need to create more of a drama. I wasn't screaming when Schwarzer came in but when he made soft errors at Man Utd and Arsenal I thought the penny might drop and he'd go back down the pecking order. I still can't believe the mistake he made at Villa. Hamer's distribution was poor but he can work on that. Thing is though with Albrighton he's often not even bothering to bring him off the bench. He played very well v Newcastle and Villa and was then shunned bizarrely when we played Stoke.. Tom Lawrence was even brought on rather than him. He was excellent when he came on v Spurs and Man Utd and it could be argued played large role in changing direction of those games. Now he's nowhere to be seen. Coinciding with his missus celebrating the news of Pearson's sacking on Twitter. Knockaert wasn't given a sniff first half of the season and I thought he acquitted himself well when he was included while others were off in Africa. Yes regarding the changes - continuity is often a positive but you do have to distinguish between a game against an in form world class side and a game against a struggling team. Many ways to skin a cat. You seriously believe a 5 man defence is the right way to go against Aston Villa? I dont even think it was against Arsenal despite the apparent improvement in display. Everyone has to get on with people to an extent if they are to be successful. I wont budge on the behaviour arguments - I would probably be more forgiving towards them if we had a few more points I will admit that but I still think he's been a c**t a lot this season. The "damaging the King Power brand" bit I personally dont give a **** about.. but I doubt the owners enjoyed it. Regards the blame issue - true most of the other managers shirk the blame and come up with excuses. I will give you that. I addressed the squad thing first time around.. He's had a lot of time to realise that certain players havent made the grade in the higher level and ample time with the windows to rectify it.
Guy Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 I somehow think some of the problem here is that because Pearson was brought back here by the present owners after only 18 months of departing, or less at the hands of Mandaric- and was offered big money to sort out the supposed in between 'mess' Sousa and Sven had created in the process (even though Sven wasn't given long enough really) in the wake of the all around bizarre nature of his original 2010 departure - that it now gives him a Wenger-esque 'unsackable' status. As much as I really liked what Pearson did for our cause first time around between 2008-2010, bringing him back was seemingly done on sentimental grounds from his first stint here it now seems. I'm not sure if it's "just me" but I am beginning to feel that way now. No other manager would have survived this long on our present dismal run in this day and age (regardless of what we did last season), unless there was something sinister behind the scenes going on!
MC Prussian Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 I somehow think some of the problem here is that because Pearson was brought back here by the present owners after only 18 months of departing, or less at the hands of Mandaric- and was offered big money to sort out the supposed in between 'mess' Sousa and Sven had created in the process (even though Sven wasn't given long enough really) in the wake of the all around bizarre nature of his original 2010 departure - that it now gives him a Wenger-esque 'unsackable' status. As much as I really liked what Pearson did for our cause first time around between 2008-2010, bringing him back was seemingly done on sentimental grounds from his first stint here it now seems. I'm not sure if it's "just me" but I am beginning to feel that way now. No other manager would have survived this long on our present dismal run in this day and age (regardless of what we did last season), unless there was something sinister behind the scenes going on! I think the last we need right now is some fans coming up with some far-fetched conspiracy theory. And comparing Pearson to Wenger - behave. Wenger has a lot more success to show for (few trophies, I know - but still).
Guest Posted 19 February 2015 Posted 19 February 2015 I somehow think some of the problem here is that because Pearson was brought back here by the present owners after only 18 months of departing, or less at the hands of Mandaric- and was offered big money to sort out the supposed in between 'mess' Sousa and Sven had created in the process (even though Sven wasn't given long enough really) in the wake of the all around bizarre nature of his original 2010 departure - that it now gives him a Wenger-esque 'unsackable' status. As much as I really liked what Pearson did for our cause first time around between 2008-2010, bringing him back was seemingly done on sentimental grounds from his first stint here it now seems. I'm not sure if it's "just me" but I am beginning to feel that way now. No other manager would have survived this long on our present dismal run in this day and age (regardless of what we did last season), unless there was something sinister behind the scenes going on! Definitely don't think he is unsackable. Think he will go at the end of the season now. Some will argue there is no point in sacking him then though.
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