Frank Burrows Appreciation Thread

[eaststandtom]

Now the mods can feel free to move this elsewhere, but to be honest I CBA to find an appropriate topic to place it.

I understand that Milan Mandaric is activley interviewing for the new manager. But why?

Taggart and Burrows, whilst only been in charge for two games, have bought a sense of belief amongst the fans and players. I understand its early days. I understand we need stability. Im not suggesting for one minuite that MM should offer the position to them, but why not give it a couple of weeks? Towards Christmas maybe?

I know time is of the essence. But We have had 2 solid performances in the last two games. See how we get on at Colchester on Saturday. If we come away with a win, or at very least a noble performance, then why is there the big rush to find a new gaffer?

Who's with me?! Anyone?....

No.

.

Keep them on by all means but, we need a new manager asap to get the ball rolling

[Lester LXXIV]

I really don't understand this proper manager thing, what exactly is a proper manager?

did Watford appoint a "proper manager" when they gave the job to Aidy Boothroyd and look where they are in the league on the other hand is Peter Reid a proper manager because he has managed clubs before?

it's not about being a proper manager it's about being the right person for the job at the right time whoever it may be

AMEN to that!!

[MPH]

Thought I'd resurrect this thread...not suggesting he should get the job or anything but he's doing a mint job so far and deserves some credit. I think if another manager came in he would be well worth hanging onto as a member of the coaching staff.

Well done Frank.

agreed entirely.

i wonder if the plan is to give jo royale the job as manager or Director of football.....

if so it leaves it open for an inexerpeiced manager. Burrows isnt an inexperienced coach at all, but he is as a manager.

I'd take that combination.

Yet i doubt that is MM's plan to do it that way...

[MPH]

I really don't understand this proper manager thing, what exactly is a proper manager?

did Watford appoint a "proper manager" when they gave the job to Aidy Boothroyd and look where they are in the league on the other hand is Peter Reid a proper manager because he has managed clubs before?

it's not about being a proper manager it's about being the right person for the job at the right time whoever it may be

[MPH]

No.

.

Keep them on by all means but, we need a new manager asap to get the ball rolling

a win against barnsley and what has to be one of the most heroic performances by city in recent years ISNT getting the ball rolling?

of course we are not Man City and it wasnt the league, but still, great performance by the lads.

[eaststandtom]

a win against barnsley and what has to be one of the most heroic performances by city in recent years ISNT getting the ball rolling?

of course we are not Man City and it wasnt the league, but still, great performance by the lads.

yeah, good performance.

the new manager needs to get the ball rolling in terms of having his influence over the side.

[Tabou]

yeah, good performance.

the new manager needs to get the ball rolling in terms of having his influence over the side.

Gerry and Frank have got influence over the side. Hence the win over Barnsley and valiant effrt against Chelski. What elese do you want? Were on the right track it appears. So why not stick with them, see if we get a bit of a run going?

[davieG]

He's not exactly inexperienced as a manager and no way is he in the same league as Kelly was.

Ambitious as a manager, Burrows left Swindon to be appointed Assistant Manager to Jimmy Dickinson at Portsmouth F.C.. When Dickinson resigned in 1979 Burrows replaced him. Burrows enjoyed success at Portsmouth as a manager, and after leaving the club in 1982 he spent time as assistant manager at Sunderland F.C., before being appointed manager at Cardiff City F.C. in May 1986. Burrows arrived to a Cardiff side demoralized by two successive relegations under former manager Alan Durban that had left the club in the bottom rung of the Football League.

Burrows brought in his own coaching staff, including former City manager Jimmy Goodfellow, Bobby Smith and Gavin Tait, and set to work revitalising a side that had dropped the new depths.

Burrows managed to lead City to promotion in the 1987/88 season, but the side would struggle in the old Third Division and following

disagreements with the Board of Directors, Burrows resigned in August 1989. Later that year, he would return to Portsmouth as assistant manager to John Gregory, before being appointed manager in 1990. However, he left the following year after a string of poor performances. Burrows would then arrive at Swansea City F.C. in March 1991, and would enjoy a productive four-year spell as manager of the Swans. However, a falling out with the board would lead to Burrows departure in July 1995, being succeeded in the position by his assistant, Bobby Smith.

He was then on the coaching staff at West Ham United F.C., working under manager Harry Redknapp before returning to Cardiff City as manager in February 1998, succeeding Kenny Hibbitt in the manager's position. Under Burrows, Cardiff won promotion to the

old Division Two in the 1998/99 season, but the team found themselves struggling to stay out of the relegation zone, and Burrows resigned in

February 2000, being succeeded by his assistant Billy Ayre.

From 2000 until 2004, Burrows was assistant manager to Gary Megson at West Bromwich Albion and helped them win promotion to the Premiership twice. In 2001 Burrows was diagnosed with cancer of the kidney, and spent several weeks away from The Hawthorns in order to recover from major surgery.[1] In 2002 he signed a new three-year deal with the Baggies.[2]

Burrows took charge of two games as caretaker-manager following Megson's departure in November 2004, but left the Hawthorns once Bryan Robson arrived, despite being offered a role in the new setup.[3]

He was then given an opportunity to resurrect his partnership with Gary Megson, when he was offered the job of first team coach at Nottingham Forest, but he turned the post down, citing family reasons.[4] He did join up with Megson again two years later though, taking up a role in the Leicester City coaching setup.[5]

The partnership was not to last long, however, as after just 41 days in the job Megson resigned, leaving Burrows as caretaker manager.

[STUHILL]

I think Burrows and Taggart are doing a good job which is very useful for MM because he can take a bit more time getting the right man in. I don't think however we should be considering Burrows as full-time manager. I think although he seems different to Kelly, we are still seeing the same effect that Kelly had when he took over and even though we may win a few, I still think in the long-term, we should be looking for another manager i.e Jewell if at all possible. Would like Burrows to maybe stay on if he wanted because he seems a real character and has a wealth of coaching experience. I think taggart definately will stay on with some kind if role, hopefully Burrows too.

[FNQ]

Give him the damn job now!

[MPH]

He's not exactly inexperienced as a manager and no way is he in the same league as Kelly was.

Ambitious as a manager, Burrows left Swindon to be appointed Assistant Manager to Jimmy Dickinson at Portsmouth F.C.. When Dickinson resigned in 1979 Burrows replaced him. Burrows enjoyed success at Portsmouth as a manager, and after leaving the club in 1982 he spent time as assistant manager at Sunderland F.C., before being appointed manager at Cardiff City F.C. in May 1986. Burrows arrived to a Cardiff side demoralized by two successive relegations under former manager Alan Durban that had left the club in the bottom rung of the Football League.

Burrows brought in his own coaching staff, including former City manager Jimmy Goodfellow, Bobby Smith and Gavin Tait, and set to work revitalising a side that had dropped the new depths.

Burrows managed to lead City to promotion in the 1987/88 season, but the side would struggle in the old Third Division and following

disagreements with the Board of Directors, Burrows resigned in August 1989. Later that year, he would return to Portsmouth as assistant manager to John Gregory, before being appointed manager in 1990. However, he left the following year after a string of poor performances. Burrows would then arrive at Swansea City F.C. in March 1991, and would enjoy a productive four-year spell as manager of the Swans. However, a falling out with the board would lead to Burrows departure in July 1995, being succeeded in the position by his assistant, Bobby Smith.

He was then on the coaching staff at West Ham United F.C., working under manager Harry Redknapp before returning to Cardiff City as manager in February 1998, succeeding Kenny Hibbitt in the manager's position. Under Burrows, Cardiff won promotion to the

old Division Two in the 1998/99 season, but the team found themselves struggling to stay out of the relegation zone, and Burrows resigned in

February 2000, being succeeded by his assistant Billy Ayre.

From 2000 until 2004, Burrows was assistant manager to Gary Megson at West Bromwich Albion and helped them win promotion to the Premiership twice. In 2001 Burrows was diagnosed with cancer of the kidney, and spent several weeks away from The Hawthorns in order to recover from major surgery.[1] In 2002 he signed a new three-year deal with the Baggies.[2]

Burrows took charge of two games as caretaker-manager following Megson's departure in November 2004, but left the Hawthorns once Bryan Robson arrived, despite being offered a role in the new setup.[3]

He was then given an opportunity to resurrect his partnership with Gary Megson, when he was offered the job of first team coach at Nottingham Forest, but he turned the post down, citing family reasons.[4] He did join up with Megson again two years later though, taking up a role in the Leicester City coaching setup.[5]

The partnership was not to last long, however, as after just 41 days in the job Megson resigned, leaving Burrows as caretaker manager.

fantastic. give him the job then!

[davieG]

fantastic. give him the job then!

not bloody likely

[Bluefoxtim]

Don't want to put a dampner on things...but I really hope we continue this into saturday's match.

How many times have we put in a great performance, then cries of "turning point of our season" etc, then the next game is back to the useless rubbish....

I really hope that this time it's different!

[City Fan]

Oh FFS, yes lets give Burrows the job because we almost beat Chelsea. Its in a cup competition and so means feck all! We have recently beat Charlton and Tottenham under Levein, doesn't make him a good manager. We nearly beat Villa and Fulham with Rob Kelly, doesnt make him a good manager. We beat Villa under Megson, doesnt make him a good manager. Get my drift? Good.

We nearly beat Chelsea, whoopy do. Most teams do well when a manager has left - like we did when Kelly took over as caretaker - but it soon goes tits up not long after that. Lets get a proper manager in.

[BigGibbo]

Oh FFS, yes lets give Burrows the job because we almost beat Chelsea. Its in a cup competition and so means feck all! We have recently beat Charlton and Tottenham under Levein, doesn't make him a good manager. We nearly beat Villa and Fulham with Rob Kelly, doesnt make him a good manager. We beat Villa under Megson, doesnt make him a good manager. Get my drift? Good.

We nearly beat Chelsea, whoopy do. Most teams do well when a manager has left - like we did when Kelly took over as caretaker - but it soon goes tits up not long after that. Lets get a proper manager in.

It could be worse than Burrows as manager!

He was the key behind Megsons West brom success we've seen how he did without him at Forest, & if he does prevail at Bolton which im doubtful of its because they already have excellent staff in place.

It wouldn't be in my top 4 or 5 choices but it wouldn't upset me if it was to be a Burrows & taggart partnership & I would still have confidence in them

[Blue Bob]

Please remember we were terrible under Megson - but who was his two coaches - Burrows and Taggart. I appreciate that Megson would have had the last word but they were still part of the problem.

Burrows has not set the world on fire in the past 40 years so why do you think he will do so now???

I think a new manager has to be the way forward.

[BigGibbo]

Please remember we were terrible under Megson - but who was his two coaches - Burrows and Taggart. I appreciate that Megson would have had the last word but they were still part of the problem.

Burrows has not set the world on fire in the past 40 years so why do you think he will do so now???

I think a new manager has to be the way forward.

I don't neccesarily think that he will be awesome i don't know no one does!

No one manager can guarantee us success not even if we get Jewell he could end up not re-capturing his Wigan form & failing here so i just think if we fail in bids for the likes of Jewell, Ince & Grayson then Burrows wouldn't be an unsuitable manager to be given a chance to do the job full time

[Rocky Dennis]

Now the mods can feel free to move this elsewhere, but to be honest I CBA to find an appropriate topic to place it.

I understand that Milan Mandaric is activley interviewing for the new manager. But why?

Taggart and Burrows, whilst only been in charge for two games, have bought a sense of belief amongst the fans and players. I understand its early days. I understand we need stability. Im not suggesting for one minuite that MM should offer the position to them, but why not give it a couple of weeks? Towards Christmas maybe?

I know time is of the essence. But We have had 2 solid performances in the last two games. See how we get on at Colchester on Saturday. If we come away with a win, or at very least a noble performance, then why is there the big rush to find a new gaffer?

Who's with me?! Anyone?....

Yeah i agree.

I think they're doing a good job, the players have definately responded to them, when ive seen him interviewed on tv he does seem to talk some sense!

[Finnegan]

I think I made my views on this perfectly clear in the other thread: Don't be fooking retarded.

Let's stop being whimsical and appointing managers because we like them that week. Let's shut up, grow up and get in a manager that can do a job long term. I'm not overwhelmed by the thought of McCarthy or Jewel but they're both sensible choices. "Omg get Frank Burrows is cos we scored three against Chelsea and beat Barnsley at home!" is stupid. Very stupid. Very, very stupid.

Caretaker managers often enjoy a short honeymoon period, and I would have thought as Leicester fans we were used to this by now. Learn. From. Your. Mistakes.

[Simi]

Not down this road again.

Never ever again.

[Blue Bob]

I don't neccesarily think that he will be awesome i don't know no one does!

No one manager can guarantee us success not even if we get Jewell he could end up not re-capturing his Wigan form & failing here so i just think if we fail in bids for the likes of Jewell, Ince & Grayson then Burrows wouldn't be an unsuitable manager to be given a chance to do the job full time

True success is never guaranteed, but Jewell has an excellent track record. Ince and Grayson are up and coming managers who at the moment are doing very well. Burrows is OK but doesnt fill me with confidence that he can inspire the club to promotion nor that he could attract quality player to the club.

Its is a tough decision and generally guaranteed that it will not work unless your name is Alex Ferguson or Arsene Wenger even Jose got the sack so what hope do we have!!!!

[Blue Bob]

I think I made my views on this perfectly clear in the other thread: Don't be fooking retarded.

Let's stop being whimsical and appointing managers because we like them that week. Let's shut up, grow up and get in a manager that can do a job long term. I'm not overwhelmed by the thought of McCarthy or Jewel but they're both sensible choices. "Omg get Frank Burrows is cos we scored three against Chelsea and beat Barnsley at home!" is stupid. Very stupid. Very, very stupid.

Caretaker managers often enjoy a short honeymoon period, and I would have thought as Leicester fans we were used to this by now. Learn. From. Your. Mistakes.

I agree.

The team are doing well at the moment because they can explore new ways of playing that they were not allowed to under Megson - like going into the oppositions half!!! Or shooting.

It didnt work so change it - if burrows and Taggart are so good them keep them on to support the new manager but we need someone new at the top.

[lookwhaticando]

Not down this road again.

Never ever again.

Different kettle of fish, surely?

It is all a little airy fairy, though... wanting the new man based on two games.

[Webbo]

Can't see, or want Burrows getting the job permanantly but he seems a safe pair of hands and he could keep the job for a few weeks yet.

[Raikkonen]

burrows and taggart in