usually takes me about 12 darts to get a 180. not sure it counts honestly im just having a lot of fun with it, trying out different set ups with the darts themselves, trying to find a rythem you know. its fun with the kids too and the wife used to play for a team so we are having some fun games. its a really cheap hobby too, before i got my own darts i was throwing the wifes 30g ones, i bought some 26g from harrows which are fine, not sure i like the grip but im sticking with them for a while, not sure to try even lower or go higher again. as far as watching it goes, its on a lot more than i thought, skipped a few tournaments on tv so i dont get burned out watching them all. soon as i did littler started winning everything again so i guess i should watch the next one and give bunting a chance at something