cityfanlee23

At this point I'd snap your hand off to sign Brownhill.

Fantastic strike.

Honestly, just head straight for the spirits

We said this after the opening game and yet it’s still happening, and it will happen next match, and the match after. You can see a mile away that he’s going to be another stubborn manager that refuses to fix really basic issues in the system. He can have all the slack in the world when he stops making these decisions.

It is, but he’s actively picking players that cause problems to his system. So far he’s made the same mistake every game that has left us open at the back, he triggers a press that pushes our entire team onto one side of the pitch, leaving a massive gaping hole on one side often Luke Thomas and Vestergaard. One simple diagonal ball across and we are opened up with ease. He’s made this same mistake in every game so far, and the wild thing is, this isn’t some new flaw in the system that has been exposed, it’s the exact reason Jesse Marsch’ Leeds team were opened up so easily, we have videos from 2 years ago on YouTube explaining this flaw, and Marti is making the same mistake by picking 2 defenders in Luke Thomas and Vestergaard who expose that. Then picks Soumare and Skipp every match. Nobody is forcing him to make these very basic mistakes that me and other armchair fans can spot a mile away. He can’t be blamed for what he inherited but he absolutely should be criticised for the poor decisions he’s repeatedly making so early on.

Cash in if he doesn’t want to be here. Another player with a big ceiling but often fell massively short when we needed him last season. Will probably thrive at a well run club like palace so best of luck to him.

Justin is better than Thomas, and Choudhury has been a better player so far than Thomas also so he can easily cover RB. Nobody is forcing him to play Vestergaard who is completely caught out on the counter pretty much every single time, atleast under Enzo we controlled the ball slowly which led to less chances of being hit on the break, Marti-Ball is a far more offensive system so we cannot be making these mistakes of playing Vestergaard. Faes or Nelson should be there, regardless of how badly Nelson played he is the priority going forward. The issue here is I'm concerned your initial comment will come true in a literal sense, that nothing will change unless Marti gets his players in, that includes Marti playing this system. If he continues to try to play LT/JV as a left side of our defence we are going to finish mid table.

Agree he needs to bring players in, but nobody is forcing him to play Vestergaard, and Thomas is not a very strong left sided partner for him if we are going to play this brand of football. He won't have many chances with the fans if he continues to play this style and has Vestergaard in no mans land 5x per match. Early days.

Marti needs time but if our transfer budget was £10m, I’d rather spend £7m and keep £3m aside… you know… just incase.

Fans video came in showing the players walking over to the fans to clap them, Winks appears to have completely ignored the fans and walked straight down the tunnel (on the other side of the ground) on his own. Not sure if he was near the away end and maybe went over first before the video starts, but if he's just walked straight down the tunnel alone we probably need Marti to be having a proper discussion with the player, doesn't look good at all.

That's not the same as being better now though. If he plays how he did today for the rest of the season then I'd say he's better, right now he's raw and needs to develop.

No excuses for taking so long to get into the game, and no excuses for not doing the basics. Marti should get time obviously, but we've been awful for 50+ minutes of all 3 games so far.

He's showing massive promise but he's also VERY green. He tends to try to dribble round 5 players rather than run into the massive space to the other side, case in point when he lost the ball by running into a pocket of defenders instead of running to the touchline. We then got hit on the counter and conceded (multiple players faults) Monga is not better than Fatawu yet.

Absolutely no excuses today. Not good enough and that includes Marti. No excuse for being so poor for so long, no excuses for not doing the basics.

He's not bigger than the club yet. He needs to run into space instead of trying to take 5 players on. He's electric but he needs to work on decision making.

There is a name on the free transfer list that is a proven leader in Josh Brownhill At 29 he's not the ideal signing and doesn't have any sell-on value, but he is a proven leader as Burnley captain. Edit: Initially I also said Victor Lindelof as he was captain of both United and Sweden, I knew he had a few injuries last season, but I didn't realise it was 21 games missed through 3 seperate injuries, I thought he was just overlooked. 22 games missed in 23/24 too. Probably a miss.

I agree regarding having a clean slate completely, I don't care about what happened before, as it stands I believe we need him if we are going to have a chance of going up.

Given how Soumare and Skipp have started the season, i'd be tempted to play Ricardo as a CM alongside winks and not as an inverted full back.

Completely disagree with the abuse comments, but it wasn't just "one of our games" it was relegation day and he had been left out of the squad, I did read at the time though that the "protocol" at Leicester is that players are expected to attend the game even when left out of the squad, whether that's true or not i'm not sure. But in a relegation match you'd assume he would be there to support. The abuse he got was way too far though, but let's not pretend that he didn't know exactly what he was doing.

Right now you're completely right, if he left today and we ended up with Skipp and Soumare as the 2 I don't think we will go up, with Winks in the squad I think we can. 90k a week is a lot of money though.

Sounds like he can't win. I hope he doesnt sign for Celtic then, poor guy won't even need to switch the engine off. Going forward though, I would like to see the club mandate that players live locally, it just makes sense.

Right but this isn't a discussion about what Harry Winks wife wants, it's a discussion about whether he didn't want to stay overnight because he wanted to be with his newborn and wife, of which the numbers never added up, because he's probably spending the same time travelling as he would be if he was overnight at the club. If he lived 1 hour away then I'd fully understand, but he doesn't it's a 4 hour round trip allegedly, 5 days a week. Again I'm not arguing that Ruud was right to treat him the way he did I thought both handled the situation poorly, I'm just saying this argument that he refused to stay because of time away just doesn't make any sense. I feel sorry for Winks if your theory is true, massively limits the amount of clubs he can sign for.

He wants to be at home, but chooses to drive 4 hours per day.... I also don't like the hate and bitterness at all especially when it's in the form of personal abuse, I just think it's best for the club that if we had say £7m to replace him we should.

This never made any sense though. If time away from the family was the reason he refused to stay overnight at the club, why was he purposely choosing to spend so many hours driving? If spending time with the family was priority, you'd buy a house 10 minutes from Seagrave. But saying 'I refuse to spend an extra 12-14 hours at Seagrave I have a young child' whilst simultaneously choosing to spend somewhere around that amount of time driving every week, the maths were not mathing and it came across as an easy excuse. Move to Leicestershire, live 10 minutes away, problem solved.