cityfanlee23

Completely disagree with the abuse comments, but it wasn't just "one of our games" it was relegation day and he had been left out of the squad, I did read at the time though that the "protocol" at Leicester is that players are expected to attend the game even when left out of the squad, whether that's true or not i'm not sure. But in a relegation match you'd assume he would be there to support. The abuse he got was way too far though, but let's not pretend that he didn't know exactly what he was doing.

Right now you're completely right, if he left today and we ended up with Skipp and Soumare as the 2 I don't think we will go up, with Winks in the squad I think we can. 90k a week is a lot of money though.

Sounds like he can't win. I hope he doesnt sign for Celtic then, poor guy won't even need to switch the engine off. Going forward though, I would like to see the club mandate that players live locally, it just makes sense.

Right but this isn't a discussion about what Harry Winks wife wants, it's a discussion about whether he didn't want to stay overnight because he wanted to be with his newborn and wife, of which the numbers never added up, because he's probably spending the same time travelling as he would be if he was overnight at the club. If he lived 1 hour away then I'd fully understand, but he doesn't it's a 4 hour round trip allegedly, 5 days a week. Again I'm not arguing that Ruud was right to treat him the way he did I thought both handled the situation poorly, I'm just saying this argument that he refused to stay because of time away just doesn't make any sense. I feel sorry for Winks if your theory is true, massively limits the amount of clubs he can sign for.

He wants to be at home, but chooses to drive 4 hours per day.... I also don't like the hate and bitterness at all especially when it's in the form of personal abuse, I just think it's best for the club that if we had say £7m to replace him we should.

This never made any sense though. If time away from the family was the reason he refused to stay overnight at the club, why was he purposely choosing to spend so many hours driving? If spending time with the family was priority, you'd buy a house 10 minutes from Seagrave. But saying 'I refuse to spend an extra 12-14 hours at Seagrave I have a young child' whilst simultaneously choosing to spend somewhere around that amount of time driving every week, the maths were not mathing and it came across as an easy excuse. Move to Leicestershire, live 10 minutes away, problem solved.

Should I open the Society doors again?

It's very early days, but our complete lack of synergy is concerning; having a new manager and a new system is not an excuse for failing to do the basics. We need names out of the door and fresh faces in. Lethargic performance all round. Very concerned by Marti picking Soumare and Winks as a pair again.

Wow, so many nostalgic memories. Rest in peace.

I thought the reaction was completely warranted, we can all hate Faes as a footballer, and you can question his attitude, but booing him as he came on doesn't help the atmosphere, doesn't help the team, doesn't help the player. So his reaction to scoring was fair game in my opinion. Fans need to be able to take it when giving it, Faes gave us 3 points yesterday. However, for the rest of the season it was a really stupid reaction, I would imagine that Marti might second guess bringing him on if it's going to make the place that toxic. I can only hope now that Faes looks at that reaction from the fans and forces his way out.

I wish someone would sneak into Top's office and place a live counter on his desk that shows him second by second the amount of money we are paying players like BCDR who aren't anywhere to be seen. I want him to sweat every second of the day watching that counter tick up and up seeing how much money he is wasting by allowing the club to deviate from the blueprint that delivered us a decade of growth and success.

Also special shoutout to "the_vinyl_frontier" - We couldn't have done it without you

Really proud of both sets of fans today. Wednesday have been my "2nd club" for about 15 years since meeting my owls mate and their fans have always been top class. I was also really proud to be a Leicester fan today, I was really hoping our fans would get behind them and it surprised my how much solidarity our fans gave. I saw Wednesday fans outside the ground waiting and Leicester fans were applauding them as they walked past, and the ovation when they entered the ground was heart-warming to see. This great club is being decimated by a scumbag owner and the fate of the club rests in the coming weeks. Had a look on Owlstalk that I've been lurking on for a long time, and it was really nice to see so many of their fans acknowledging the solidarity we showed, ultimately we all love our clubs and love this sport and match day rivalries sometimes need to be put aside. Vestergaard was also calling multiple players to do the walk around the pitch clapping the fans and they made the point to also stop at the Wednesday end, clap their fans and shake hands with the Wednesday players at the away end which was really classy from the players involved and seemingly Vestergaard who was the one who looked to be "organising" it? Link here to pages 25+ which was the moment where the fans entered the stands to an ovation. Leicester- V - Wednesday - Page 25 - Sheffield Wednesday Matchday - Owlstalk | Sheffield Wednesday News for SWFC fans Well done Leicester fans, and massive well done SWFC fans.

He posted it during the match if I remember rightly, AFAIK he was told he wouldn’t be included in the match day squad so decided to go for a beer garden day rather than be at the ground with his teammates regardless of whether he was playing, it’s club protocol to be at the game. edit: photo was posted before the game.

You’re right, it only pains me in the sense of hating his attitude last season such as posting photos in beer gardens when we were getting relegated etc. New page and all that I guess

As much as it pains me to say it, Winks has to start.

Not a great performance in general. Winks absolutely changed the game and was MOTM, but make no mistake, this is a weak Sheffield Wednesday side who had 3 injuries, no pre season, a chaotic environment and a red card. We dominated the game because Wednesday sat back, we were poor whenever they pressed so we have a long way to go. Good start and 3 points is 3 points. If we get a 25m bid for Bilal I’d take it. He was nullified really easily with a compact midfield, would rather take that money and go out and buy a decent CM to partner Winks, a striker and then buy Pierce Charles.

You don’t need to forgive someone to not abuse them as they come onto the pitch.

Fans booed him onto the pitch. They FULLY deserve that celebration.

If teams sit back Bilal won’t get a sniff this season, would be nice to keep him but £25m and we have to say goodbye. Overrated by us, good ceiling but nowhere near the ceiling Leicester fans think he has.

He’s ****ing awful isn’t he, the copium got me

Rohl in 👀

With his lost property plimsolls on

Wednesday have actually kept on to more players than I thought they had, their team can cause problems if we start slowly. Expecting a comfortable result for the most part but they can't be written off for a snatch and grab if we don't have our shooting boots on.

That also wouldn't surprise me at all, it's just a gut feeling anyway nothing tangible to base it on other than Marti managing to take those "moments" he has and make them more consistent