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I wrote down loads of notes to cobble together a sort of tactical analysis of Rohl's system over the past 18 months for if he signs and the sort of things he has picked up from Red Bull, haven't bothered yet as I'm probably not eloquent enough to create a proper analysis and the long, dead silence from the club is concerning.

Given Enzo has spent over £400m since arriving at Chelsea and still wants more money to spend, and the fact he took over a massively bloated team anyway, we should probably be looking to take some of their academy/reserve players on loan with options to buy, because they won't be getting any game time under Maresca.

Jesus Christ Enzo. How much money do you actually need? He arrived at a team brimming with talent, one of the biggest squads in world football and has managed to spend £400m STILL wants more signings. Nelson will be a £30m defender next season, Chelsea can come back in for him then.

Whoa whoa whoa don't be lumbering me with the blame, this is a fan effort, if he's bad we all take collective responsibility

They do get a lot wrong, but if they do go and sign Rohl they should be given credit on this, the rumours were they offered it to Martin and then withdrew once they saw the backlash, and imo I genuinely believe that if Rohl signs it’s because of a fan led drive to make it happen. I don’t think the club would have been lining up Rohl as the main candidate given their obsession over pep ball. If my opinion is right, the club have finally listened to fans. It doesn’t absolve them of the radio silence since relegation and the mistakes that took us there, but it atleast shows us we can have an impact if we all pull in the same direction.

He passed that test to buy his stake in Crystal Palace. Not sure if it’s sarcasm or not🤣

Rumours are it could be John Textor, the guy who took Lyons perilous financial position in 2022 and overall oversaw a further decline in the clubs financial health despite increasing revenues, we are talking about SWFC therefore this is pretty much nailed on to be the buyer

Yep, that's sort of how I expected it to be, i'd heard that some staff and some players had been paid wages in June for their may payments, so it only made sense that it was those who had sellable value getting paid, including Rohl.

Yep, most of the rumours from media seem to be based on hype and a pretty obvious link that Rohl wants to leave and we need a manager. LCFC have a tight wrap on most things these days.

Right, but my original comment referred to a German club "pulling the trigger", which could happen at any club at any moment, I was more just referencing the fact that we are holding out for a cheaper deal which is understandable given the situation we are in, but it would also be very us if us holding out from £5m, to 2.5m, to now £1m, and then holding out for £500k, then hoping he can get out for £0, only for a German club to have a fall out and sack their manager and gamble on Rohl, not really sure what we are debating here, just a hypothetical scenario that would sum this club up at the moment. We will hold out to save £500k and end up having to spend more than that on a Rohl alternative.

Doesn’t need to be Bundesliga though it was just an example, he’s clearly a manager with a higher ceiling than us and there could easily be a fall out at a bigger club behind the scenes and they decide to take a gamble, it would be very Leicester city to lose out last minute because we were delaying until the final moments. We’ve spent years throwing money at anything that looked at us and now we are in a mess and desperately need to make a decision to gain some stability and the club are haggling over a torn fiver. I get it though, I suppose any time is better than never to start looking after the pennies, but I’d rather we just got this over the line and sacrifice a few hundred thousand from the transfer budget.

I don’t think that rumour is true, but it would be the most Leicester city thing ever to haggle over £1m only for a big German club to pull the trigger and get in contact with Rohl, and we then end up going for Dyche and have to pay him higher wages that end up costing us more than the £1m we were haggling over. Just get him through the door. Rohl is worth far more to this damn club than the difference between buying a £5m player and a £6m player. If they are indeed waiting for him to somehow exit even cheaper they better have a pretty concrete assurance that he wants to come here.

Absolutely awful, thoughts with his family, recently married and 3 young children. Fantastic player that you’d love to have in any team, played us off the pitch a couple of times.

An interesting player that might be decent on loan is Fisnik Asllani Fisnik Asllani — 22, Hoffenheim (Stats Fisnik Asllani - stats, career and market value) Strengths: Scored 19 goals and made 8 assists last season at Elversberg (in Bundesliga 2). 22 years old and can use both feet well. Plays aggressively up front and isn’t afraid to defend or get physical. Good defensive work: made 30 blocks, recovered the ball 73 times, and won possession in the final 3rd 23 times last season. Prefers to play on the last defender or arrive late in the box to score. Weaknesses: Not great at dribbling; often loses the ball when he holds it too long. More of a direct, physical striker (“crash and bash”) rather than a fancy dribbler. Good defensive work but hard to analyse whether that would work in a high pressing team that Rohl may want to develop.

I don't know the source he's referring to, but I did see on a Wednesday podcast earlier today that Rohl did not return to the clubs first day back which was on Thursday. I think it was within the first 10 minutes or so? don't have a timestamp but it was one of the first things mentioned when the topic of Rohl comes up. Also if people are interested in other teams, this is a decent podcast that I've been watching for a while now.

We've said this for 18 managers but I still believe, ****ing Daka man

Have you got space for 1 more?

Sounds like a contingency plan if Andrews doesn't work out early on. Can't see him becoming a #2 again, I think Brentford are well run to the point even if Andrews plans don't immediately click they will likely still be picking up enough results to be comfortable, so can't see him being sacked quickly

Ironically I sound like I'm from Sheffield when I try to pronounce his name properly

I mean, Ralf built the Red Bull network from the ground up, he has directly mentored/coached Julian Nagelsmann, Marco Rose, Ralph Hassenhuttl, Domenico Tedesco and others, he has been publicly praised as being one of the most influential people on the transition of German football, and has directly influenced the style of play adopted by Thomas Tuchel, Jurgen Klopp. Pep Guardiola has on multiple occasions publicly praised Rangnicks influence on football, Dietrich Mateschitz who brought Ralf into the RB network said he didn't just bring them success, he brought them an entire identity, and they still follow it to this day. Some of the best players in the world have come through the network that was defined by Rangnick like Haaland, Upamecano, Musiala, Laimer, Sadio Mane. I know RR gets a hard time because of his stint at United, but he's one of the most influential football minds in modern history. In fact, if King Power had any sense we would be paying him in an advisory role or to be DOF. Even if he cost 10m a year he's worth every penny.

I'm emigrating, you'll never see me again

There are definitely question marks, I've said on this thread that Rohls behaviour in the last couple of months has been unacceptable, and does offer concern given how poorly we are run at times, so whether he would get lied to and then fed up and start acting the same way here is a gamble for sure, Wednesday have been awful since mid January, but given what has come out since January where Chansiri was telling fans if they wanted him to sell, he would, telling fans he's not going to repay the loans and the fans need to crowdfund the money and take responsibility if they want him out so much, his admission at the end of the January window that he had not even spoken to DR about signings, then the failure to make wage payments, the year on year delayed tax payments and threat of sanction etc, I think there is a fair case to understand why the form has collapsed, but that is just correlation at this point. It could just be that Rohl was getting it wrong, but we will have to wait and see. His behaviour recently did concern me for sure, I can see a scenario where he is being lied to by us and he ends up on another escape mission, but I'd like to think the first period of his stint gives him some credit in the bank, as we are nowhere near the circus that SWFC are.

Yep, best mate is a lifelong owl, so we have almost adopted eachothers teams as our "2nd team" and this is why I've been completely insufferable for about 4 months on here and why I think he's one of the most exciting young managers in Europe. He's very much in the school of heavy metal German style football, you can see from his Wednesday team that he is atleast attempting to bring some of the Red Bull philosophy to them that he learned under Ralf Rangnick, Hansi Flick, and Hassenhuttl, albeit with poorer players. The strongest players in our team would benefit from that system.

Little bit deeper on the comment I made earlier, one of the big selling points for Rohl imo is the fact that his style of play does require certain types of players, and generally speaking when you look at the players we have, the players the fans most want out of the club don't suit his style, and the players that we all want to stay are the ones that would most Benefit from Rohl's philosophy. Players that fit Rohl's philosophy: - Pereira, Technically skilled on the ball, adept in attack and defence but is a natural player for the Inverted full back Role that DR likes to often use. - Fatawu, unpredictable fast attacking winger, perfectly fits the Gassama role and can wide press and counter attack - Mavididi, Rohl wingers are drilled in taking on their man and pressing, Mavididi is at his best when taking players on but has been getting that coached out of him since arriving, Rohl would reverse that trend. - Bilal, Progressive passing and can adapt positionally which is ideal in a three man midfield or transitioning onto the wing, would play the role Josh Windass played as a central goal creator/support striker - Monga, was a very strong pressing player for us and is not afraid to take players on (would need to track back a lot) - Nelson, He's a very composed defender on the ball and he's mobile - Okoli, Also mobile and athletic which Rohl demands from his defenders. - Vestergaard (let's face it, we aren't getting rid of him just yet) offers progressive passing which would suit him but would be required to play alongside a faster CB - Winks (Also likely to move him on due to wage constraints) Rohl would very likely deploy Winks as a Barry Bannan style player, Bannan has been pivotal for Wednesday for years but under Rohl he improved his all-round game massively, tempo controller.