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Well maybe both things are true? I just know that he's actually quite introverted (despite the hype he's probably had his whole life), so he's much more in the background than somebody who's going around displaying a bad attitude

When it comes to whether they wanted to manage his minutes, yes I am, but I'm not speculating when I say he's badly managed though. Rowett's theory was proven wrong time and time again so he should have deviated from it. Mavididi was a disgrace and Fatawu had even lost his game winning capabilities, yet Monga was sat on the bench game after game, with no other wide player available. That's just bad management. Needs must and all that. Think I mentioned a few posts back about managing younger players but just think the context is different here; he was meant to be a key member of the squad this year and has barely played minutes wise.

Interesting because I have it on good authority that this is not the case at all

They haven't tried to 'manage' him at all. Mavididi has been absolutely pathetic yet he's undroppable and Monga has barely featured, particularly in the back end of the season. That's not good management of a young player. That's simply hindering his growth and the team

On face value, I totally understand the disinterested/lazy comments but when you actually look a bit deeper, it's pretty clear to see that part of that is because he's known for being very shy/introverted (which holds back his game) and shows in his body language with a very languid running style, plus the fact that his tactical part of the game is not there yet and he switches off a lot. But on the actual performances, he's barely had a chance and whenever he gets the ball he's doubled up on, or gets absolute hospital passes from his teammates. I know it's not good to chuck in a 16 year old and play them for 90 mins 40 times a season, but when you barely get a sniff and the guy in front of you delivers the worst attacking season you can imagine, it's hardly going to boost your confidence/give you a chance to shine. Lots to work on and whether he'll be quick enough is fair, but the strength point that's been made is wide of the mark given he looked great with his back to play in the PL, and clearly still has the ability to create something out of nothing.

Took a long time for autocorrect to stop calling Rudkin that. Sacrilege.

Sums up our fans and their backing of academy prospects. Would prefer to clap Harry Winks then get a 16 year old some slack.

Na, he can't even do those anymore

Good to see they've been so quick with a retained list. Not like lots of clubs did it the day after their last game...

As I said above, it's not just about his goal contributions though. If he had those numbers but you were watching him beat lots of players, create chances, free up space for teammates because he's doubled up on etc, then you could still say he's been good. Unfortunately that side of him game has been significantly worse than his goal contributions output.

Hope he doesn't come back

The rest of what you said is fair but this is absolute fantasy. He cares about himself and his image/ego only. His actions or not that of a man who cares for this football club. And at least Chansiri was openly crooked. Top hasn't even got the minerals to do that.

Sending thoughts and prayers at this difficult time

Don't think he's even that close. That's how shocking the recruitment has been

Yeah, not like there weren't a bunch of other negative comments or people being relieved it was at least only a 2 year deal before that post...

Dreadful shot from Hill. Averages aren't everything but you look at the batting lineup and it's pretty poor in that regard. Not really a 'prize' wicket for opposition teams to get

Me too, but I'm just reinforcing the fact he was actually a very good defender as well which is why I regard him (his peak) so highly

I like Hull but I just don't quite see it. Not like he's rapid either. Cricket's a funny game with averages as it can just click into place but I don't see him really becoming international class at the moment.

Baring in mind their is a clown kit and a sausage roll kit in here, the fact that this is 10 times the abomination is a very impressive feat. But please delete it

It's a fair point but unfortunately it's hard to present a case for Top or anyone else based on what's happened. What evidence we do have overwhelming shows he has made mistake after mistake. Ultimately those aren't relevant as the biggest factor is that we're in League 1 and I think most owners would have struggled to do that in the same timeframe if they'd tried to. The other thing is that anyone who is pro Top/KP have never made a good or credible argument as to why he should stay, apart from bringing up the PL win. There's a thread about the division in the fanbase so that has just fed the hate that anyone voting in will get (I mean the division in the fanbase/not the thread). The club is facing an existential crisis and those 'iners' just don't seem to understand it. And this is wild to think about, but the reality of the situation is that Rudkin is more likely to be competent that Top is based on the evidence (yes I did just type that). He's sitting at 100% out. I would say that your point about Glover is very reasonable, even if again, evidence suggests unlikely. From what little we get, it's easy to extrapolate that the culture is absolutely abysmal and very cliquey so very possible that and Head of Recruitment is there for lip service only.

If even they don't understand the link, it unfortunately does show a lack of basic intelligence or rather insight/ability to join the dots. Do they think Top is going to then hire somebody amazing? Do they think he will hire somebody who has total control of it and can say no to him? It's absolutely bizarre that anybody thinks this. Top wants somebody 'competent' enough to run that side of the club without it exploding after day 1 but he doesn't care if the club is burning around him. Critically important that people move on from Rudkin now. He's not going anywhere and Top, with his hubris, takes the criticism targeted at Rudkin as evidence that we don't understand how the club is run and he knows much better than us.

Of course it isn't the solution but it's what businesses do always. Seen it happen at multiple places friends and family work in the past year, and with these morons in charge, there's no way they grasp the situation we're in so when the cuts come, certainly won't be to the areas that make the most impact

Cartwright has had a mixed spell and unlike Braybrooke who struggled there, he's never had the same hype or class that makes you think it's just a good learning experience rather than an indicator of ability. Think people are not aware just how much of a mixed bag Scottish football is. Will get some players that will be good PL players but plenty that couldn't cut it in L1 go there and do really well.

Grim. A failing of different FA's/FIFA that he's still allowed to be involved in football

I'd rather watch you do that than get Kevin Muscat. Absolute scum (from my childhood memories...)