Hirsty The Blue 94

West Brom away great escape season will always be my #1 goal despite all his later achievements, none of them would have been possible without that goal.

Same people turning their nose up at Dyche are the same ones that did the same when Moyes was linked after Cooper (not that he necessarily wanted to come) He has achieved far more than some of the journeyman being touted about here, getting Burnley to Europe is given their budget was an outstanding achievement. Think people fall into a trap of judging a book by its cover when talking about his style. It isn't just hoof it, he likes to get the ball wide, get balls into the box. To me that is more exciting than having 65% possession amongst your centre halves and goalkeeper. Also I would say it's much more likely to keep you in the Premier League (as he did with Everton despite being completely hamstrung.) Pearson falls into the same category from an outsider, they see him as some sort of Brexit manager, but our football under him particularly in the year we went up was entertaining, and the back end of the great escape the same. He would have to be backed to bring his type of player in which to me would ne the biggest obstacle as can't see many of our pathetic mob being able to cut it.

For my eyes we certainly need someone with Championship experience, look at the top 3 Wilder, Parker and Farle all have multiple promotions on their CV. I think Enzo was very fortunate he had a squad who were far too good for the league and bought into his style of play. If you look at what we might be left next year compared to what we had 2 years ago. 1 recognised goalkeeper who has played less than 40 senior games of football. Of the defence they are either wanting out (Faes, Kristiansen, Okoli) injured to the point are now broken (Justin, Ricardo) 2 years older ( Vestergaard, Coady.) Midfield the same, Ndidi and Soumare will want out, Winks 2 years older and lost all desire now his beloved Enzo has gone, Skipp will probably be functional but no KDH by any means. Wide players Fatawu providing his ACL hasn't negated some of his raw ability will be a weapon, otherwise you're left with the OAP's of Ayew and Reid on either side. Up top we will have likely 1 recognised senior striker in Daka who was about 4th choice 2 years ago. It's going to either need someone to get a tune out of a completely demoralised mob, or look to move as many on as possible and rebuild, that's not a small job and certainly not a job for an inexperienced coach such as RVN. Ofcourse the problems are much higher up, but can anyone really see any movement in the board room to change the way we operate? In which case this managerial appointment is crucial, get it wrong and we're down there for a while if not worse. If Boro don't go up Carrick would be my choice if you can prize him away, equally Rohl would be a solid option if he hasnt already sorted his next move. We need a manager, not a head coach, someone who is going to reset the standards at the club, reign in the egos and command respect. Basically Pearson from 10 years ago.

Almost like not having a floppy haired moron who is constantly out of position is a burden lifted. Of a bad bunch he is our best centre half we know his weaknesses and yet we expose them rather than cover them. He was fine in Germany, kept Southampton up every year and does well for Denmark all at the top level.

Correct, if Steve Howard wasn't suspended for the 1st leg against Cardiff I'm convinced we would have won and turned over Palace at Wembley. King Power came in and actually took us 2 steps backwards, chucking money at Sousa and Sven which saw us nearer the bottom 3 than the top 2. It was only the Birch suggesting bringing back Nige which got us back on the path to success. He and his team deserve 90% of the plaudits of where we got to, any billionaire can chuck money at things, it takes someone with skill and knowhow to translate that into success. Look at Chelsea for a case in point under Boehly. Saying that, I still think something more nuanced than just 'King Power Out' is needed but that decision has seemingly already been taken. A light needs to be shone on everything at the club, owner, Rudkin & Whelan, Ticketing, Scouting, Manager, Players, Annoying bastard over the tannoy, dodgy gambling deals, safe standing fiasco, the list goes on. Putting all of that on 1 mans door (he is now the owner not KP) almost gives everything else a free pass.

I'd be more inclined to go with the 'Rotten from Top to bottom' as well. A clear dig at Top, but also includes everything below him including Rudkin, Susan, the morons who are in charge of ticketing decisions etc, as well as the manager and players who can't escape criticism as well. I think the majority in the ground (not saying they are correct) would give Top leeway if he proved in the summer there were actually lessons learnt from last relegation and he made significant changes in the structuring of the club. So going KP out would likely make it sound like a noisy minority.

Nice to see the FAB have really held the club to account and put their feet on the coals. - Price freeze despite us being in a lower division and more than when we were in the Champ 2 seasons ago. - Crap introduction of Safe Standing done on the cheap in places where people almost all stand anyway, and areas that do stand not included so can see some heavy handed stewarding next year for those standing not in the designated area. - Introduction of digital ticketing, although mandated by PL its not a league we will be in for a while, will turn a lot of fans away. The people spoke loud and clear this season with only about 5k give or take taking the digital option. - Very little time to decide whether you want to renew, clearly snuck in before we were officially down so more people are dangled by a renewal. All whilst the club is being run like an amateur circus, have a board who have no clue what they're doing, a disinterested owner, a manager who is so far out of his depth its unbelievable and the most unlikeable and overpaid bunch of players I have seen from this club. First time in a long I've ever considered not bothering next year, if it weren't fot my old man wanting to go I certainly wouldn't be renewing. The club used to be a part of my life, now it's just a hobby if I can be bothered. In a twisted sort of way I hope we're in the wilderness for a few years so the club can reset back to its roots, those who have failed miserably get what they deserve and we actually get our football club back rather than just some corporate object.

Another player, similar to Soumare, where the club have regressed to his level. Assume he was picked at left centre half purely that he is left footed, but he wasn't horrendous. Think he's probably one that's been hard done by this season, massively limited but every game he has featured he has been better than any performance I have seen for Kristiansen.

Think you've missed my point, literally none of our defenders are suited to the formation we are currently playing. Vestergaard is slow, not great (but not as bad as people make out) in the air. Good passer of the ball and reads the game okay Faes is a bombscare, positionally terrible, average on the ball but can carry it from the back and when he wants to throws himself in front of a shot. Coady is as slow as Vestergaard, not as good on the ball, decent reader of the game and organiser. Okoli is worse than Amartey with the ball at his feet, slow of thought, not great in the air. Is strong and physical. Find me a combination amongst those 4 players that can play in a pair, with Justin who has had the worse season I have seen from a Leicester player and Kristiansen who is also dog muck. Great escape team had players with flaws at the back, but when we switched to a 3 at the back for the run in we looked much more solid. He played for Southampton who finished lower mid table for years whilst he was there, has 50 caps for Denmark who are in the top 10/15 sides in the world, as well as doing okay in Germany. His fee is largely irrelevant, was paid in haste when Fofana got injured, and if Rudkin is daft enough to pay him 70k a week then that's on the club. To a man our defence is crap, but the style of play adopted by the manager makes them all look worse.

Let's be honest, with the system that Cooper & Ruud are so adamant to play none of our defenders are going to be good enough at this level. Granted the opposition was of a lesser standard last year, but we played with our left back (Doyle or Justin) as a 3rd centre back who rarely crosses the half way, allowing some cover for Faes and Vestergaard. Now we have Kristiansen who just bombs forward like a headless chicken and has no positional sense, evident for West Hams 1st, Arsenals 2nd, Brentfords 2nd goals just in the last 3 weeks. All 4 centre halves have glaring weaknesses at this level, and none are good enough to play in a pair, particularly with our full backs lack of any cover, which is why I'm bemused at successive managers not adopting a back 3/5, particularly when we are rolling out Ayew and Reid as our wide options. Both Coady with Wolves and Vestergaard with Denmark have proved they can play in a back 3 competently enough, just bizarre that our coaching staff can't see what we see from the stands given they analyse every goal and surely see recurring patterns.

Don't even care if we lose this, just want to see 2 things. 1 being something different from Ruud, not just switching a centre back or a defensive midfielder but playing exactly the same, but a shift in formation, style, tempo or completely new personnel who have hardly featured to get a go. Secondly, a team that fights for 90 minutes no matter the score, even if we're 2-0 down after 20 minutes not just to completely throw the towel in.

What we'd give for just half of the characters in that squad now, probably 7 or 8 leaders amongst them, now we have 0. Forgot how much I loved Nige for a bit, probably blurred by all our success after his tenure but watching the last 3 years really prove how good he was for us and left us in a position so much better than where he found us, which can't be said for many managers who leave football clubs. Can see how much every single player respects him, and that's mutual which is why he could galvanise on paper a team of misfits into what he did. Have to say West Brom away during the great escape season was probably my favourite ever away day, atmosphere was electric all day and to win it late was just special. Glad to hear that he is on the mend, and as many have echoed would snap his hand off if he offered his services in any capacity next season, he managed to see off all of Svens overpaid wasters, so if he could do that with this mob then would undoubtedly go down as the GOAT. If he walked into any pub in Leicestershire can't imagine he would have to buy a pint.

No idea how people keep wheeling out excuses for this clown. So debunking a few below. - Nobody could keep this lot up. Dubious at best, but other managers would atleast give us a bit of fight and be closer than we are. Moyes has took a struggling Everton side to mid table and made Beto gone from Akinbiyi to peak Drogba. - He's been missing key players. Ndidi and Mads are now back fit and we're still garbage. Only players now missing are Abdul who is a 19 year old who played about 4 games and wasn't even a regular starter under Cooper, and Ricardo who looked horrendous against league 2 opposition in the Carabao. - He hasn't got his coaching staff. Reason for that is 2 fold, one is he falls out with everyone so nobody wants to work with him, and secondly he managed literally 1 one season so won't have a 'staff' he takes everywhere. - They're not his players. True, and some of Coopers signings were horrendous, but a decent manager galvanises team spirit and a good coach makes bad players look average and average ones look decent. He's done neither. There's probably more. But we need this fella gone ASAP so a new manager can see what he has and needs for the Championship next season as this chancer won't hang around and we will be scrambling in the desperation bin. Look what Sheff U did, accepted relegation, brought Wilder in knowing he was the bloke the for Championship. Surely it can't cost a lot to be rid of him given nobody other than a second division German club wanted him so can't be on a big wedge. Don't get me wrong the entire club needs ripping up and starting again buy earliest that happens is the Summer, whereas we can atleast resolve this error today.

Worst manager since I've supported the club in my 25 years. PE teacher who has won a comp to become a Prem Manager for the season. For all those saying why bother sack him we're down anyway? 2 examples of last season Sheff U pulled the trigger knowing they were down to get Wilder to build for their season in the Champ, and are competing at the top of the league. Luton gave their fella 20 games in the Championship to turn it around and could face back to back relegations. I've seen nothing from him to suggest he had the ability nor personality to turn round a Championship team. Needs someone like Pearson to weed out all the cvnts who are happy to pocket millions and don't care a bit for the club, and replace them with high ceiling sellable assets should we need it.

Assuming you were in the same camp that thought Moyes was a relic, played anti football and as such didn't want him here? Yet he has turned Everton who are missing 3 or 4 key players into a thoroughly decent and attractive team to watch picking up enough points already to keep them safe. People need to look beyond the media reputation of a manager and look at their actual output. Dyche's style of football is direct, but not just boot it to the big bloke, he likes to get it forward and wide quickly to get crosses in, which to my mind is more entertaining than knocking it from 1 centre back to the next. Also the jobs he has done at Burnely (promoted twice, kept up for 5 seasons, 1 in Europe all on a tiny budget) and Everton (dragged them away from trouble, managed points deductions, again was keeping them up this year all again on a tiny budget) are credentials that not many who we could attract would have. The names mentioned there are just as much a gamble as Ruud has been, which has been an abject failure. All done decent enough jobs at a lower level but we would be taking a risk they could operate at a 'bigger' club (I'm aware Wednesday are a massive club just haven't been for a few decades.) We would also have to pay out compensation for them and all their staff, something we may not be able to afford to do.

Incredible that after 9 defeat in 10 and 0 home goals in 450+ minutes the manager confidence is still over 50%. Cooper was getting a better tune out of this shite than Ruud is.

Anyone know what time Local Hero will be open on Saturday for a drink beforehand? Not my usual stomping ground for a pre match pint.

Andy King is about the only good player the academy has produced for roughly 20 years.

Glaringly obvious none of our defenders are good enough at this level to play in a 2, particularly playing such a daft high line like we did on Saturday. Once Fatawu got injured it was clear we had no competent wingers so should have gone 3 at the back then. Mads Justin Vestergaard Okoli Coulibaly Ndidi Soumare Kristiansen Bilal Vardy Daka

2 questions to be asked really, if the club believe we can still stay up having made 0 investment in the squad, is he the man for the job? Or if we're looking for a manager to rebuild us in the Championship to take us back up on a more stable footing financially is he the man for the job? I think answer to both questions is no. Tactically looks completely out of his depth, got no coaching staff as he falls out with everyone, created a horrid culture at Seagrave, not utilising any of our young players sticking to Coopers dads army. To me if you can convince Dyche to come then you do it, he has proven he can get a team to scrap and fight for points, kept Evertpn up with a points deduction and an equally crackpot boardroom. Also established himself at Burnley in getting them to bounce straight back and then establish themselves in the Prem for a good half a decade, even getting to Europe.

Football snobs turned their nose up at Moyes, look what he has done in 4 games basically secured their Premier League status. Ruud was the opposite of the appointment we needed, man learning his trade in a relegation battle.

Dreadful individually at the back between the 2 centre backs, but good chunk of the blame is on Ruud here. He's playing a high line with the slowest defender in the league and a bloke who has 0 positional sense, whilst applying no pressure on the ball. Combination of those things are always going to result in shite. Only time we've looked any good is when we either press high, or defend in a low block. This tactic explicitly exposes all of our weaknesses. Dreadfully coached football team.

Can see an unchanged team, unless Mads is back fully fit he goes straight back in nets. 0-0 written all over this, neither team create much, both have decent shot stoppers in nets. Only edge Everton have is the set plays I would say, Moyes teams always strong from them. All told that wouldn't be a bad return, but a win would be huge given we expect Ipswich to turn over Southampton. Dragging another team into it means we would only need to finish 2nd in a 4 team league, rather than top of a 3 team league down the bottom.

It's alright trying to act the big guy when you have a wealth of experience and success behind you, but probably going to fall on deaf ears when you've achieved the square root of bugger all in the game. Respect as a manager has to be earned, can't just come in and throw your weight around from day 1. Club is just on its arse from the Top downwards, very few things that I actually like about this football club at the minute.

This bloke is so far out of his depth it's untrue. Just stands on the sideline with his arms folded, no coaching, no encouragement, no bollockings. Just highlights the level of incompetency st board level that they thought that a bloke who managed 1 season in the Dutch league, and won 4 games as United caretaker would be up for the task of a relegation battle. Been dealt a shite sandwich in terms of playing squad and injuries but he has taken us backwards which was an incredibly low bar as Cooper was in our top 3 worst managers of all time. Get Dyche in this week if we can, would atleast bring some discipline, style of play no matter how ugly and graft that we have none of at the minute. Also will be a solid option in trying to navigate through the Championship next season.