JimmyC74

Not so sure about that but, the overarching point is the Club needs to recruit better, more experienced football people to oversee the strategy and deliver better outcomes.

Do you think they are waiting to see if Potter will take the job before green lighting incomings, fearing that he won’t sign without having the final say?

🙏RIEP Kev

Without doubt not *all* our troubles can be laid solely at Rudders door. That said it does not fill you with confidence that he is still in overall charge of scouting / recruitment / footballing strategy at a time when we expect to start the season with a (six points minimum) points deduction, need to build a squad capable of staying up (probably needing 50 points) at the same time as selling players to avoid a PSR breach for 2023-24. Those issues would challenge the best DofF and if we are to crawl our way back as an established side in the prem that is what we need.

I think Moyes would take the job for the following reasons:- 1. He was given freedom to manage the Club (not be just a coach) - the board has historically not interfered. 2. We can throw money at him in terms of wages / bonuses for staying up. 3. Training ground etc. From the noises coming out of the Club (playing style), I don’t think they would go for Moyes. They do need someone though who can get us organised and ensure the defence is as watertight as possible.

Yeah, it’s a case of the first XI / squad maybe not being what we would ideally want but we have to be pragmatic and accept there may be only a few new additions. More important is the managerial appointment IMO. Someone who has the tactics to grind out results and he can get the most out of the players.

One of main reasons we won the prem in 2015-16 was our strong defence and if we are to stand a chance of staying up we will need to be organised and well set-up - so a manager with strong tactical attributes is a must IMO.

Given our financial position, unless someone comes in with a bid at least equal to his amortised value, then I think the lad has to be reintegrated into the side. Maybe if we move away from the inverted full backs he can be happy and kick on. Challenge will on the new manager to ensure the team is balanced, find the best tactical set-up based on what we have and we compensate for Vestergaard’s lack of pace.

Rudders at the wheel…. I am sure he has learned from his mistakes *cough* https://x.com/owynnpa/status/1799106571492004343?s=46

The board needs to crack on now. Let's not waste time flirting with Potter only to get rejected (again). identify a pragmatic, hungry manager who is up the challenge and go all out to appoint them.

Agreed, I think it is time to say thanks Wilf and move on. His best performances in the prem were a few years back and when you balance that against his injury record, wages and our need to bring wage costs down its best we look elsewhere. That said I think we will need someone with similar attributes, a box to box midfielder, with physicality and good turnover stats.

Not likely

Italian teams v.unlikely to cough up that sort of fee - you might get it from a side in the prem / or might have before PSR became such an issue.

Haven’t they changed their (football operation) back office management in last couple of years. Adding people like Monchi etc. compare Villa to us….a year or two back we were top dogs, failed to replace Rodgers and Rudkin and we fell on our arse. investment is not just needed in bricks and mortar e.g Seagrave. point being whoever comes in as manager we should still look to enhance the football operation.

No doubt money (that is salary package, not transfer war chest) will be a factor. Also the opportunity to manage in the prem / using us as a shop window will be attractive for others. There will be a long list of potential managers wanting the job, and the decision I think is do they go for someone who sees us as a project for a number of years (sticking with us if we are relegated)or someone who will likely have an impact but be off as soon as someone in top 6 shows a bit of leg. That’s not to say the calibre of names will match with ideally what some fans would want. And probably expect whoever comes in will end up splitting opinion.

Is it Rudders who identifies, recommends the prospective manager or does Top take a more active role?

This. probably has more of this fun for at least the next week / 10 days. Joy.

Even Rudders, surely, couldn’t think that bringing in Garcia for Enzo would fly.

Thanks Enzo for last season. crack on now citeh.

What is undeniably worse is that the protagonists behind it all are all still in place.

That’s UK sports media for you…..their favouritism / bias pollutes all their content.

And safeguards own job (by manager’s exit who had questioned his role).

With Enzo moving on to pastures new, Rudders breathes a sigh of relief that his position as DofF is safe (at least until the new manager starts to work with him;)

hail hail

@Ric Flair you boys doin a pod fella?