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Other way around, they are using PL interest to get a decent fee from Roma.

Dont get me wrong I'm happy to re sign Ndidi but financially it's not clear cut whether signing him on a free is better than signing a young player on lower wages for a fee.

Congerton left Atalanta a while ago.

That doesnt take into account that a younger player at the start of his career on lower wages is more likely to have more resale value than Wilf on the decline.

Kristiansen isn't Juventus quality.

Okoli Vestergaard Faes in my mind is either going to be the next Simpson Huth Morgan Fuchs or is going to be the leading cause of alcoholism in Leicester next year. No inbetween.

Would rather stick with Daka to be honest. Sassuolo previously rinsed us for the mediocre Praet, I can see us spending £15-20mil on this guy which would be absolutely honking.

They see him as their second brightest youth prospect. There was one who is considered better but i cant remember his name. Hopefully he ends up like a Livramento/Lamptey type deal.

Matt O'Riley's dream club to play for is Man City due to the style of play so we would have had a better chance of attracting him with Maresca here. He has been a player of interest for the club for a while though so it wouldnt surprise me if he was one of the options to replace Dewbury Hall.

Born in England to a Dad with Irish heritage and a mum with Danish heritage

Different levels of talent. Yes theoretically if he had a Fofana type season it would make the transfer look like a cheap buy. Similarly if Barcelona bought Wout Faes for £50 mil and he turned into Carlos Puyol it would make the £50mil look like a steal, but it's just not going to happen. Okoli is a relegation level £6mil centre back with a potential ceiling as a midtable £20mil centre back. He just doesnt have the defensive awareness to be worth £60mil at any point in his career.

What makes this transfer look even worse is that Southampton are looking to get Ronnie Edwards and Nathan Wood for less than the fee we are paying for Okoli combined. It makes the posters trying to lecture others on how we need to accept that we are now operating in a bargain bin market look a bit silly. We are relatively breaking the bank for this bloke, a premium transfer for the situation we are in, and he might not even be any good.

Atalanta fans, they said they were expecting £5-6 mil for him from a Serie A club and were surprised that we spent £11mil on him. If we were to sell him after an average/poor year we would be looking at a £4-5mil sale. As mentioned above though the fee including addons that may not be hit makes it more reasonable.

That's more reasonable to be fair, if it's £8m plus addons then you could argue that the extra £2m is just PL tax. Hopefully it's not appearance based addons though because they incentivise not playing him.

It's all relative, Okoli is considered to be a £6mil player, so we aren't paying a modest fee at £11mil, we are overpaying significantly. This kind of business is the reason we are in this whole PSR situation, it's fine taking a risk on a young player, but due to us overpaying if he doesn't work out we won't be able to sell him and break even on FFP. We complain about Serie A and La Liga clubs taking us for a ride on transfer values for Praet, Kristiansen etc but this is natural result of us almost spending double what they are worth in the first place. Paying double the value of a player is never smart transfer business, we are taking a big risk and if that risk doesn't work out then we will be stuck with him running down his value on loan/on the bench alongside Soumare, Souttar, Coady etc.

From the video he looks around Faes's pace, maybe slower. An Italian on reddit had this to say about him, which implies that he's not fast - "Unfortunately, doesn't always read the game well and lacks the pace to cover up for mistakes as easily. Definitely stood out as Frosinone's best defender last season but realistically that's not saying much."

It's just very typical that on a thread about a black defender you instantly have incorrect posts about adding pace at the back, maybe you were just going with the flow but it's not a wild leap to think that people made the pace assumption based on his race.

Just because he's black does not mean he has pace. He seems to be around the same as Faes, not slow but not fast either.

Not according to the Italians, they seem to view him the same as fans of other premier league teams view Faes.

one of the worst defenders in serie A apparently. What are we thinking spending 11 million pounds.

Gabriel Sar, Florentino Luis etc? Theres loads of good midfielders around, the issue is whether we have the fund and spending 15 mil on a winger when that's our strongest position doesnt help.

15mil on a 24 yr old winger who doesnt have a great record in the Argentinian league seems strange to me. Surely it's smarter to use this money on a quality midfielder.

I was talking about Matt O'riley

Steve Cooper used to manage him for the England U17s but he didnt want to get called up for the u17 world cup and got injured anyway so I dont think there is a strong connection there.

Considering he was against Mbappe, griezmann and thuram I thought he did very well. Had quite a good tournament overall.