LCFCJohn

He’s got talent but just doesn’t seem suited to coping with adversity. Like pretty much everyone we have signed since 2016, lacking in mental strength. Probably have a good season for West Ham in the Championship if they stick with him.

They’ve barely ever been in a league higher than us and it is the first time in history they have been 2 higher. It’s peak circumstances in terms of our fans coming out the woodwork and ours hiding.

Funny how the media try and spin things to make sound so much more impressive. Semenyo - non league to fa cup https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cj9pz9rnywzo So basically, came through a championship academy in Bristol City and did a few games on loan at Bath when he was 18! What about Wes Morgan‘s journey from non-league (few games at Kidderminster in his younger days at Forest) to FA cup glory

I mean the most relevant bit is right after the bit you have bolded but you have omitted. Safety for him and his family? A lot of people want to retire early if they can afford it or at least do something part time that is enjoyable. If you want the documentary and see how he looked 10 years ago to now, then tell me it’s worth it for him…

Pretty sure Ben Marshall was the terrible culture! I’m not cherry picking moments out like you have. That situation wasn’t Pearson’s best moment of course. I am talking overall, the health of the club. The stuff behind the scenes, sports science, scouting, players playing for the shirt. You’ll always be able to pick out one or two like you have but Wes Morgan? James? Drinkwater? Vardy? Huth? Kante and Fuchs were Pearson/Walsh signings. The club was in such good health then. My point was how everything has deteriorated since they left.

Class The guy scrambling up onto the van to try and turn it off

Different people have different ways of living I guess but if I had earned the amount he has working for the club, I’d damn we’ll be retired by 58, particularly given the issues with family safety. Although some of those points you said, whilst obviously speculative, would explain looking deeply unhappy.

Definitely. I’m surprised there’s been barely a mention of it (lack of deduction for next season) on here. Whatever your thoughts on how we will do, it’s very relevant. If you think we’ll be challenging for promotion or playoffs, you’d imagine now Wednesday are sorted and on a level playing field, so will they. If you think we will be struggling at the wrong end, Wednesday being on -15 would have been helpful.

If you’re Vardy and going to return to England, to play in L1 and on L1 wages, you’d be looking to go to Wednesday over us at this stage anyway. He’s got nothing else to prove to himself here. Whereas returning for a season where it started as a child, where his story nearly never started, to get them back up would be more appealing for him you’d think.

Interesting to see how Rudkin looked on the couple of times he briefly appeared on the Vardy documentary. Obviously the first being when he signed with Whelan the other side. He appeared again on the footage inside the tunnel area and looked so naturally smiling and healthy. Fast forward to now, every time you see him he looks like a zombie, no emotions, and a lot of weight put on around the neck/face. It paints a picture of an unhappy man. I know people say he stays for the money and power but why? He could earn well being moved to another part of the KP business. Is money/power worth it if it causes that type of deterioration in your physical appearance and mental state (reading between the lines on the latter).

Watching this just made me sad and wish for those Pearson times based again, before Aiyawatt, Rudkin and a less extent, Vichai, pulled it all apart. Players who cared, crowd invested and passionate. What happened? I hadn’t realised all that birth father thing had happened to him, seemingly from the documentary, after the Man Utd 11 heaven game, before the next game away at Swansea. Makes you wonder if he’d have extended the scoring streak even further if that hadn’t happened! Though maybe just one where it was always going to end that day after having beaten it.

Everyone is free to do as they please. However, we all know what to expect from the club by now so by allowing them to continue as normal by ‘supporting’ them, it does mean you can’t really complain about things continuing to go wrong.

You just have to ask yourself, if you were suddenly in charge of Forest or Coventry and actively wanted to tank them, what would you do? And would it be any different to Aiyawatt’s ownership of us….

AFC Fylde away and sneak Danny Ormerod on the coach on the way back to satisfy @Ric Flair?

Yep, but it’s not like the starting position under RvN even needed inflating to illustrate the point being made. The fact we beat both quite comfortably at the end of the season and finished at least highest of the relegated 3, to see the seasons all 3 have had this season is shocking.

It is a chance to play Harborough Town before we are in the same league as them in a few years now you mention it!

Worth noting that Ranieri being later was different as we didn’t go into that summer knowing a change was coming, until circumstances post season caused it. Similar with Cooper replacing Maresca. What it shows is just how bad last summer was. The fact it took the about 3 months from when we were officially down to getting a manager…no other club is so incompetent. It’s no wonder we are prepared for more of the same this time!

I get what you mean about a churn being needed, refresh the fan base is the point I guess. Question is though, is it the right section of fans that have been lost? Probably not. Most of those who have not renewed are those who really care and would get behind the team and make an atmosphere if there team was one you could get behind. The likelihood is, we have retained the ones that just sit there and moan unless it’s time to clap a them off after another diabolical performance or resort to physical violence against anyone calling out the club’s incompetence. It will be interesting to see how the match day attendees are next season and the atmosphere as a result.

Both posts correct. At most you can say fair enough for being able to admit a mistake and put it right. But if that’s the most that can be mustered as a way of crediting KP for what we achieved, it’s a rather tenuous link to praise them on.

13 years ago today…Deeney Day! Probably benefited us in the long run but f*** it was a tough day!

Na, you can think Thomas is bad whilst appreciating others have been worse. Thomas has at least had good games for us, albeit not often enough and has had some contributions going forward. Not saying it’s anywhere near enough but Kristiansen has done literally nothing whilst being as poor defensively when he has on the odd occasion, made himself available to play. And he cost something like £17mill! McGivern we were at a different level as a club and expectations but yeah also poor. Probably the worst 3 either way. Oh for a Fuchs or Berner type now….even Powell. Those kind of characters.

The question would be, now Sheffield Wednesday are sorted with owners, no points deduction and I believe freedom back in the transfer market, why would they not look to keep him? They are a now a more attractive prospect than us for next season and will most likely have a better season than us so I’d question why they would not keep him and if they do want to, why he would leave them for us. Impressive if he comes here and has Sheffield United, Sheffield Wednesday, Derby, Forest and Leicester on his CV though!

Steady on, you know for them to be the second Leicestershire football team, we have to stay in the EFL! Don’t get ahead of yourself

I have just seen a Sheff Weds supporting colleague this morning for the first time since the weekend before last, when their ownership and the lack of dedication were announced. He’s absolutely bouncing. No dedication, new ownership putting in a structure, which they have announced to the fans, able to sign players again and looking forward to next season. But oh yeah, we have to be ‘careful what we wish for’ because this guy is the son of the guy who happened to own the club when we won the league…. Literally I am so envious of Wednesday right now with their future so bright.

Plus the timeframe being talked about was more the mid-80’s and 90’s when mining had stopped so all this mention of pits and the 70’s is actually far from the point as that is the generation before the one being discussed who did have it tougher.