Dan

He's probably chancing it we win the Championship so he can parade it to all the clueless influencers again. None of them would be aware what a disgrace it is we landed there in the first place.

Sums up what a toxic culture there is at this club that somebody can come in as humble as he was, be largely absolutely rubbish and then leave it thinking he's too good for us. A top down lack of respect at the club. Ashamed I used to rate him. Made a good start to be fair, but has become unbearable. The poster boy for ours and Belgium's demise.

It stinks of us this does. Ticks so many boxes. Would not be the first time we'd go for somebody recently sacked by a 'lesser' team.

Michael Carrick reeks of us. Out of work so cheap, beat us twice in 2023/24 so gets overestimated on here somewhat despite two pretty disappointing campaigns at Middlesbrough, quite hipster vibes. Basically he's not hugely dissimilar to Martin without a lot of the same baggage. Could see them going for him.

Entire transfer has gone totally predictably, again, to amateurs like me. How are these people professionals?

I completely forget about Gerrard's Villa reign. I did think he'd be better than he was. Looked well out of his depth. As stated his Rangers job gets a bit underappreciated.

Voted for Rohl. Think he's done a good job in very tricky circumstances and his preference is a style of play that our fans are likelier to take to. What's good about him is he's genuinely popular at his club - and we've not had that in a manager since probably Ranieri, ridiculous as it sounds.

Unironically think there's a chance he manages us if this hierarchy are still there in a year. It's too ridiculous for even us at the minute but with the consistency of the decline under Aiyawatt I couldn't rule it out.

Thank god for that.

I can't stand the PL either but what's ever irritating is that when there are two issues, one will always be used to distract from the other. I can't full on bash the PL until we've got our own house in order. We need a position of strength.

Barcelona had Yamal in their team at 16. It's not likely but it's not impossible. Probably pushing it to make that comparison though as Yamal is insanely good.

They would have us in line with Ipswich and Southampton if not for the deduction. I'm saying this as somebody who wants 90% of them cannoning into outer space,

I'd say without near certainty that we're getting a deduction they wouldn't boost us to something like that. They don't know the outcome but I don't think they would offer odds like that without very good reason. Which is all I said in the first place.

I'll take what they do with Man City as a flip side. Man City were favourites to win the league last season (as expected) but were something like 6th favourites to be relegated, on the basis of them possibly getting a big punishment. The difference there is in neither instance are the bookies giving you the value. They're giving you a crap price on both. This is different, they're giving you a frankly enormous price. 11/1 on Leicester to win the Championship, without a deduction, even in our current state is insane. They would only offer you that for good reason. * Not trying to encourage you all to bet on it but to be honest if I was as confident as some of you it meant nothing then I would be all over that.

I think unless the chance of a points deduction was nearly certain that they would price us in line with Ipswich and Southampton. The fact they're offering that sort of price tells me we're almost certainly getting done. If it isn't a certainty, then this makes Leicester's odds to be promoted or win the league extremely generous. I would put money on it myself but I can only conclude based on those odds that we are getting a deduction. I mean I may be wrong but I'll happily revisit this in 6 months because I'm quite sure I won't be.

Because if there is zero chance of a points deduction then making us those sorts of odds are ridiculously valuable. I'm genuinely surprised at the pushback here. Are you all sure?

They don't though do they? They aren't going to price us like that without very good reason.

Those odds on us to win the league or get promoted next season tell us a points deduction is an absolute certainty.

Correct. In some ways, I think Rudkin getting the chop would actually hurt us because it would take the heat off, fool people that things are good again when in fact they aren't. Further plunged into the mire.

It's the right time. It's a massive shame, I really think without those injuries he'd have had a career at the very top. But he's another who'll be on big money who we get very little out of on the pitch these days. He goes with more of a blessing than most, but right time for me.

This PSG side are the best side I've seen in years.

I don't think our drop off in performance from 2021/22 to 2022/23 was 'that' significant. We were frequently getting better results than our performances deserved and we then threw in a terrible goalkeeper the season after. Coming 8th that season was a huge paper over the cracks job. We ought to have come about 13th/14th and I think if we did we'd have possibly taken more measures to stop what was going to follow. That being said, everything that has followed since has told me they probably wouldn't have done. They would put it down to a blip and that we would be back pushing for the CL places the year after.

Cricket has never really been my bag and the best conversation I can probably hold with someone about it in any sort of detail is the insanity of that World Cup final back in 2019. But I went last night, been telling myself I'd go along for a while. Went in a group of about 15 of us. Completely get the appeal and why people like it. It's clearly a club going in the right direction, based on this thread and the comments about how it was the busiest it had been in years etc... it definitely scratched an itch for me. Like I'm already doing something next Friday and I'm half tempted to try and rearrange that to the next day because I fancy going again - as somebody who has never really been into cricket. I think it's a good opportunity for them. It's a sports club in Leicester with a feel good factor about it. With the state of LCFC and how utterly depressing that has become, this is a genuinely nice experience. Spotted plenty of people I recognised from LCFC as well. So yeah good stuff, glad I went and I'll go back - just unsure when exactly.

It's pretty clear they won't listen to the fans and don't give a shit about anything that's done in the ground regardless, so what next? I think you have to think about what they do actually care about and how you can hurt them through channels that will actually get to them. Ways to publicly humiliate them.

Yep. Won't happen obviously but I'd genuinely forgive his tenure if he made them look like twats - not that they need much help.