Guest MattP Posted 20 October 2015 Posted 20 October 2015 How did the troublemakers get into the building? How do you know the troublemakers aren't homeless?
MooseBreath Posted 20 October 2015 Posted 20 October 2015 I bet Gary Neville is regretting his decision, sounds like the place is falling to bits already, now saying they desperately need security assistance. Wouldn't be surprised if it's burned down by morning. That's if a fire can start with all the urine all over the place.
Rincewind Posted 20 October 2015 Posted 20 October 2015 How did the troublemakers get into the building? How do you know the troublemakers aren't homeless? ! the lack of security which would be a requirement 2 How do you know they were? From how I read it the building is not ready for anyone to stay in ATM. They still have electricians and other workers in there. Because of little security which a lot of buildings do have it is easy for outsiders to enter. Maybe they have records with name and addresses and are known to the police. Quite logical when not looking at to condemn them without knowing anything about them. You could try contacting them and asking. Maybe I should be like you and judge people. Why so quick to disbelieve the people that are doing this work which they have been doing for some time?
davieG Posted 20 October 2015 Posted 20 October 2015 Women's Equality Party calls for quotas for female MPs 2 hours ago From the sectionUK Politics Image copyrightPAImage captionSophie Walker said the fight for equal representation had taken too long The Women's Equality Party has called for quotas for female MPs, an end to the gender pay gap and more affordable childcare as it set out its agenda. The party, which was formed six months ago, said it would field candidates in elections starting next Spring. Leader Sophie Walker said Parliament could have equal representation of men and women within a decade if parties prioritised women in safe seats. She attacked other parties for thinking they could "dole out" equality. The party, the brainchild of broadcaster Sandi Toksvig and journalist Catherine Mayer, says it is prepared to work with other parties to secure genuine equality in society but has challenged David Cameron "to put us out of business" by implementing all of its ideas. 'Special measures' At a policy launch in London, Ms Walker, herself a former journalist, said many of the problems facing women were a product of the fact they were not "equal decision makers", whether in politics, business or other areas of public life.. "We have made some progress but the path to shared power is taking too long to pave," she said. "So we have concluded that as a temporary measure quotas are necessary." It was lamentable, she said, that women still made up less than a third of the Commons - 191 of the UK's 650 MPs. "We will put Parliament into special measures for two elections. Political parties should field women in two thirds of seats, including two thirds of safe seats. We can have a 50:50 Parliament in a decade." She also called for 75% of new peers to be women and for all publicly listed companies to have a 50:50 gender ratio on their boards and executive committees by 2025. 'Realising potential' The party has called for action to tackle the "exorbitant" cost of childcare, which it says is stopping at least 600,000 women from either returning to the workplace or working the full hours they want to. It has called for government-subsidised childcare to be available to all parents at the end of their parental leave, a £6.5bn commitment it says could be paid for by introducing a single rate of tax relief on pensions. "We want women to realise their potential and we want to do that by providing a system of childcare that does not cost the earth and does not have to be waited for," Ms Walker told party supporters. Among its other priorities are to challenge gender stereotyping in schools, to tackle discrimination against older women, to increase the rate of prosecutions for domestic violence and to make the purchase of sex a criminal offence. "Our country has a gendered culture where men are seen as entitled to dominate and the media portrays women as sex objects," she said. "The acts of everyday sexism that permeate our culture must not be trivialised, they must be challenged and they must be defeated." Ahead of Tuesday's launch, the party released a report suggesting women earned £245bn less than men each year in the UK. Ms Walker accused the Conservatives, Labour and Lib Dems of treating equality as a political football, saying it "seems to me that they are more interested in claiming the right to deliver equality than actually deliver it".
Guest MattP Posted 20 October 2015 Posted 20 October 2015 Why the rush to believe everything they say? Yesterday these "activists" were telling us everything was fine, they were doing the place up, they had a rota and a urine free environment. Now within 24 hours these people have lost so much control they are begging for security? No wonder they can't get a job, a pack of stray animals would keep hold of the fort longer and presumably, wouldn't be covered in urine.
Guest MattP Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 To be fair to Jezza, he looked quite dapper in his little white dickie bow at the Palace last night. In more bizarre news, he's actually gone and appointed Seumas Milne as his director of communications, you almost think he wants the press to force him out of his job sometimes.
Darkon84 Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 To be fair to Jezza, he looked quite dapper in his little white dickie bow at the Palace last night. In more bizarre news, he's actually gone and appointed Seumas Milne as his director of communications, you almost think he wants the press to force him out of his job sometimes. Surely not? They wouldn't really give a top job to someone who was heavily involved in the media (all media is right wing of course), and who's father was Director General of the BBC (so he would have had a rich, privileged upbringing, or silver spoon you could say), and who also went to University in Oxford?!?!?!
Guest MattP Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 Surely not? They wouldn't really give a top job to someone who was heavily involved in the media (all media is right wing of course), and who's father was Director General of the BBC (so he would have had a rich, privileged upbringing, or silver spoon you could say), and who also went to University in Oxford?!?!?! It's the new politics. A combination of manifest incompetence, managerial inadequacy, ineffectual bullying, spin and lies, just with people of a far left persuasion doing it instead of centre left. More impressively as well.
Rincewind Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 Yes it does seem strange appointing a person with knowledge of the media.
Darkon84 Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 Yes it does seem strange appointing a person with knowledge of the media. It was more a bit of a dig at how apparently all Tories are silver spoon, rich kids at top Universities, and the media is all right wing biased.....but that's exactly what Milne is and how could he be involved in the media if it's all supposedly right wing. Not a serious point as such, just pointing out the irony.
Guest MattP Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 Effectively someone who took advantage of the Guardian comment is free page Ken, the guy has no wider connections in the media. Although more worrying are his political views, he didn't regard the Lee Rigby killing as terrorism, openly defends people like Stalin and Mao, thinks the fall of the Berlin wall was tragic and saw 9/11 as a measured response. Lovely guy.
Darkon84 Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 Effectively someone who took advantage of the Guardian comment is free page Ken, the guy has no wider connections in the media. Although more worrying are his political views, he didn't regard the Lee Rigby killing as terrorism, openly defends people like Stalin and Mao, thinks the fall of the Berlin wall was tragic and saw 9/11 as a measured response. Lovely guy. Well I'd heard a couple of things along those lines about him before, but not the 9/11 thing or about Lee Rigby, jeeeeez!
Guest MattP Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 Well I'd heard a couple of things along those lines about him before, but not the 9/11 thing or about Lee Rigby, jeeeeez! http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/20/woolwich-attack-muslim-world-islamophobia To be fair even the Guardian readers in the comments at the bottom were quite sickened by the article judging by the responses he gets, but still trying to blame the USA for attacks like this is pretty low, you get the feeling from types like him there will always be an excuse for Islamists to commit the most horrific acts. You would think someone who writes this would know Islam (and Christianity to a large extent) have been doing this sort of thing for far far longer than the USA has existed.
Guest MattP Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 Tories now standing up at PMQ'S and asking questions from "Ian from Enfield".
Rincewind Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 Tories now standing up at PMQ'S and asking questions from "Ian from Enfield". And? No do not answer. It will just be your version as you interpret it.
Alf Bentley Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 Tories now standing up at PMQ'S and asking questions from "Ian from Enfield". Ian from Chingford, surely?
leicsmac Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 Tories now standing up at PMQ'S and asking questions from "Ian from Enfield". Well, they've considered the average Joe in the street a punchline to a joke beyond manipulating the media to get their votes for years now, so why change the habit of a lifetime? /adhominem
Darkon84 Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 And? No do not answer. It will just be your version as you interpret it. They were actually discussing tax credits for the next 5 minutes. Bet you didn't see that one coming EDIT: In fact, most of it has been around the disabled, tax credits and poverty today.
Guest MattP Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 And the UN investigation on our disability affairs, something Ken claimed was being hushed up.
Rincewind Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 And the UN investigation on our disability affairs, something Ken claimed was being hushed up. Its not now. The full details were not permitted to be made public until the investigation started. Glad they have at last admitted that it exists and not laughing it off as a joke. It will take a while as they have to visit various parts of the country with several meetings. Which include lawyers and social and disabled groups who have been compiling documents over the past few years as well as ministers. So it is more serious than some would have us believe. They would not investigate unless they thought there was not a just cause for bring the charges. On another subject this is about social housing and the changes in rents and payments which means landlords have to charge the market value. Maybe someone will make sense of this. The figures in the chart are just one example and I accept they may well be one sided but there must be many households that will fall into those figures. https://speye.wordpress.com/2015/10/20/work-and-you-cant-afford-to-rent-social-housing/
Guest MattP Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 He did sort of laugh it off, just basically said the whole thing wasn't as it seems and that when you look at the rights disabled people have in Britain compared to the rest of the World we have absolutely nothing to hide regarding disibility rights.
Rincewind Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 He did sort of laugh it off, just basically said the whole thing wasn't as it seems and that when you look at the rights disabled people have in Britain compared to the rest of the World we have absolutely nothing to hide regarding disability rights. It is not a matter of comparison though is it? We are one of the richest nations so equality and rights have to be better. We are not a dictatorship or poverty stricken country so standards need to be higher for all.
Guest MattP Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 It is not a matter of comparison though is it? We are one of the richest nations so equality and rights have to be better. We are not a dictatorship or poverty stricken country so standards need to be higher for all. We are a country that is 1.5 trillion in debt and still borrowing 80 billion a year to get by, we might look rich on GDP figures but we simply aren't, hence our everything must go sale to the Chinese this week, we are a country desperate for investment. Despite that you'll still struggle to find many countries that do better than us when it comes to equality and rights.
Guest MattP Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 The Nonce Finder General will be giving evidence in a half hour or so to the home affairs select committee regarding his nonce finding, he's being left out to dry by the DCI being questioned at the minute, calling it a "baseless witch-hunt". I can't stand Keith Vaz but he is absolutely brilliant at this, perfect person to chair the HAC.Sky News appear to be showing it live. Live coverage from the Grauniad here - http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2015/oct/21/jeremy-corbyn-faces-cameron-in-his-third-pmqs-politics-live
Fox92 Posted 21 October 2015 Posted 21 October 2015 How many times have we heard him say he's got a "plan"!? This time a "plan" for the steel industry. It's just another industry we'll end up losing.
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