has our goal keeping improved since joining the top flight ?

[Tim'llFixIt]

 i hold kasper in high regard, but obviously get frustrated with his goalkeeping at times, ( however i think this is true for any football fan )

 

would you guys say that he has improved over the past few years and since the turn around in our run, and if not is it down to our goal keeping coaches maybe or just that fact that kasper is not good enough at this level  ?

 

i'm not totally against a new keeper however i think that now that a solid defence is in front of him his qualities as a keeper will shine through more.

 

[Dr The Singh]

Kasper is a mid range Prem keeper, he is probably between 10th-15th of prem keepers

[glenny_fox]

It would be one of the key areas I'd like to see us improve on.

 

I don't think it's coincidental that all of our goals we concede come from set pieces. Kasper is a great shot stopper but his decision making and commanding of his area leave a lot to be desired. Perfect example the Man U game. the corner that man utd scored from should of been Kaspers all day long. Instead he was rooted to the ground.

[AyewJoking]

how great would it be if we had a keeper who owned the area?

 

fingers crossed kasper can add that to his game because otherwise he has been great for us.

[ImBlue]

how great would it be if we had a keeper who owned the area?

fingers crossed kasper can add that to his game because otherwise he has been great for us.

How great it would be to have a player who could waltz through a whole team like Messi does and have an end product. Fingers crossed Ulloa can add that to his game.

[americanfox]

Kasper is a mid range Prem keeper, he is probably between 10th-15th of prem keepers

 

Let's see: Courtois, De Gea, Cech, Lloris, Hart, Butland, Begovic, Krul, and Adrian are definitely/probably better. So he's definitely top-half.

[ImBlue]

Let's see: Courtois, De Gea, Cech, Lloris, Hart, Butland, Begovic, Krul, and Adrian are definitely/probably better. So he's definitely top-half.

Was shot down for saying he was better than Flappianski a few weeks ago. Love to hear there thoughts on Riyad's first.

[luke the fox]

I feel all this criticism towards Kasper isn't right. He is so good in every area of his game except demanding his area at crosses. If he had this then he wouldn't be playing for us (he would have left for a better team before this season)

[Tim'llFixIt]

How great it would be to have a player who could waltz through a whole team like Messi does and have an end product. Fingers crossed Ulloa can add that to his game.

I think it's easier for a keeper to add to his game In fairness

His command does need Improving on though his dad needs to have a word

I feel all this criticism towards Kasper isn't right. He is so good in every area of his game except demanding his area at crosses. If he had this then he wouldn't be playing for us (he would have left for a better team before this season)

Agreed

[Guest]

Kasper is a mid range Prem keeper, he is probably between 10th-15th of prem keepers

 

I like Kasper and love what he has done but I think you're being generous.

but we are top of the league.

[Kilworthfox]

I have no issues with Kasper, I think it shows how far we have come if we are calling out Ks.

[DB11]

I loved Kasper in the Championship and couldn't believe we had such a good keeper, after a number of years of bad ones (remember Ricardo?) Despite getting promotion I was sure he was still going to go to a better Premier League side.

 

I'm still content with Kasper in goal, but I think he does need to be more commanding of his area, especially at set pieces

[Lionheart10]

Most of those top keepers are the tallest player on the pitch so commanding the area in the air is easier,Kasper is small these days for a keeper and at 6 ft 2 ins doesn't have that presence.

[Sampson]

I feel all this criticism towards Kasper isn't right. He is so good in every area of his game except demanding his area at crosses.

 

His distribution is also so, so poor - it's statistically by far and away the worst of any 1st choice keeper in the league. People defend it because once a season or so we get a goal from it, but it really isn't worth it considering we're giving it straight back to the opposition or straight into touch the vast majority of times he plays the ball.

 

http://www.squawka.com/football-player-rankings#distribution#goalkeeper-stats#english-barclays-premier-league|season-2015/2016#all-teams#goalkeeper#16#44#0#0#90#08/08/2015#06/12/2015#season#1#all-matches#total#desc#total

 

This season his success rate of finding a Leicester player from goal kicks has been 29% and from kicks from his hand is 20% and still only 36% from other kicks (free-kicks etc.) which is literally shocking, pub level stuff..

 

He's a good shot stopper, but his distribution is awful and command of the area is iffy and you need to be more than a good shot stopper at Premier League level.

[americanfox]

His distribution is also so, so poor - it's statistically by far and away the worst of any 1st choice keeper in the league. People defend it because once a season or so we get a goal from it, but it really isn't worth it considering we're giving it straight back to the opposition the vast majority of times he plays the ball.

http://www.squawka.com/football-player-rankings#distribution#goalkeeper-stats#english-barclays-premier-league|season-2015/2016#all-teams#goalkeeper#16#44#0#0#90#08/08/2015#06/12/2015#season#1#all-matches#total#desc#total

 

This season his success rate of finding a Leicester player from goal kicks has been 29% and from kicks from his hand is 20% and still only 36% from other kicks (free-kicks etc.) which is literally shocking, pub level stuff.

 

He's a good shot stopper, but his distribution is awful and command of the area is iffy and you need to be more than a good shot stopper at Premier League level.

 

His distribution is definitely poor, but I don't think the personnel he has at his disposal to collect his distribution helps his cause.

[ImBlue]

His distribution is also so, so poor - it's statistically by far and away the worst of any 1st choice keeper in the league. People defend it because once a season or so we get a goal from it, but it really isn't worth it considering we're giving it straight back to the opposition or straight into touch the vast majority of times he plays the ball.

http://www.squawka.com/football-player-rankings#distribution#goalkeeper-stats#english-barclays-premier-league|season-2015/2016#all-teams#goalkeeper#16#44#0#0#90#08/08/2015#06/12/2015#season#1#all-matches#total#desc#total

This season his success rate of finding a Leicester player from goal kicks has been 29% and from kicks from his hand is 20% and still only 36% from other kicks (free-kicks etc.) which is literally shocking, pub level stuff..

He's a good shot stopper, but his distribution is awful and command of the area is iffy and you need to be more than a good shot stopper at Premier League level.

Can you not see the correlation between success and average length?

[whoareyaaa]

Yesterday Kasper was much better from set-pieces obviously something has been said in training as he was out almost every time, hopefully this will improve us even more.

 

he is a top quality keeper bar his commanding of the box he's critical to our success don't see any reason for a change he is our best No.1 and should remain that way.

 

he pulled off two quality saves yesterday and look his usual self.

[filbertway]

His distribution is also so, so poor - it's statistically by far and away the worst of any 1st choice keeper in the league. People defend it because once a season or so we get a goal from it, but it really isn't worth it considering we're giving it straight back to the opposition or straight into touch the vast majority of times he plays the ball.

 

http://www.squawka.com/football-player-rankings#distribution#goalkeeper-stats#english-barclays-premier-league|season-2015/2016#all-teams#goalkeeper#16#44#0#0#90#08/08/2015#06/12/2015#season#1#all-matches#total#desc#total

 

This season his success rate of finding a Leicester player from goal kicks has been 29% and from kicks from his hand is 20% and still only 36% from other kicks (free-kicks etc.) which is literally shocking, pub level stuff..

 

He's a good shot stopper, but his distribution is awful and command of the area is iffy and you need to be more than a good shot stopper at Premier League level.

 

We don't pass it out from the back though so we. I'm guessing De Gea, Mignolet, Cech and Lloris are right up there because they play it out from the back. Kasper is always looking to start an attack and get us up the pitch quickly. Sometimes it's not the correct decision, but that's one of the last things I'd want to remove from his game.

[Sampson]

Can you not see the correlation between success and average length?

 

We don't pass it out from the back though so we. I'm guessing De Gea, Mignolet, Cech and Lloris are right up there because they play it out from the back. Kasper is always looking to start an attack and get us up the pitch quickly. Sometimes it's not the correct decision, but that's one of the last things I'd want to remove from his game.

 

 

 

???

 

The average length is on there and while, yes, there are a few keepers like De Gea, Lloris and Fabianski who is notably less, because they play it out the back more often, the majority of the keepers is around the same as Schmeichel's and they still have far, far better success pass rates. Even so, I'd still want at the very least to be hitting 50:50 of success rate from long goal-kicks, not 29% ffs!

[ImBlue]

???

The average length is on there and while, yes, there are a few keepers like De Gea, Lloris and Fabianski who is notably less, because they play it out the back more often, the majority of the keepers is around the same as Schmeichel's and they still have far, far better success pass rates. Even so, I'd still want at the very least to be hitting 50:50 of success rate from long goal-kicks, not 29% ffs!

Surely his long kick success is often dependent on the guys winning it? For example, Mahrez, Kante, Drinkwater, Vardy, Okazaki and Albrighton. None of which are even 6ft. Okazaki is 5ft8, Kante 5ft6, Mahrez 5ft10 - Vardy the same.

Christ, did I have to point that out to you?

[Sampson]

Surely his long kick success is often dependent on the guys winning it? For example, Mahrez, Kante, Drinkwater, Vardy, Okazaki and Albrighton. None of which are even 6foot.

Christ, did I have to point that out to you?

 

But most of the time he doesn't even put it in positions of 50:50 challenges. He plays it out of play or straight to an unmarked opposition player so, so often and it's so frustrating.

 

And you make it sound like we have by far and away the smallest squad in the division where we can't even challenge opposition players in the air or something which we don't.

 

And that's even if he's only putting it in positions where there's 50:50 equal chance of our player or an opposition player of equal heading ability winning it, which a good distibutor obviously wouldn't try and do and they'd try and put it in positions where we're more likely to win the ball.

[americanfox]

But most of the time he doesn't even put it in positions of 50:50 challenges. He plays it out of play or straight to an unmarked opposition player so, so often and it's so frustrating.

 

And you make it sound like we have by far and away the smallest squad in the division where we can't even challenge opposition players in the air or something which we don't.

 

Would love to see the tagged results for this from Opta/Squawka. While I don't disagree with this, I have a feeling there's some recency/selection bias tilting these views a bit. Kasper's distribution isn't great but I don't know if he's truly awful, versus something that can be improved to decent enough.

[ImBlue]

But most of the time he doesn't even put it in positions of 50:50 challenges. He plays it out of play or straight to an unmarked opposition player so, so often and it's so frustrating.

And you make it sound like we have by far and away the smallest squad in the division where we can't even challenge opposition players in the air or something which we don't.

Of our main starting line up this season, none of the midfield and attack who would be getting onto the kicks, are over 6ft. Most not even near it.

It might be that his kicks have to be so accurate to hit the target rather than other keepers who can put it down the centre to a benteke, Murray, fletcher, lukaku, giroud, Costa, mitrovic etc.

Didn't his quick distribution start the move for the goal against United?

[Sampson]

Would love to see the tagged results for this from Opta/Squawka. While I don't disagree with this, I have a feeling there's some recency/selection bias tilting these views a bit. Kasper's distribution isn't great but I don't know if he's truly awful, versus something that can be improved to decent enough.

 

There's no recency bias, it's been clear his distribution has been poor and many have been saying as much since his first season here.

[Sampson]

Of our main starting line up this season, none of the midfield and attack who would be getting onto the kicks, are over 6ft. Most not even near it.

Didn't his quick distribution start the move for the goal against United?

 

And would a good distributor not still try and put it into situations where we're more likely to win it or even where 2 players are against each other? Schmiechel just doesn't, he puts it out of play or plays it straight to an unmarked opposition player the majority of the time.

 

Yes! And like I said, once  year or so we score from one and suddenly people start defending his distribution again, but it's just nowhere near a good enough return for how poor it is generally.

 

Do you not remember the Sven days where our tactic for a while was literally pass back to Schmeichel and hoof it long to Beckford and it didn't work and Schmeichel gave the ball away time after time and everyone was moaning about how awful we were and how it clearly wasn't working, but there was one goal (against Boro or Forest?) when it came off and suddenly everyone thought our tactic had "clicked" when history showed it really, really didn't?