StanSP Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 Some minor, some will have much more of an effect on a game. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3541963/IFAB-announce-law-changes-ahead-new-season-soften-punishment-fouls-inside-box-trial-video-technology.html
DB11 Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 This is the most significant changes to the laws between seasons that there has been in since pretty much the offside law was overhauled many years ago. This is going to be fun in the first few games of next season when players aren't aware of them
Captain... Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 Some sensible changes, but nothing really addressing the main issues, which is unclear definitions of the rules and the inevitable inconsistent application of the rules. One example is this concept of persistent fouling. We regular accept yellow cards on the basis of persistent fouling, yet this concept is not defined in the rules, it is at the referee's discretion which inevitably leads to inconsistency. A simple solution is say that 3/4/5 "accidental"/"inconsequential" fouls is a booking, regardless. You can't have some players booked for 3 fouls citing persistent fouling, yet other players in the same game get away with 4 or 5 without a booking. It would require a the ref to tally up the fouls, but this shouldn't be difficult for a ref, just a simple tally against the player on a teamsheet, or the 4th official could do it. I will be interested to see what the video ref does, with out clearly defined rules and so many decisions based on subjectivity then how can a video ref make a call that overrules the ref's decision, and how can the video ref have the same feel for the game from up there, you slow things down and look at countless replays you can easily see something different to the instinctive decision of the ref.
Larry_LCFC Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 IFAB: "At kick-off, the ball can now be kicked in any direction, including backwards so no team-mates allowed to stand in opponents' half" I don't get that one. Hows that different to now?
Captain... Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 IFAB: "At kick-off, the ball can now be kicked in any direction, including backwards so no team-mates allowed to stand in opponents' half" I don't get that one. Hows that different to now? Currently has to go forwards.
Larry_LCFC Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 Currently has to go forwards. Does it? I've never noticed tbh.
DB11 Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 You think the laws are applied inconsistently now? Well I can only imagine it will be far worse next season.... ! They've introduced a cop out called "Spirit of the game" which is pretty much that the referee can do what he wants if it's in the spirit of the game. You're losing 6-0 and handball it on the line for a penalty? Well that's always a red card isn't it? Nope in the spirit of the game now I'm not going to bother sending him off cos it's already 6-0 and near the end of the game IFAB: "At kick-off, the ball can now be kicked in any direction, including backwards so no team-mates allowed to stand in opponents' half" I don't get that one. Hows that different to now? Because currently the ball has to be kicked forward into the opponent's half, hence there are two players taking the kick off. Now you only need one player to take the kick off and he can kick it backwards to a midfielder/defender etc.
AKCJ Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 Gonna be weird not having two players taking a kick off. IFAB: "At kick-off, the ball can now be kicked in any direction, including backwards so no team-mates allowed to stand in opponents' half" I don't get that one. Hows that different to now? Ball has to be played forward from kickoff currently. It's why we often have two players. One to tap it forward and the other to pass it back.
Larry_LCFC Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 You think the laws are applied inconsistently now? Well I can only imagine it will be far worse next season.... ! They've introduced a cop out called "Spirit of the game" which is pretty much that the referee can do what he wants if it's in the spirit of the game. You're losing 6-0 and handball it on the line for a penalty? Well that's always a red card isn't it? Nope in the spirit of the game now I'm not going to bother sending him off cos it's already 6-0 and near the end of the game Because currently the ball has to be kicked forward into the opponent's half, hence there are two players taking the kick off. Now you only need one player to take the kick off and he can kick it backwards to a midfielder/defender etc. Why does that need changing though? Its been like that and work since football started...
StanSP Posted 9 May 2016 Author Posted 9 May 2016 This is the most significant changes to the laws between seasons that there has been in since pretty much the offside law was overhauled many years ago. This is going to be fun in the first few games of next season when players aren't aware of them More fool them, if this is the case. Since these were announced (April), they'll have 4 months to familiarise themselves. I'd be amazed if they aren't briefed and then reminded about it nearer the time. It's a poor excuse from a player if they say they aren't aware!
DB11 Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 Why does that need changing though? Its been like that and work since football started... Because some players and spectators (as you've already evidenced) weren't aware that the ball had to go forwards so in the event that it didn't, the referee would have to blow his whistle and have it retaken. This would cause people to think "ffs what a jobsworth just let us get on with it" well now we can just let you get on with it. It probably won't affect how teams take kick off but if you don't kick it forwards when passing it to your team mate it doesn't matter now
Captain... Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 You think the laws are applied inconsistently now? Well I can only imagine it will be far worse next season.... ! They've introduced a cop out called "Spirit of the game" which is pretty much that the referee can do what he wants if it's in the spirit of the game. You're losing 6-0 and handball it on the line for a penalty? Well that's always a red card isn't it? Nope in the spirit of the game now I'm not going to bother sending him off cos it's already 6-0 and near the end of the game Because currently the ball has to be kicked forward into the opponent's half, hence there are two players taking the kick off. Now you only need one player to take the kick off and he can kick it backwards to a midfielder/defender etc. Eurgh! Really? I didn't see that in the article, they can't do that surely, I would accept things like not playing injury time if it is already 5-0 and not being picky about where the a free kick is taken from, but rules need to be more tightly defined not less. Do you have link to anything on this?
Larry_LCFC Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 Because some players and spectators (as you've already evidenced) weren't aware that the ball had to go forwards so in the event that it didn't, the referee would have to blow his whistle and have it retaken. This would cause people to think "ffs what a jobsworth just let us get on with it" well now we can just let you get on with it. It probably won't affect how teams take kick off but if you don't kick it forwards when passing it to your team mate it doesn't matter now I see. Fair enough. Never seen it happen personally but you learn something new everyday.
ousefox Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 What's the point in the kickoff one? I know it doesn't mean much but 2 players at kickoff is a tradition for as long as I can remember.
davieG Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 What's the difference between a feint and a stutter? Why is one acceptable and the other not?
DB11 Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 Eurgh! Really? I didn't see that in the article, they can't do that surely, I would accept things like not playing injury time if it is already 5-0 and not being picky about where the a free kick is taken from, but rules need to be more tightly defined not less. Do you have link to anything on this? http://www.theifab.com/files/1%20-%20160412_laws-of-the-game-Digital_Print.pdf The relevant law is law 5: The Referee: Decisions will be made to the best of the referee`s ability according to the Laws of the Game and the ‘spirit of the game’ and will be based on the opinion of the referee who has the discretion to take appropriate action within the framework of the Laws of the Game. 'Spirit of the game' is defined as The main/essential principles/ethos of football It also states Referees are expected to use common sense and to apply the ‘spirit of the game’ when applying the Laws of the Game, especially when making decisions relating to whether a match takes place and/or continues.This is especially true for the lower levels of football where it may not always be possible for the Law to be strictly applied. So whatever it was meant to be introduced for the way it has been worded is such that referees can use it as a cop out of not doing what they're meant to.
leicsmac Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 Deliberate handball on line = booking and penalty goal. Get debating it IFAB, would be long past time.
Larry_LCFC Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 What's the difference between a feint and a stutter? Why is one acceptable and the other not? Is a feint penalty when they lay it off to someone else? I wondered the same.
DB11 Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 I think I will be using the 'spirit of the game' at grass roots to ignore players with different coloured undershorts or wrong coloured tape on socks
DB11 Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 'Dissent' ie. abusing the ref is now a direct free kick (it used to be indirect) so if your goalkeeper is screaming and swearing at the ref guess what.... he's just given a penalty away!
davieG Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 I think I will be using the 'spirit of the game' at grass roots to ignore players with different coloured undershorts or wrong coloured tape on socks Our fist Champions League game - jumpers for goal posts = spirit of the game
StanSP Posted 9 May 2016 Author Posted 9 May 2016 What's the point in the kickoff one? I know it doesn't mean much but 2 players at kickoff is a tradition for as long as I can remember. I wouldn't call it tradition. It's just been the rules. It's not gonna make a huge difference to the game as a whole. It's just one less player in the centre circle . What's the difference between a feint and a stutter? Why is one acceptable and the other not? I wasn't sure about this one either. 'Dissent' ie. abusing the ref is now a direct free kick (it used to be indirect) so if your goalkeeper is screaming and swearing at the ref guess what.... he's just given a penalty away! Kasper better be careful.
AKCJ Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 They've backed themselves into a corner with that 20 second treatment rule.
Larry_LCFC Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 They've backed themselves into a corner with that 20 second treatment rule. Is it twenty seconds from the medic running on or twenty seconds from beginning treatment? What a stupid rule. Players will deliberately keep doing it in the dying minutes to waste time and getting up after 19 seconds so they don't have to go off. Just kick the ****er off the pitch.
Beliall Posted 9 May 2016 Posted 9 May 2016 What's the difference between a feint and a stutter? Why is one acceptable and the other not? Feint Stutter More fifa vids than anything else in these searches
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