Adrien Silva

[TripAdvisor]

1 minute ago, STUHILL said:

All very interesting. I suppose the only real link we have is the "words" of Adrien Silva to a newspaper that is directly quoting him. If someone has just made these words up and impersonated Silva, that would be very strange, even if it was a rival paper. Not even our media would go as low as that. 

 

 

Really doubt about that. That newspaper has always been linked with another club, but is a very known one. That would be an extreme mistake by the newspaper, at a commercial and even ethic level.

One thing is to report something which could be totally wrong, like a transfer rumour.

Another one is to report what someone has said with it being completely false. Adrien would have said something if it wasnt true.

[guest1950]

1 hour ago, Sportingfan1 said:

Hey , another Sporting fan here .

Just to clarify Adrien didn't give any interview and didn't state anything . It was his agent that has done that interview about "it's time to move etc" 

His agent is the most interested in this negociation so that's why he wants the deal .

Agents and representatives of the athletes are factors of destabilization and pressure to the players

But if you want to buy players go buy benfica and porto's players . 

I can't stress this enough.

Do it!

 

Okay, let's talk about this guy. In five words, really, really, really hard working!

But he's got plenty of technique - not amazing but very good, or at least good for Prem level. Passing is his strong suit in what concerns technique and he has also become good at long shots and dribbling. Again, you won't really see a lot of screamers from Adrien and he won't get through entire defenses with the ball at his feet, but he can pull the bare minimums.

He's pretty smart, which amplifies his overall performance on the pitch. Physically he's average, he isn't particularly fast or strong and he won't win (m)any headers. What stands out in this area is his cardiorespiratory capacity - in other words, he's fit as a horse, so he can run 12k (I think that's 7.4 miles) during the 90 minutes.

One of his main attributes would be his tactical intelligence, which is what makes him a very useful player. He knows what spaces he needs to be at, so expect a lot of defensive and offensive support from him.

Defensively, I'll emphasize once more his amazing work ethic. It's what allows him to fight for the ball and always give 100% in every second of the match. His tackling and marking are, obviously, aided by his intelligence at reading the game, and he's got plenty of that.

 

That said, I hope he doesn't leave Sporting, or rather, I DON'T want him to leave, he's the f**king captain.

If he does move to Leicester, well... guess I'm going to get my best fox costume and make good use of it.

 

 

But I'll be expecting £34M so we can go get someone better than him.

[Sportingfan1]

19 minutes ago, TripAdvisor said:

I just don't know. Adrien's interview was quite weird and shocking to see, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's just a way to put some pressure on our board.

Its not like he did something completely new around here. He's not the first and won't be the last player doing so, because this board seems to be really hard to deal with.

 

Even Slimani skipped training 3 weeks ago because we were constantly rejecting offers. If we do not agree, we won't.

So I don't understand why we would release that official statement if the deal was done. Sporting fans are known for not being blind and we do see behind the curtains, trust me, you can read our recent history and how this board went through.

 

Bruma, for instance, was sold by €12M because he didn't want to renew his contract. There was a lot of pressure, a lot of his agents and family interviews on TV because the case was nuts. He wasn't even allowed to show up at Sporting facilities. A bit like Carrillo but with Bruma we made the deal.

 

Obviously in some cases we are just trying hard to get the most out of it. But here the most out of it is probably going to be his release clause, because we have no need to sell. Joao Mario was our biggest transfer income we ever got in the club's history.
It's all about priorities. We do not need to sell anymore, at least now.
Besides, our current manager has a wage of €6M per year. He's not just someone here in Portugal. He really got a word to say about this. And he already said.

Now, not sure about this, thats something yet to be confirmed, but in his contract (renewed on last May), was estabilished a clause to keep the best players here, because in Benfica he was always losing them in the end of the season. Matjic, Di Maria, Enzo Perez, Fabio Coentrao... And so on. He always gets the best out of his players. This clause said we could sell a key player without it being for the player clause fee. That player was Joao Mario (had a clause fee of €60M). Now, Slimani had a clause of €30M until the end of July, which has expired. That's why I thought we are selling him. Although he has no clause anymore (only on next July again), the offer value is the same as the clause, so I guess it's ok for the manager to sell him.

I just don't see it happen for Adrien, he won't let it happen. Neither our chairman. The board and the manager seem to be really agreeing about this kind of project for the club.

 

Although, there are some recent news in the portuguese press saying Adrien he's almost sold to you. But that our manager is saying that he is also leaving then.

 

Its becoming one hell of a soup opera.

"Even Slimani skipped training 3 weeks ago because we were constantly rejecting offers." False.

Slimani skipped one training because he had to deal with personal matters more precisely at the time of Ramadan and the Coach agreed.

[carcela_slb]

8 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

All very interesting. I suppose the only real link we have is the "words" of Adrien Silva to a newspaper that is directly quoting him. If someone has just made these words up and impersonated Silva, that would be very strange, even if it was a rival paper. Not even our media would go as low as that. 

 

Other than that, everything else points to this deal not happening. The chairman, the high release clause, the signing of a new contract in May and all the SP fans saying this won't happen. 

 

I am sure there will be a statement released by the player or the agent very soon if these were not his words, as all major media outlets have this and his quote as a top news story so if untrue, we will hear very soon from Adrien and Agent on the matter. Hopefully, all cleared up tomorrow, so we can move on to other targets if what you say is true.

 

 

First, I'm from Portugal but I'm not a fan of SCP.

 

I think it's clear the player wants to leave SCP because the salary will be much higher in England and the taxes are more favourable in the UK.

 

The president of SCP is known for this king of negotiation techniques, he wants to keep the player so he will only sell it for the release clause of forty five million euros.

 

I'm not sure LFC is ready to pay the release clause so I think the deal will very hard to do.

 

 

[guest1950]

Oh, we got a not-so-rare pokémon over here! How's it goin' @carcela_slb?

[Sportingfan1]

Just now, carcela_slb said:

First, I'm from Portugal but I'm not a fan of SCP.

 

I think it's clear the player wants to leave SCP because the salary will be much higher in England and the taxes are more favourable in the UK.

 

The president of SCP is known for this king of negotiation techniques, he wants to keep the player so he will only sell it for the release clause of forty five million euros.

 

I'm not sure LFC is ready to pay the release clause so I think the deal will very hard to do.

 

 

"I think it's clear the player wants to leave SCP" - False , Adrien said weeks ago he was well in Sporting.

What are you doing here anyways ? 

[HoustonFox]

A big thanks to all the SCP fans for coming on here an being very kind and sharing. I'd like to say it would be the other way round for players that are key to our team but frankly, I don't think we would be that humble.  

 

I'm actually watching a rerun of the SCP v Porto game that I taped last night.  Slimani was in bits during the prematach and he's running his socks off constantly.  I am really excited about the thought of him joining us and will hopefully wake up to good news (from a foxes point of view).

 

Onto Adrien Silva, he really is a metronome type of player.  Ticking the game over and getting involved with everything. It will be interesting to watch the next couple of days to see if he will join us too.  I really liked him in the Euros but he really reminds me of a Drinkwater type of player.  Lots of tidy passes, gets involved and a great passer, more than a driving powerhouse or super skillful beat a man type.  Two Danny Ds in the middle isn't so bad though! 

 

 

[TripAdvisor]

3 minutes ago, Sportingfan1 said:

"Even Slimani skipped training 3 weeks ago because we were constantly rejecting offers." False.

Slimani skipped one training because he had to deal with personal matters more precisely at the time of Ramadan and the Coach agreed.

I wouldnt be so sure about it. Thats what the board told us.

 

You gotta agree on this. We've been having a lot of issues with players concerning the market transfers and negotiating their contracts.

[DierIsATraitor]

6 minutes ago, guest1950 said:

Oh, we got a not-so-rare pokémon over here! How's it goin' @carcela_slb?

Chill dude, just ignore him.. .We all know Benfica's supporters have to come to every forum of teams associated to Sporting players, don't know exactly why... Curiously I never seen such a thing from Sporting fans or any others, but they're the ones that can explain why this happens... My guess is that they're more worried to what happens under our roof than about what happens under their own

[Sportingfan1]

3 minutes ago, TripAdvisor said:

I wouldnt be so sure about it. Thats what the board told us.

 

You gotta agree on this. We've been having a lot of issues with players concerning the market transfers and negotiating their contracts.

That was the oficial statement of the club.

Are you a fan of SCP ? Because if you are/aren't , don't lie.

[guest1950]

Just now, TripAdvisor said:

I wouldnt be so sure about it. Thats what the board told us.

 

You gotta agree on this. We've been having a lot of issues with players concerning the market transfers and negotiating their contracts.

It's just a bit of "growing pain". It's a good sign that our players want to go to the Premier League. It means that clubs in the Premier League want them.

 

Let's be on topic, yeah? We're also "off-forum", but the Hosts are polite so I guess we're welcome (for a while).

[carcela_slb]

3 minutes ago, Sportingfan1 said:

"I think it's clear the player wants to leave SCP" - False , Adrien said weeks ago he was well in Sporting.

What are you doing here anyways ? 

 

Let me clarify.

 

He wants to leave if the right offfer comes along.

 

LFC plays in the best league in the world and he is expected to earn much more.

 

I mean, he is not getting younger so this contract is a good way for him to move to a better league.

 

 

 

[guest1950]

2 minutes ago, carcela_slb said:

 

Let me clarify.

 

He wants to leave if the right offfer comes along.

 

LFC plays in the best league in the world and he is expected to earn much more.

 

I mean, he is not getting younger so this contract is a good way for him to move to a better league.

 

 

 

Also a great way to **** Sporting's chances of being champions this year... but I guess you have a different idea of our chances, right?

[Sportingfan1]

3 minutes ago, carcela_slb said:

 

Let me clarify.

 

He wants to leave if the right offfer comes along.

 

LFC plays in the best league in the world and he is expected to earn much more.

 

I mean, he is not getting younger so this contract is a good way for him to move to a better league.

 

 

 

"He wants to leave if the right offfer comes along." False . He said : In case there was a beneficial proposal for him and Sporting , they would sit at the table to discuss..

[STUHILL]

4 minutes ago, carcela_slb said:

 

Let me clarify.

 

He wants to leave if the right offfer comes along.

 

LFC plays in the best league in the world and he is expected to earn much more.

 

I mean, he is not getting younger so this contract is a good way for him to move to a better league.

 

 

 

Agreed. This could potentially be his last chance at a big money move. A 3 or 4 year 80-100k week deal that would take him into his 30's. He is at the peak age for a midfielder now and so may not get a better chance or offer again. I can see the appeal for him, although signing the new contract only in May, seems a bit odd UNLESS the chairman said that he could move if a Premier Team approached him, maybe that is why he assumes there will be a deal, but the chairman has now got no intention of selling him, after already making lots of money in this window from sales. 

 

 

[carcela_slb]

Just now, guest1950 said:

Also a great way to **** Sporting's chances of being champions this year... but I guess you have a different idea of our chances, right?

I think Sporting has a good chance of winning.

 

Hell, even Porto can win.

 

But of course selling Adrien will probably reduce your chances.

 

You will get the money, though.

[DierIsATraitor]

11 minutes ago, HoustonFox said:

A big thanks to all the SCP fans for coming on here an being very kind and sharing. I'd like to say it would be the other way round for players that are key to our team but frankly, I don't think we would be that humble.  

 

I'm actually watching a rerun of the SCP v Porto game that I taped last night.  Slimani was in bits during the prematach and he's running his socks off constantly.  I am really excited about the thought of him joining us and will hopefully wake up to good news (from a foxes point of view).

 

Onto Adrien Silva, he really is a metronome type of player.  Ticking the game over and getting involved with everything. It will be interesting to watch the next couple of days to see if he will join us too.  I really liked him in the Euros but he really reminds me of a Drinkwater type of player.  Lots of tidy passes, gets involved and a great passer, more than a driving powerhouse or super skillful beat a man type.  Two Danny Ds in the middle isn't so bad though! 

 

 

With all due respect but that's not exactly what happened. Bruno de Carvalho promised Adrien not to cut his legs off, but he never said that he won't look at Sporting's best interests... 25M€ offer is waaaay too low to be even considered, remember that we are just 1 or 2 days away from the market closing, and if Slimani leaves that makes 2 key players lost, we don't want to lose another one. That's something you guys should understand, since you are kind of in the same situation. 

You guys have the money to make an interesting offer if you really want to, you just need to understand that despite of what the player might want, he has a long-term contract that he signed just a few months ago, that gives the club the right to protect its own interests. I believe that any offer above 35M would be really hard to turn down, and that those are the values we would be willing to transfer the player. That's not an inside information in any way, just an opinion from someone who's well informed about the whole situation.

[carcela_slb]

11 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

Agreed. This could potentially be his last chance at a big money move. A 3 or 4 year 80-100k week deal that would take him into his 30's. He is at the peak age for a midfielder now and so may not get a better chance or offer again. I can see the appeal for him, although signing the new contract only in May, seems a bit odd UNLESS the chairman said that he could move if a Premier Team approached him, maybe that is why he assumes there will be a deal, but the chairman has now got no intention of selling him, after already making lots of money in this window from sales. 

 

 

Just one correction, the contract was signed in February.

 

And it seems he owned a percentage of his economic rights and the club bought his share and paid him a signing bonus.

 

[chapero82]

Our own fans seem to be winding Sporting up I really don't like this attitude some of us have! 

 

 

[STUHILL]

3 minutes ago, DierIsATraitor said:

With all due respect but that's not exactly what happened. Bruno de Carvalho promised Adrien not to cut his legs off, but he never said that he won't look at Sporting's best interests... 25M€ offer is waaaay too low to be even considered, remember that we are just 1 or 2 days away from the market closing, and if Slimani leaves that makes 2 key players lost, we don't want to lose another one. That's something you guys should understand, since you are kind of in the same situation. 

You guys have the money to make an interesting offer if you really want to, you just need to understand that despite of what the player might want, he has a long-term contract that he signed just a few months ago, that gives the club the right to protect its own interests. I believe that any offer above 35M would be really hard to turn down, and that those are the values we would be willing to transfer the player. That's not an inside information in any way, just an opinion from someone who's well informed about the whole situation.

 

Is is true that your club has a big debt to pay? I was wondering if that is why an agreement may be reached as I understand that you will want to keep your best players, but if there is pressure from other sources to balance your debts, maybe an offer of 50-55Million for Slimani and Silva (as reported) may be too difficult to turn down. I understand his release clause is a lot higher but with all due respect, I think it is too high for this player and unsure if you will ever have a better offer for him in the future and unlikely that the release clause will ever be met, with him closer to 30 and declining as years go on. Just a thought anyway and maybe why the chairman may eventually have some interest in selling, even if it is against the wishes of the fans. Money talks and debts often dictate what a club has to do to survive. 

[HoustonFox]

13 minutes ago, DierIsATraitor said:

With all due respect but that's not exactly what happened. Bruno de Carvalho promised Adrien not to cut his legs off, but he never said that he won't look at Sporting's best interests... 25M€ offer is waaaay too low to be even considered, remember that we are just 1 or 2 days away from the market closing, and if Slimani leaves that makes 2 key players lost, we don't want to lose another one. That's something you guys should understand, since you are kind of in the same situation. 

You guys have the money to make an interesting offer if you really want to, you just need to understand that despite of what the player might want, he has a long-term contract that he signed just a few months ago, that gives the club the right to protect its own interests. I believe that any offer above 35M would be really hard to turn down, and that those are the values we would be willing to transfer the player. That's not an inside information in any way, just an opinion from someone who's well informed about the whole situation.

Thanks for the quote but not sure you were replying to my post. I talked about you guys being great for sharing your opinions and then the relative attributes of each player and then how Slimani looked pretty emotional last night. 

 

Loving your club knowledge though and by your user name, guessing you aren't a Spurs fan!  

[DierIsATraitor]

1 minute ago, STUHILL said:

 

Is is true that your club has a big debt to pay? I was wondering if that is why an agreement may be reached as I understand that you will want to keep your best players, but if there is pressure from other sources to balance your debts, maybe an offer of 50-55Million for Slimani and Silva (as reported) may be too difficult to turn down. I understand his release clause is a lot higher but with all due respect, I think it is too high for this player and unsure if you will ever have a better offer for him in the future and unlikely that the release clause will ever be met, with him closer to 30 and declining as years go on. Just a thought anyway and maybe why the chairman may eventually have some interest in selling, even if it is against the wishes of the fans. Money talks and debts often dictate what a club has to do to survive. 

Our hope is that the player stays in Sporting until the end of his carreer. We'd prefer to sell William first, that has about the same market value as Adrien Silva.
It's your opinion and I have to respect him, but for me and a lot of Sporting fans Adrien is our most important player (Slimani 2nd) and 25M€ is too low to lose such an important key to our success. 

About the debt, it's true that Sporting (Porto and Benfica aswell) have a big debt to the banks. But what you don't know is that a few years ago we made a financial restructuring signed by Sporting chairmen and the 2 banks that we owe most of our money to, and they don't force us in any way to sell players. We only have to give them a percentage of our sells over 10M, but they have no way to force us or pressure us to do it faster. I should remember it's stil illegal to interfere/put pressure in any team's business or management. 
Also, the money that we will make with João Mário and Slimani is more than enough for us to live through the rest of the year with no worries.

I'm sorry man, but I'm pretty confident that Adrien won't come to your team for such a short ammount of money. 

[guest1950]

13 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

 

Is is true that your club has a big debt to pay? I was wondering if that is why an agreement may be reached as I understand that you will want to keep your best players, but if there is pressure from other sources to balance your debts, maybe an offer of 50-55Million for Slimani and Silva (as reported) may be too difficult to turn down. I understand his release clause is a lot higher but with all due respect, I think it is too high for this player and unsure if you will ever have a better offer for him in the future and unlikely that the release clause will ever be met, with him closer to 30 and declining as years go on. Just a thought anyway and maybe why the chairman may eventually have some interest in selling, even if it is against the wishes of the fans. Money talks and debts often dictate what a club has to do to survive. 

The bigger debts we have to pay (€55M) can be paid until 2026. I don't have any insight over that matter but I know that much. We only have to make another €2M... until the end of the season.

If you want to know, all of the clubs in Portugal have serious financial problems. The bigger the club, the bigger their 'debts'. Benfica generates a lot of money but rarely does their debt decrease. Sporting is getting back from its pitiful state from a feew years back, and this year we can make a lot more in sales than Benfica. Porto is the 'healthier' club. But I believe this year they were struggling a lot to keep up with FFP - how much money they needed, I don't know.

[DierIsATraitor]

8 minutes ago, HoustonFox said:

Thanks for the quote but not sure you were replying to my post. I talked about you guys being great for sharing your opinions and then the relative attributes of each player and then how Slimani looked pretty emotional last night. 

 

Loving your club knowledge though and by your user name, guessing you aren't a Spurs fan!  

 

Sorry, yeah it wasn't to your post... Was supposed to be to other user's post...

Anyway, yeah, definitely not a Spurs fan.. Dier was my favorite player back then, had big hope on him, but unfortunately the previous president of Sporting made a ridiculous clause in Dier's contract that allowed him to force his way out for such a short ammount. Big dissappointment. You guys can't imagine how bad Sporting was managed during more than 20  years, it's a miracle we're still alive. And a lot thanks to our current president, that's why we have such a big respect for him!

Slimani is an idol for me, probably the player that extracts more emotions out of me, no doubt that if you'll sign him it will be an amazing addition to your team! He never gives up, he's full of strenght and will, I'm sure you guys will love his posture on the pitch.

[guest1950]

2 minutes ago, DierIsATraitor said:

 

Sorry, yeah it wasn't to your post... Was supposed to be to other user's post...

Anyway, yeah, definitely not a Spurs fan.. Dier was my favorite player back then, had big hope on him, but unfortunately the previous president of Sporting made a ridiculous clause in Dier's contract that allowed him to force his way out for such a short ammount. Big dissappointment. You guys can't imagine how bad Sporting was managed during more than 20  years, it's a miracle we're still alive. And a lot thanks to our current president, that's why we have such a big respect for him!

Slimani is an idol for me, probably the player that extracts more emotions out of me, no doubt that if you'll sign him it will be an amazing addition to your team! He never gives up, he's full of strenght and will, I'm sure you guys will love his posture on the pitch.

And to show why we all love Slimani, here's him after the last match was over. That's true devotion. Super Slim!