RoyFox Posted 29 August 2016 Posted 29 August 2016 This is already getting ugly, shots fired now. We have to be so careful, p*ss off Sporting's President anymore and the Slimani deal could be pulled. However, this could all be posturing by Sporting, to project the image that they fought hard, making Adrien the 'scapegoat', therefore reducing animosity from the fans.
SheppyFox Posted 29 August 2016 Posted 29 August 2016 You know if one of our main boys said that in an interview I'd want the ****er gone asap anyway, don't feel any loyalty to footballers guys, they're all fickle and most of the worship the most dangerous God, money.
MPH Posted 29 August 2016 Posted 29 August 2016 You can't criticize the sporting chairman. In fact Kudos to him. He's fighting to keep his team together and will squeeze every last Euro out of us that he can and you have to admire him for that.
RoyFox Posted 29 August 2016 Posted 29 August 2016 10 minutes ago, SheppyFox said: You know if one of our main boys said that in an interview I'd want the ****er gone asap anyway, don't feel any loyalty to footballers guys, they're all fickle and most of the worship the most dangerous God, money. Adrien better watch his back around Lisbon now, you're right,we'd go mental if a player did this to us. But it does sound like a verbal agreement had been made between the player, agent and SCP. Unless it's written in stone, you'll always have issues though.
ARM1968 Posted 29 August 2016 Posted 29 August 2016 Stupidity isn't admirable. They need money. Both players seem to want to leave. Scuppering a deal by being unreasonable is just stupid. Negotiating quietly without flapping your your mouth and getting the best deal you can is admirable. This bloke is just being a petulant nob.
TheSomersetFox Posted 29 August 2016 Posted 29 August 2016 14 minutes ago, SheppyFox said: You know if one of our main boys said that in an interview I'd want the ****er gone asap anyway, don't feel any loyalty to footballers guys, they're all fickle and most of the worship the most dangerous God, money. The bloke's been there 15 years and wants a new challenge in a better league, and probably a bit more cash. I reckon he's probably paid his dues at Sporting, hardly disloyal.
Izzy Posted 29 August 2016 Posted 29 August 2016 58 minutes ago, WiFoxes said: One night should do it. I've heard that's all it takes, and the world's your oyster. I see what you do there. Very good One for the teenagers
urban.spaceman Posted 29 August 2016 Posted 29 August 2016 Sooo........ What have I missed since 11am?
STUHILL Posted 29 August 2016 Posted 29 August 2016 I just cannot believe a player would come out and say something like that and make it seem like a deal is pretty much done and not have had any word from the chairman or his agent, that this was likely to go through. Although, I think this chairman is known for being a bit of an oddball and perhaps he was promised a move to the Prem and presumed it would go through as soon as he heard of our interest and now the chairman is doing a 180 on that. Even so, signing a new deal a few months ago certainly doesn't help our cause! Hope we can get this one done but I prefer the Slimani deal more and although Silva seems a top player at what he does. I still feel that we need a more defensive type player to balance what we have with Drinky and his skill set. N'Zonzi is hopefully our plan B if we don't get this one done. I would be happy with either of course, as long as we aren't held to ransom by this chairman. Get Slimani done without pissing this dude off first, as the more I hear about him and his work rate and aerial threat, the more I am convinced he could be a great addition to our squad!
Hack Posted 30 August 2016 Posted 30 August 2016 4 hours ago, Paddy. said: Sorry but I don't get how it's our fault that Silva made a public comment? That was his personal choice? We haven't coerced him into it, he's spoken out before negotiations are completed- how is that Leicester creating bad feeling? Even if we were testing the water with him, it's Silva who has gone public. I reckon the words spoken by the chairman are for the press and fans of Sporting to make it look like all was done to keep the player and or get the best deal he could. The fact that Silva came out and said what he did and threw the chairman under bus saying he was told they won't stand in the way is why the chairman has come out with his statement. This is a done deal. Book it. We have 2 examples of high level speculation of players who were supposed to be leaving. Neither Vardy or Marhez made any type of statement about wanting to go etc, lots of press saying Marhez wanted to leave but nothing from the player himself. Adrien Silva is leaving Sporting and is likely to be a Fox in the next day or so. Fans can say what they want, but the player and captain of the team virtually has said goodbye to Portugal. This is the fact, not words from fans, chairmen, Agents etc. Expect Slimani and Silva in Leicester Blue.
Sportingfan1 Posted 30 August 2016 Posted 30 August 2016 Hey , another Sporting fan here . Just to clarify Adrien didn't give any interview and didn't state anything . It was his agent that has done that interview about "it's time to move etc" His agent is the most interested in this negociation so that's why he wants the deal . Agents and representatives of the athletes are factors of destabilization and pressure to the players But if you want to buy players go buy benfica and porto's players .
chapero82 Posted 30 August 2016 Posted 30 August 2016 5 minutes ago, Sportingfan1 said: Hey , another Sporting fan here . Just to clarify Adrien didn't give any interview and didn't state anything . It was his agent that has done that interview about "it's time to move etc" His agent is the more interested in this negociation so that's why he wants the deal . Agents and representatives of the athletes are factors of destabilization and pressure to the players But if you want to buy players go buy benfica and porto's players . There players aren't as good as yours though
z-layrex Posted 30 August 2016 Posted 30 August 2016 5 minutes ago, Sportingfan1 said: Hey , another Sporting fan here . Just to clarify Adrien didn't give any interview and didn't state anything . It was his agent that has done that interview about "it's time to move etc" His agent is the more interested in this negociation so that's why he wants the deal . Agents and representatives of the athletes are factors of destabilization and pressure to the players But if you want to buy players go buy benfica and porto's players . Nah we'll have these two, obrigado.
FuchingKante Posted 30 August 2016 Posted 30 August 2016 This has deadline day signing written all over it
Master Fox Posted 30 August 2016 Posted 30 August 2016 The club has no leverage in a deal like this. The player and his agent hold all the power. If a club is offering more money for wages it's a done deal.
Jon the Hat Posted 30 August 2016 Posted 30 August 2016 Lets not turn into Arsenal fans here lads. Sporting are a great club who will no doubt try to get the best deal for them. Fingers crossed, but this could be agent talk.
Sportingfan1 Posted 30 August 2016 Posted 30 August 2016 Being sincerely , the only player I think you're gonna get is Slimani.
Vlad the Fox Posted 30 August 2016 Posted 30 August 2016 21 minutes ago, Sportingfan1 said: Hey , another Sporting fan here . Just to clarify Adrien didn't give any interview and didn't state anything . It was his agent that has done that interview about "it's time to move etc" His agent is the most interested in this negociation so that's why he wants the deal . Agents and representatives of the athletes are factors of destabilization and pressure to the players But if you want to buy players go buy benfica and porto's players . Agents are the one big evil of the game.
Vardinio'sCat Posted 30 August 2016 Posted 30 August 2016 13 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: Lets not turn into Arsenal fans here lads. Sporting are a great club who will no doubt try to get the best deal for them. Fingers crossed, but this could be agent talk. this
TripAdvisor Posted 30 August 2016 Posted 30 August 2016 I just don't know. Adrien's interview was quite weird and shocking to see, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's just a way to put some pressure on our board. Its not like he did something completely new around here. He's not the first and won't be the last player doing so, because this board seems to be really hard to deal with. Even Slimani skipped training 3 weeks ago because we were constantly rejecting offers. If we do not agree, we won't. So I don't understand why we would release that official statement if the deal was done. Sporting fans are known for not being blind and we do see behind the curtains, trust me, you can read our recent history and how this board went through. Bruma, for instance, was sold by €12M because he didn't want to renew his contract. There was a lot of pressure, a lot of his agents and family interviews on TV because the case was nuts. He wasn't even allowed to show up at Sporting facilities. A bit like Carrillo but with Bruma we made the deal. Obviously in some cases we are just trying hard to get the most out of it. But here the most out of it is probably going to be his release clause, because we have no need to sell. Joao Mario was our biggest transfer income we ever got in the club's history. It's all about priorities. We do not need to sell anymore, at least now. Besides, our current manager has a wage of €6M per year. He's not just someone here in Portugal. He really got a word to say about this. And he already said. Now, not sure about this, thats something yet to be confirmed, but in his contract (renewed on last May), was estabilished a clause to keep the best players here, because in Benfica he was always losing them in the end of the season. Matjic, Di Maria, Enzo Perez, Fabio Coentrao... And so on. He always gets the best out of his players. This clause said we could sell a key player without it being for the player clause fee. That player was Joao Mario (had a clause fee of €60M). Now, Slimani had a clause of €30M until the end of July, which has expired. That's why I thought we are selling him. Although he has no clause anymore (only on next July again), the offer value is the same as the clause, so I guess it's ok for the manager to sell him. I just don't see it happen for Adrien, he won't let it happen. Neither our chairman. The board and the manager seem to be really agreeing about this kind of project for the club. Although, there are some recent news in the portuguese press saying Adrien he's almost sold to you. But that our manager is saying that he is also leaving then. Its becoming one hell of a soup opera.
DierIsATraitor Posted 30 August 2016 Posted 30 August 2016 Greetings from Portugal guys! Today's newspappers are getting leaked soon and I'll try to update you about what's being said in the covers... Basically we have 3 newspappers dedicated to football, one of them is already leaked and said that Adrien isn't leaving unless someone pays 45M. (Also says that the player wants to leave the team, but SCP is resisting). About Slimani they say he's in Argelia but his next destination is England. Cheers. Edit: Second one leaked, says that SCP president refused 25M from Leicester, and that they want 45M. Also says that WBA tried William Carvalho but offer also refused. About Slimani they say that deal is not closed yet.
chapero82 Posted 30 August 2016 Posted 30 August 2016 2 minutes ago, DierIsATraitor said: Greetings from Portugal guys! Today's newspappers are getting leaked soon and I'll try to update you about what's being said in the covers... Basically we have 3 newspappers dedicated to football, one of them is already leaked and said that Adrien isn't leaving unless someone pays 45M. (Also says that the player wants to leave the team, but SCP is resisting). About Slimani they say he's in Argelia but his next destination is England. Cheers. Thankyou, you are most kind
STUHILL Posted 30 August 2016 Posted 30 August 2016 All very interesting. I suppose the only real link we have is the "words" of Adrien Silva to a newspaper that is directly quoting him. If someone has just made these words up and impersonated Silva, that would be very strange, even if it was a rival paper. Not even our media would go as low as that. Other than that, everything else points to this deal not happening. The chairman, the high release clause, the signing of a new contract in May and all the SP fans saying this won't happen. I am sure there will be a statement released by the player or the agent very soon if these were not his words, as all major media outlets have this and his quote as a top news story so if untrue, we will hear very soon from Adrien and Agent on the matter. Hopefully, all cleared up tomorrow, so we can move on to other targets if what you say is true.
DierIsATraitor Posted 30 August 2016 Posted 30 August 2016 Sure, you guys are treating SCP with much respect so you deserve our help, if the players will leave I hope it will be to Foxes! Second one already leaked and I edited my previous post, third one only in about 1h...
DierIsATraitor Posted 30 August 2016 Posted 30 August 2016 1 minute ago, STUHILL said: All very interesting. I suppose the only real link we have is the "words" of Adrien Silva to a newspaper that is directly quoting him. If someone has just made these words up and impersonated Silva, that would be very strange, even if it was a rival paper. Not even our media would go as low as that. Other than that, everything else points to this deal not happening. The chairman, the high release clause, the signing of a new contract in May and all the SP fans saying this won't happen. I am sure there will be a statement released by the player or the agent very soon if these were not his words, as all major media outlets have this and his quote as a top news story so if untrue, we will hear very soon from Adrien and Agent on the matter. Hopefully, all cleared up tomorrow, so we can move on to other targets if what you say is true. Adrien is with National team right now, not sure if he will be able to say anything about the subject in the next few days. It would be great to have him saying anything new to clarify the situation. Anyway, the first newspapper I quoted in my first post was the same newspapper that Adrien allegedly said those words everyone keeps talking about. I honestly have no idea of what's actually going on, and everyone is a bit lost with this cuz the player in May said he'd only leave Sporting after winning the championship, but we all know how this works, and you guys can pay him in 1 year the same ammount of money he'd win in 4 years playing for us... In my personal opinion can't judge him for wanting to pursue a better life in England. I'm eternally grateful to him for what he did for our team no matter what happens.
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