NotTheMarketLeader Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/11/22/earth-has-happened-leicester-city-premier-league-season/amp/?client=safari Nothing we don't know but a decent article I think. I'm hoping CR already knows this
Munshi Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 Pretty much spot on, shows how badly we've missed Kante and how Drinkwater and Amartey cannot play together.
Countryfox Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 Journalistic masterclass .. closely mark Mahrez ... AND ... we are REALLY missing someone in the midfield. This chaps done his homework. Lets hope CR reads it but then again according to other threads he'll be out before long. And if I was the manager I'd drop Mahrez (that would fool em) and get a TOP TOP defensive midfielder in. Easy this football lark.
Monsell1976 Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 Yeah can accept that, prettt fair, if a journalist can spot this, why can't our highly paid management team, and put it right.
KingKante Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 That's a very detailed analysis i hope Ranieri reads this and changes our system accordingly
foxy boxing Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 maybe it needs outside influence to see what is going on, if your on the outside and not in the foxes bubble as it were you can see with an unbiased perspective and make a non judgmental call as to how things are.
Countryfox Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 8 minutes ago, Monsell1976 said: Yeah can accept that, prettt fair, if a journalist can spot this, why can't our highly paid management team, and put it right. 5 minutes ago, KingKante said: That's a very detailed analysis i hope Ranieri reads this and changes our system accordingly Perhaps we should make this journalist manager when we sack Ranieri.
Buzzell Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 I'm sure Ranieri is aware of the problem. Even though he always says he has faith in the current squad there's no doubt we need strengthening in centre midfield and defence.
Countryfox Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 2 minutes ago, buzzer_b said: I'm sure Ranieri is aware of the problem. Even though he always says he has faith in the current squad there's no doubt we need strengthening in centre midfield and defence. Thank you ... I was beginning to feel a bit lonely on this thread.
Guest Lako42 Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 36 minutes ago, KingKante said: That's a very detailed analysis i hope Ranieri reads this and changes our system accordingly Hang on a minute. You actually want our highly experienced football manager to change our/his approach approach based on a journalists analysis? Now we all want changes, sure, but effectively you are saying this bloke knows more about our team than it's manager, which is a little bit absurd isn't it.
Monsell1976 Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 20 minutes ago, Countryfox said: Perhaps we should make this journalist manager when we sack Ranieri. I like Claudio and want him to turn this around, I just wish he would see what is clear to see, and adapt accordingly, before we are deep in the shite, and the owners look at other options, as like I say, I like Claudio
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 It's all true, basically we need to be able to play in a diffferent way and get in the personnel to do so now everyone and their dog know how we play - we should have done so in summer but I'm sure we will do in Jan and will be fine! Either that or people will go back to underestimating us soon!
KingKante Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 20 minutes ago, Lako42 said: Hang on a minute. You actually want our highly experienced football manager to change our/his approach approach based on a journalists analysis? Now we all want changes, sure, but effectively you are saying this bloke knows more about our team than it's manager, which is a little bit absurd isn't it. That is correct
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 Great article, highlights how 2 in the middle away from home isn't working for us. We must go three in the middle with 2 sitting to protect this and then play our quickest attacking players up top to allow us to break at speed. King could play as an 8/10, and Drinky / Amartey / James / Mendy / whoever is fit could sit.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 Interresting analysis. But there is one little problem, the journalist seems to have overlooked: last season, with Kante, we conceded in the first 12 games exactly as many goals as this season. Not a single goal less. 20 last season. 20 this season. 20 with Kante. 20 without Kante. ???
DelBoy73 Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 Claudio is already aware of the situation, as any manager on a £3M pay-roll would. Why on earth has he not come up yet with an alternate formation or game-plan to suit the weaknesses & strengths of our actual squad is alarming though.
ZeGuy Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 1 hour ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/11/22/earth-has-happened-leicester-city-premier-league-season/amp/?client=safari Nothing we don't know but a decent article I think. I'm hoping CR already knows this If you, me or a journalist can spot this, you bet a guy with 30 years experience as coach would kinda notice it too, don't you think? Mendy's injury wasn't planned and left the team with Amartey as Kanté's replacement. IMO if he didn't change his formation, it's surely because he thinks he hasn't the adequate players to or that they're not ready right now. I saw a lot of people thinking that by putting a player more on the midfield it would solve the issue. Playing 4-4-2 is more different than a 4-3-3 or a 3-5-2, every player has to relearn where his place on the pitch is, who he should cover, to whom he should pass etc. Habits have to change and this takes time. When you have very good players or players used to another system, the learning curve is shorter. If not, well it might never work at all. My money is on january. A CM will come, I can't see it not happening.
Marshall Cockney Fox Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 That's pretty scathing of our midfield with a certain young man described as "ineffectual". Marking space rather than a man I.e. watching the game rather than be active in it. That is totally spot on and what I posted after Watford. Please do something tonight Claudio. Earn your salary sir?
ZeGuy Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 9 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: Interresting analysis. But there is one little problem, the journalist seems to have overlooked: last season, with Kante, we conceded in the first 12 games exactly as many goals as this season. Not a single goal less. 20 last season. 20 this season. 20 with Kante. 20 without Kante. ??? Stats are meaningless without context. This one particularly when you consider that With Kanté: 267 interceptions. Without Kanté: 174 (12 games) With Kanté: 22.9 tackles per game (whole season). Without Kanté: 16.7 (so far) That made you win the games.
lgfualol Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 God we suck now January can't come soon enough.
Guest Col city fan Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 Hmmmmm. Finally saying what I've been trying to say about Amartey for weeks. The defensive cover for the back four (or lack of it) and the lack of any midfield threat going forward is a major major issue, amongst many other players just not pulling their weight. Good article.
DelBoy73 Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 2 minutes ago, ZeGuy said: I saw a lot of people thinking that by putting a player more on the midfield it would solve the issue. Play 4-4-2 is more different than a 4-3-3 or a 3-5-2, every player has to relearn where his place on the pitch is, who he should cover, to whom he should pass etc. This takes a lot of time. When you have very good players or players used to another system, the learning curve is shorter. If not, well it might never work at all. Actually : not. Players are taught since their early youth to play within most of the common systems; thus it is not a question of learning the system but rather of efficiency of the players in their new positions. Switching form a 4-4-2 formation to a 4-5-1 system will not impact the output of Huth,Fuchs or Albrighton; while the likes of Drinkwater, Amartey, King and Mahrez will have to adapt to new patterns of play.
ZeGuy Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 Just now, DelBoy73 said: Actually : not. Players are taught since their early youth to play within most of the common systems; thus it is not a question of learning the system but rather of efficiency of the players in their new positions. Switching form a 4-4-2 formation to a 4-5-1 system will not impact the output of Huth,Fuchs or Albrighton; while the likes of Drinkwater, Amartey, King and Mahrez will have to adapt to new patterns of play. "Adapt to the new patterns" is the right way to put it and efficiency is the crucial point. Especially at this level of performance. All I wanted to say is that CR isn't sticking to the actual system because he isn't aware of the obvious issues but more because of practical reasons.
Dan Posted 22 November 2016 Posted 22 November 2016 Good article. Backs up what I've said all season pretty much. Amartey is a weak link unfortunately.
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