Summer signing failures and league position

[crazyleicester]

Everyone becomes an expert after the event. The two CBs who helped win us the title would have been instantly replaced by some. Why?!! Crazy!! We went in for Michael Keane as a young lad to play some game and learn from the bruts of Morgan and Huth. Unfortunately, Burnley played hard ball and we didnt want to be held to ransom. Unfortunately Huth and Morgan arent as effective without Kante screening them and they like most of our squad have under-performed. Hernandez came for free and I remember that Guillem balague dude from Sky say that Leicester have added a solid central defender to their ranks. Unfortunately he hasnt quite adapted as we had hoped.

 

In Midfield we had Gray as a back up to the wingers and added another youngster in Kapustka, again one for the future. We held on to Mahrez and sold Kante because he wanted out and had a release clause. We bought in Mendy who has been injured and tried to sign Silva from Sporting Lisbon. Again, they wanted crazy money which we didnt want to pay and why should we. We also held on to England International Danny Drinkwater. Had we been most "average to small" clubs half our squad would have left. Once again, unfortunately this season we have had injuries, suspensions and mega players like Mahrez play like turd. You cant account for that.

 

Up front most of us thought despite his work rate Okazaki didnt score enough. We spent 15m on Musa and 30m on Slimani. We also kept Ulloa. We importantly kept another England international in Vardy. That pool of strikers would be amongst the best in the division. Once again unfortunately the likes of Vardy isnt getting the service and when he gets chances largely snaps at them. Look at Musa v Barcelona BTW. We all thought we had a superstar on our hands but how many times has he played up top by himself and how many times have we put him through?

 

Overall our signings have done largely what last seasons squad have done this season, under performed. We can be guilty of having too many options up front and looking to play players out of position to accommodate but the signings cant be deemed as being poor. Zieler is another who has done OK but not come in and set the world alight. 

 

It isnt about the new signings, it about last seasons lot playing like turd.

[Fox92]

1 minute ago, Struwwelpeter60 said:

As far as I know, Hernandez hails from Spain.

And we continue to play him out of position

[Trav Le Bleu]

Love how everyone was slavering over our new signings at the start of the season, but are now saying or scouts didn't do their job properly.

[funkyrobot]

19 minutes ago, noodles said:

new signings take time to settle, we wont see the best of them until next season

 

this season was always going to be difficult, never going to live up to last season

 

we have to suck it up, no time for bed wetting, we need to be behind the manager and players, we owe them that after last season.

Surely at least one of them would've stepped up by now though. I don't know many signings at the prices we've paid for Slim, Musa, Mendy that would be allowed to write their first season's off. None of us expected to win the league this year, we did expect a strengthening of the team though and I can't say that we've done that. We've got more players overall but they appear to have help weaken our team rather than strengthen it.

[hamptonfox]

This is the most sensible thread I have read. 

 

Dont play anyone signed in summer 2016, they aren't good enough. 

 

The recruiters must have been on the pop celebrating too much, and thought they were geniuses who never get it wrong.

 

Loan all of the summer 2016 signings out in January, and sell them in July, for what we can get.

 

Bring in enough in January to get clear and out of the bottom 6, and build again, next summer.

 

 

[funkyrobot]

5 minutes ago, crazyleicester said:

Everyone becomes an expect after the event. The two CBs who helped win us the title would have been instantly replaced by some. Why?!! Crazy!! We went in for Michael Keane as a young lad to play some game and learn from the bruts of Morgan and Huth. Unfortunately, Burnley played hard ball and we didnt want to be held to ransom. Unfortunately Huth and Morgan arent as effective without Kante screening them and they like most of our squad have under-performed. Hernandez came for free and I remember that Guillem balague dude from Sky say that Leicester have added a solid central defender to their ranks. Unfortunately he hasnt quite adapted as we had hoped.

 

In Midfield we had Gray as a back up to the wingers and added another youngster in Kapustka, again one for the future. We held on to Mahrez and sold Kante because he wanted out and had a release clause. We bought in Mendy who has been injured and tried to sign Silva from Sporting Lisbon. Again, they wanted crazy money which we didnt want to pay and why should we. We also held on to England International Danny Drinkwater. Had we been most "average to small" clubs half our squad would have left. Once again, unfortunately this season we have had injuries, suspensions and mega players like Mahrez play like turd. You cant account for that.

 

Up front most of us thought despite his work rate Okazaki didnt score enough. We spent 15m on Musa and 30m on Slimani. We also kept Ulloa. We importantly kept another England international in Vardy. That pool of strikers would be amongst the best in the division. Once again unfortunately the likes of Vardy isnt getting the service and when he gets chances largely snaps at them. Look at Musa v Barcelona BTW. We all thought we had a superstar on our hands but how many times has he played up top by himself and how many times have we put him through?

 

Overall our signings have done largely what last seasons squad have done this season, under performed. We can be guilty of having too many options up front and looking to play players out of position to accommodate but the signings cant be deemed as being poor. Zieler is another who has done OK but not come in and set the world alight. 

 

It isnt about the new signings, it about last seasons lot playing like turd.

If you think Zieler's done ok you have low expectations. 

[fuchsntf]

I just wish, posters would get off the new buys backs..They were never going to make us into unbeatables.

 

New buys you hope to bring in to improve the team, from its then present level, but if the major original players

cant keep up their form, to an even average level, then no new buy will, carry them through.

I am  sure, but unfortunately cant prove it, if our summer buys were playing in a top 12 team, we would be

assessing and judging them differently.

They would have fitted in better and Claudio and fans wouldnt feel the stress.

 

We all feared it might go this way, that our oldish defence, might not hold up,even totter or the midfield,

with or without Kante, might not step up from the following season.

I dont see , how much we could of done on buys, that would of  improved the then present staff, to hold form.

Our failure is the lack of intensity and really poor performances , from the vets, not the summer buys.. 

 

The club in my view, should not of dispersed of Moores/Benalounes  and RDL services, without finding 1st team

possible replacements...It was obvious in my mind that we needed cover 1st for the 2 CBs, with eventual replacement qualities.

Hernandez, wasnt enough.Wasi I wanted to keep for cover, for the  cover, he deserved this season.

We have no natural CB coming through the ranks.Chillie is the only defender we have who is our only home grown defender,

who has any present and immediate future.

If a team is under performing over months like we are, then the  players like Kapu, has to be shown respect and put into the danger

zone, and given their wings, to see if they have potential...they cant be worse, than the heavy thrashings, or the '0' s we have played

to. ..One other thing, I dont ride along with the critic surrounding Mahrez, the players sre not supporting him, forget his defensive

duties and his supporting the defence roll, we should as a team be defending his space, and support..HIM.

If you'r translating and using  the small percentage of possesion we have with success, like last season, it looks great, but our escapades

moving forward this year, have unfortunately lacked consistency in intent, and success.We are not delivering that needed pressure has before.

 

In short..for PL standards our boys from last season are poor, so no base for the newbies, to find rythm or form

 

 

[crazyleicester]

Just now, funkyrobot said:

If you think Zieler's done ok you have low expectations. 

GKs are usually judged on clangers. I cant think of many Zieler has had if any. He doesnt do what many keepers do like Kasper or some of the others in the Prem like I can see watching MOTD tonight like Pickford at Sunderland who makes countless saves but he doesnt make errors. Thats why I used the word OK. I do prefer my GK being a game saver though and Zieler isnt that unfortunately but no one can say he has cost us games.

[BenTheFox]

I wanted Deeney, N'Zonzi and a decent young centre back. What we ended up with was very underwhelming. The club have spent good money. No problem with the that. I just felt like it was better spent elsewhere. I mean did we really need Slimani, Musa and Kaputska when we'd lost our best ever midfielder? Are we really asking Morgan and Huth to play every game of the season? Felt like we signed too many players we wanted as oppose to ones we actually needed (if that makes sense?). 

[Struwwelpeter60]

4 minutes ago, crazyleicester said:

GKs are usually judged on clangers. I cant think of many Zieler has had if any. He doesnt do what many keepers do like Kasper or some of the others in the Prem like I can see watching MOTD tonight like Pickford at Sunderland who makes countless saves but he doesnt make errors. Thats why I used the word OK. I do prefer my GK being a game saver though and Zieler isnt that unfortunately but no one can say he has cost us games.

Schmeichel didn't make any saves today. We lost 0:2.

Does that mean, his performance was a poor one?

[crazyleicester]

Just now, Struwwelpeter60 said:

Schmeichel didn't make any saves today. We lost 0:2.

Does that mean, his performance was a poor one?

Im not sure how you put two and two together and got eight fella.

 

I said Zieler has been OK. Someone quoted me stating that I have low expectations saying Zieler has been OK, suggesting he hasnt quite been OK for us. Im sticking up for Zieler as I cant see him making many mistakes and in fact he saves most of the shots we expect but doesnt seem to save many where he is 2nd favourite to save. Kasper today had very little to do but couldnt pull off the saves when he was second favourite to do so. Im not blaming Kasper but what I will say is that from what I have seen, Kasper has made quite a few saves that Zieler hasnt. KS is a better keeper because of it.

[funkyrobot]

6 minutes ago, crazyleicester said:

GKs are usually judged on clangers. I cant think of many Zieler has had if any. He doesnt do what many keepers do like Kasper or some of the others in the Prem like I can see watching MOTD tonight like Pickford at Sunderland who makes countless saves but he doesnt make errors. Thats why I used the word OK. I do prefer my GK being a game saver though and Zieler isnt that unfortunately but no one can say he has cost us games.

He's not saved us points. He's not improved the squad from last year. He's not shown yet that he's any better than Schwarzer or Hamer. On paper he might have a great reputation but like Slim, Mendy, Musa, as of yet none of them have improved the team. 

[Blanchflower78]

Recruitment killed it for us and massively inflated wages removed hunger. Not sure if the latter was as easy to rectify but recruitment was. Had a chance to put a marker down given the profile lift and failed miserably. Real shame.

[The Horse's Mouth]

said at the time adrien should be a number one priority over the lampost 

[crazyleicester]

Just now, funkyrobot said:

He's not saved us points. He's not improved the squad from last year. He's not shown yet that he's any better than Schwarzer or Hamer. On paper he might have a great reputation but like Slim, Mendy, Musa, as of yet none of them have improved the team. 

Hes improved the squad IMO. Whenever Hamer or Schwartzer appear I feel a clanger is around the corner. Improving the team? No he hasnt done that. But ask Klopp if his German recruit has improved things in goal! As for the rest, Mendy has been injured, Musa played on the left and needs to play in the Vardy role and Slim has done OK considering our midfield lack quality and creativity. Slimani hasnt missed a load of chances IMO to warrant him a poor signing, he just isnt getting the chances. The midfield need to start creating and if players miss chances we can call them poor.

[Struwwelpeter60]

5 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

I wanted Deeney, N'Zonzi and a decent young centre back.

And I always wanted a unicorn.

 

The club was willing to pay 30m for Deeney.

30m !!!!!!

For TROY DEENEY !!!!!!

 

We are truly living in a crazy world.

That's for sure.

[AmarteyAndChill]

Why didn't we get Idrissa Gana Gueye...?

[BenTheFox]

1 minute ago, Struwwelpeter60 said:

And I always wanted a unicorn.

 

The club was willing to pay 30m for Deeney.

30m !!!!!!

For TROY DEENEY !!!!!!

 

We are truly living in a crazy world.

That's for sure.

It is mad, you're right. So we didn't sign Deeney because that's a massive fee for him, but we didn't sign a similar type of player. For me Slimani isn't that similar to Deeney. Deeney is playing predominantly like a number 10 at Watford, whereas Slimani is more of an out and out Striker. 

[The Horse's Mouth]

6 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said:

And I always wanted a unicorn.

 

The club was willing to pay 30m for Deeney.

30m !!!!!!

For TROY DEENEY !!!!!!

 

We are truly living in a crazy world.

That's for sure.

we've spent 30 mill on a lampost, should've just paid it 

[BenTheFox]

A proven midfielder was the biggest miss though in my opinion. That and a central defender. I would have accepted a good striker from the championship like Britt Assombalonga (just an example) as backup to Vardy and spent the larger portion on a CM and CB. 

[funkyrobot]

5 minutes ago, crazyleicester said:

Hes improved the squad IMO. Whenever Hamer or Schwartzer appear I feel a clanger is around the corner. Improving the team? No he hasnt done that. But ask Klopp if his German recruit has improved things in goal! As for the rest, Mendy has been injured, Musa played on the left and needs to play in the Vardy role and Slim has done OK considering our midfield lack quality and creativity. Slimani hasnt missed a load of chances IMO to warrant him a poor signing, he just isnt getting the chances. The midfield need to start creating and if players miss chances we can call them poor.

Zieler hasn't saved us any points, Mendy has been fit for weeks but doesn't get any game time. Musa was overlooked for the Vardy role today and wasn't even brought on later so can't be impressing Ranieri. Slimani isn't showing himself as a £30 million player. I would expect him to be able to create some chances on his own. If he's that limited in technique and movement that he'll only score or contribute when he's given a specific type of service then he's less effective than Ulloa and doesn't improve our team. If the style of play of our new outfield players isn't suited to how we play then why did we sign them? I do hope they do step up but as it stands they haven't made us a better team.

[Struwwelpeter60]

4 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

we've spent 30 mill on a lampost, should've just paid it 

We were willing to pay it. But Watford didn't let him go.

And thanks to the fact, that most PL clubs are swimming

in TV-money, they were in no need to sell.

[AmarteyAndChill]

Thomas Delaney and Idrissa Gana Gueye.

[ZeGuy]

45 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said:

Schmeichel didn't make any saves today. We lost 0:2.

Does that mean, his performance was a poor one?

If it was Zieler, you can bet your life on FT posters blaming him for not stopping those shots.

In short and for the same game:

Kasper 7/10 Nothing he could do on both goals (which is true).

Zieler: 1/10 Appalling. Shite goalkeeper. How the fvck did he let those two weak shots go in? Where's Kasper? WHERE'S KASPER?

[Struwwelpeter60]

4 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

Mendy has been fit for weeks but doesn't get any game time. Musa was overlooked for the Vardy role today and wasn't even brought on later so can't be impressing Ranieri.

Mendy played at Porto. Musa played at Porto.

Both were poor.