Soup Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 4 hours ago, Col city fan said: Well where then? You think it'll make a difference on here? I have literally no idea what you are on about. No, the team and the club have got us into this mess and a simple 'get behind em' makes no difference. Why? Because we were anyway. A much more interesting thread would have been along the lines of 'do you think the fans have been behind the team and, if not, has that affected their performances'? That might have evoked some debate. Instead we get a Churchillian 'we're all in it together'. Tell that to the players this season. To say that getting behind the team makes NO difference is just laughable. You could argue how much difference, but it does make a difference. You said this thread could've been more interesting and envoked more debate. Well I think we can all agree that debating our atmosphere will 100% NOT give anything to the team. It's seems you like a debate and from what I've read you're pretty good at it. But Col if someone wants to stand on his own and sing and chant for the team he is always doing more than anyone writing pages and pages in here.
Guest Col city fan Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 25 minutes ago, The soup nazi said: To say that getting behind the team makes NO difference is just laughable. You could argue how much difference, but it does make a difference. You said this thread could've been more interesting and envoked more debate. Well I think we can all agree that debating our atmosphere will 100% NOT give anything to the team. It's seems you like a debate and from what I've read you're pretty good at it. But Col if someone wants to stand on his own and sing and chant for the team he is always doing more than anyone writing pages and pages in here. I just don't buy it mate though I see on here, as usual, it's making no difference. The OP seemed to be implying that the positivity of the fans could make some difference to our slide down the table and to our level of performance. At the ground and on social media. I've argued this on a number of grounds. Firstly, the positivity has been there nearly all season. It was bound to be. We'd just been crowned Champions. In fact, the whole world was probably more positive about LCFC than ever it had been before. So it's difficult to argue that our rubbish league campaign is based upon 'negativity'. It isn't. We've continued to fill the KP and continued to take big away followings. 5000 to Derby in the cup, no less. Secondly, I suggested that modern footballers are not too bothered about us fans. We don't pay their wages anymore. That's covered by hugely rich chairmen and owners. Do you think that Drinkwater suddenly puts in an extra shift because he's aware the crowd have gone a bit quiet, or that Kante might be upset because of what City fans have written about him. A lot of it really vile stuff btw. I doubt it. No, our downfall is not due to any concept of negativity, nor a lack of support from our loyal fans. I think we still have some of the best away support we could ever hope to have. It's about dodgy signings, a lack of motivation on the part of the players, bizarre line ups, strange tactics and poor recruitment. Sure, sing all you want to. Chant loudly. Write positive comments in social media. Do all of this if it makes you feel better. But don't imagine it's going to lift us out of the mess we are in, in the league campaign. Only the manager and the players can do that. I shan't reply anymore on this thread. I'm sure it will evolve into another Col is being awkward type thing and a ban will surely loom once more. But I'm writing what I believe to be true.
Guest Bob Hazels shorts Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 On a positive side. Teams will no longer think they need to raise their game to play against us. Players need a massive kick up the arse. Those lording it will rub off on any new players who'll understandably want a slice of that. Claudio is not the type, his tact could be more emotional and point out that he stood by them, how about a bit of effort or i'm for the bullet.
Johnthefoxrayner Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 On 01/02/2017 at 15:08, Stevosevic said: Yep, nothing to gain from turning on them. Support is needed. Agreed
sly1 Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 We have been doing think players should get behind us lazy gits how much they on c,mongone from hero's to zero.
Mike Oxlong Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 I want to get behind the team, not just because it helps the players but because it makes the whole match day experience that much more enjoyable. But the players also have to help us help them.
RonnieTodger Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 It doesn't take much to ignite a bit of spark. Any real devotion, a strong tackle or a driving run and people will be back on-side straight away. Obviously as fans we have a duty to support them no matter what, but they've got to show some real desire too.
Mike Oxlong Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 Players are so fortunate.. Not just the financial rewards but the adulation for being competent or good at their job. I've yet to convince my work colleagues to clap, cheer or sing songs praising me when I perform my contractual duties.
Guest CityFan 06 Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 Posted this in the other thread: The club/fans need to group together and produce something to inspire the players at home matches from now in. If you see the image attached, the words to that would be ideal to reproduce in our own style, given our current situation. Quote Edit
foxy boxing Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 as fans we will always get behind the team, we will always be supportive on match days and sing and make noise for the team. it's our club, our city , our county and we will support the team through thick and thin and through time and space. through the good times and the bad, through the heroic defeats and the stunning victories, through the pain and misery to the glory and adulation we will be with this club forever and beyond
SemperEadem Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 We love to give this messages out about how 'we as fans always get behind our boys'. Who are you kidding?! From day one this season there has been a lazy attitude in the stands. Can only really think of three ocasions this season where we as fans have genuinly been very loud - Brugge away, Porto at home and Stoke away. Could maybe add Spurs away to that list. Tuesday night 'the hardcore' there miles from home in vile weather and only about 20 of us singing. Where have those mid week championship away support gone? Derby away great scenes in the concourse... muted in the stands. Stop this highly inflated view of ourselves as fans, there are way better supports in this country. The football currently is turgid yes, we might be going down yes but all of those we have had before. The kop last year finally found its voice for really the first time since the move. This year bar the SK1 corner you just see bored faces. Football is about enjoyment, if the players don't give you that then look to yourself for it. This will get viewed as a rant or elitist by some but unfortunatly I think it needs to be said. Vocal support is getting worse.
TheSomersetFox Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 There are too many people who care about what's happening on the pitch first and foremost when it comes to creating an atmosphere. Not a criticism, just the way it is. The majority are going to be louder when we're better and that's obvious. I'd rather see us lose 2-1 with a rocking atmosphere, have a good time and come home with no voice than see us win 3-0 in an absolute morgue personally. People will think that's idiotic and rightly so, we're all different. Regards to the OP, I don't think people want to sing about these shite performances at the minute. People are turning up already demoralised and expecting to see us lose. I think it has to start with what's happening on the pitch, and again that's just the way it is. When the players have been aggressive we've responded, and our home support cant be knocked when the team hasn't been playing like a bunch of League 2 cloggers.
MPH Posted 3 February 2017 Author Posted 3 February 2017 9 hours ago, Col city fan said: Well where then? You think it'll make a difference on here? I have literally no idea what you are on about. No, the team and the club have got us into this mess and a simple 'get behind em' makes no difference. Why? Because we were anyway. A much more interesting thread would have been along the lines of 'do you think the fans have been behind the team and, if not, has that affected their performances'? That might have evoked some debate. Instead we get a Churchillian 'we're all in it together'. Tell that to the players this season. and yet you are still critical? Why bother commenting? just so you can object for the sake of objecting?
Larry_LCFC Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 I'm sorry but the team has been supported all season. Unfortunately the team don't appear to give a shit. Preach to the players, not the fans.
Guest LCFC_World Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 Just now, Larry_LCFC said: I'm sorry but the team has been supported all season. Unfortunately the team don't appear to give a shit. Preach to the players, not the fans. Agreed. It gets harder to support the team when they are putting in 0% effort. They get £60,000 + a week and all we ask of them is to try ffs.
SemperEadem Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 13 minutes ago, Larry_LCFC said: I'm sorry but the team has been supported all season. Unfortunately the team don't appear to give a shit. Preach to the players, not the fans. Nah I'm sorry but when boos and groans at miss placed passes have been louder than any chant or song this season that is not support. More would rather get on their backs than support its a sad truth.
Larry_LCFC Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 51 minutes ago, baker11 said: Nah I'm sorry but when boos and groans at miss placed passes have been louder than any chant or song this season that is not support. More would rather get on their backs than support its a sad truth. Would you rather people clap constant half arsed passes then?
Voll Blau Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 41 minutes ago, Larry_LCFC said: Would you rather people clap constant half arsed passes then? Maybe people don't need to do either and could just sing their hearts out instead?
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