Rogstanley Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Strokes said: Can we not be outraged by both? I don't think you can be equally outraged by both, no. One was a small group of kids doing some silly shouting as a misguided reaction presumably to various perceived and quite possibly real injustices. The other was a violent murder in which a man targeted and deliberately drove at muslims with the intention to kill as many of them as possible based on racial hatred. One event is clearly much, much more serious than the other. Edited 3 February 2018 by Rogstanley
Strokes Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 1 minute ago, Rogstanley said: I don't think you can be equally outraged by both, no. One was a small group of kids doing some silly shouting as a misguided reaction presumably to various perceived and quite possibly real injustices. The other was a violent murder in which a man targeted and deliberately drove at muslims with the intention to kill as many of them as possible based on racial hatred. One event is clearly much, much more serious than the other. Who said equal?
Webbo Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 2 minutes ago, Rogstanley said: I don't think you can be equally outraged by both, no. One was a small group of kids doing some silly shouting as a misguided reaction presumably to various perceived and quite possibly real injustices. The other was a violent murder in which a man targeted and deliberately drove at muslims with the intention to kill as many of them as possible based on racial hatred. One event is clearly much, much more serious than the other. When you were called on out on this subject the other day you claimed you were trolling. Are you you admitting now that you really are a crank? 1
Strokes Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 3 minutes ago, Rogstanley said: I don't think you can be equally outraged by both, no. One was a small group of kids doing some silly shouting as a misguided reaction presumably to various perceived and quite possibly real injustices. The other was a violent murder in which a man targeted and deliberately drove at muslims with the intention to kill as many of them as possible based on racial hatred. One event is clearly much, much more serious than the other. Actually, the fact you are defending some extreme behaviour in this way makes you pretty despicable really. 1
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 3 February 2018 Author Posted 3 February 2018 5 minutes ago, Strokes said: Can we not be outraged by both? Isn’t the problem people are being conditioned to be outraged at things that not really outrageous. Example: Piers Morgan calling out the cartoon image of him with his nose up Trump’s bum as homophobic / something that wouldn’t be acceptable if it featured women. Now in some respects... he may have a point; but if you judge it on a ‘fair comment’ basis and in the context it was used in - a satirical sketch, which responds in part to the sycophantic way he plugged the show beforehand and the way the interview was conducted. But equally - as a former editor, his complaints go completely against ‘freedom of expression’ and ‘freedom of the press’ - which shows a remarkable level of double standards. Had this been about someone else - i’m certain Piers would have defended the publisher.
Rogstanley Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 Just now, Strokes said: Who said equal? You implied equal when you used the exact same word to describe your desired reaction both events.
Strokes Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 Just now, Rogstanley said: You implied equal when you used the exact same word to describe your desired reaction both events. No it doesn’t.
Strokes Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 11 minutes ago, Strokes said: Quite, I have no intention of doing so but I’m a bit perplexed that either should be claimed as one of their own by anyone on here. They are both cases of abhorrent extremism, admittedly on completely different levels but my views and beliefs are not on any level with either as I imagine are anybody else’s here. 2 minutes ago, Rogstanley said: You implied equal when you used the exact same word to describe your desired reaction both events. ?? 1
Rogstanley Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 5 minutes ago, Webbo said: When you were called on out on this subject the other day you claimed you were trolling. Are you you admitting now that you really are a crank? That's twice you've called me a crank. What exactly is a crank?
Webbo Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 Just now, Rogstanley said: That's twice you've called me a crank. What exactly is a crank? 1
Guest Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 15 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said: Not sure whether it's depressing or laughable, probably both. I wonder if white shirt man was security, a lecturer or a student? He looks older. Whether deliberately or accidentally, he does seem to hit the woman while he and the loudmouth tosser are trying to get at one another. Mind you, I'd have felt like thumping that loudmouth in the hood and sunglasses myself. Why not take JRM's arguments on? I'm sure he did a Q&A. Probably because morons like that would be incapable of forming a coherent argument... The one the other month want able to come out with anything sensible, unfortunately. Their supposed to be the biggest and best get can't come up with a coherent argument to dismantle the cheerleaders of THIS government? Jeez.
Rogstanley Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 5 minutes ago, Strokes said: ?? Yeah you made it clear in a subsequent post which is fine but in the post I responded to you made no attempt to differentiate the two.
Strokes Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 1 minute ago, Rogstanley said: Yeah you made it clear in a subsequent post which is fine but in the post I responded to you made no attempt to differentiate the two. I didn’t realise I had too. I like a gin and tonic, that doesn’t mean it’s 50% gin. Do I have to clarify the quantities? You are being a cock, as usual. 1
Rogstanley Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Strokes said: I didn’t realise I had too. I like a gin and tonic, that doesn’t mean it’s 50% gin. Do I have to clarify the quantities? You are being a cock, as usual. That's a ridiculous analogy. When one event is much worse than another I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to use different words to convey their reactions to each event. Or if they must use the same word then at least throw some adverbs in. You tried to pass it off as if both are worthy of outrage and that's that. It was a clear attempt to apply an equal amount of outrage to both events which you only moved away from when challenged. I'm probably (definitely) being a cock about it, yes, but I am right. Edited 3 February 2018 by Rogstanley
Strokes Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 Just now, Rogstanley said: That's a ridiculous analogy. When one event is much worse than another I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to use different words to convey their reactions to each event. Or if they must use the same word then at least throw some adverbs in. You tried to pass it off as if both are worthy of outrage and that's that. It was a clear attempt to apply an equal amount of outrage to both events which you only moved away from when challenged. I'm probably (definitely) being a cock about it, yes, but I am right. No you aren’t, as my subsequent statement proved.
David Guiza Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 20 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: Their piece about sexual harassment is fantastic too. Poor Piers, and damn these ruddy women for doing comedy around him.
Rogstanley Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 11 minutes ago, Strokes said: No you aren’t, as my subsequent statement proved. I am. And actually, no, I don't think a few kids saying some words in the vicinity of Jacob Rees-Mogg is outrageous at all. Stupid for sure, but not worthy of outrage. The little bit of pushing that followed was even more stupid but again it's not worthy of outrage.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 3 February 2018 Author Posted 3 February 2018 19 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said: Don’t you start with the pigeon thing!
Strokes Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 2 minutes ago, Rogstanley said: I am. And actually, no, I don't think a few kids saying some words in the vicinity of Jacob Rees-Mogg is outrageous at all. Stupid for sure, but not worthy of outrage. The little bit of pushing that followed was even more stupid but again it's not worthy of outrage. No you’re not.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 3 February 2018 Author Posted 3 February 2018 15 minutes ago, David Guiza said: Their piece about sexual harassment is fantastic too. Poor Piers, and damn these ruddy women for doing comedy around him. Sigh at that video for the glaring error; ”Where not on Newsnight babe” ? 1
Rogstanley Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 Government having to step in to stop airlines falsifying information in order to extort more money out of customers http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42931091
Guest Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 25 minutes ago, Rogstanley said: Government having to step in to stop airlines falsifying information in order to extort more money out of customers http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42931091 They're just being efficient rog. They're even quicker than the Tories at making the common man poorer.
Strokes Posted 3 February 2018 Posted 3 February 2018 31 minutes ago, Rogstanley said: Government having to step in to stop airlines falsifying information in order to extort more money out of customers http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42931091 Good news for you, with your flight price finding skills you need to save all the extra pennies you can 1
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