Tommy Fresh Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 Just now, Zaphod Beeblebrox said: What about the others what? If he was anywhere near to make a challenge at the back post where he was meant to be then that is half acceptable. Reality is he was in no man's land yet again. Not even a debate. So you just make a point of criticising Amartey? Not the others where Fofana and Evans hardly covered themselves in glory
funkyrobot Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 8 minutes ago, Zaphod Beeblebrox said: Because he was supposed to be marking Jesus and yet again got no where near where he was supposed to be. Vardy's near post header was the key for me.
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 1 minute ago, Tommy Fresh said: So you just make a point of criticising Amartey? Not the others where Fofana and Evans hardly covered themselves in glory I make a point of criticising a player incapable for the 3rd time in 2 games this season of understanding positional sense. Should be no where near the squad, let alone the team. Ward can follow him in the bin after the shower of shite attempt at a one ****ing handed catch that gifted them the 3rd goal too.
Ric Flair Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 25 minutes ago, themightyfin said: Easy scapegoat again. There's always one. JE was far worse today. But shining a light on to a player when they shouldn't be playing isn't null and void just because another player was worse than them in a game. Amartey makes mistake after mistake, many games when he's the worst player on the pitch and continues to be a liability. It's not a competition, even though some of them look like they're doing it deliberately.
Tommy Fresh Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: But shining a light on to a player when they shouldn't be playing isn't null and void just because another player was worse than them in a game. Amartey makes mistake after mistake, many games when he's the worst player on the pitch and continues to be a liability. It's not a competition, even though some of them look like they're doing it deliberately. I think the issue most have is the unnecessary criticism or people's reluctance to acknowledge others failings. The bloke shouldn't be any higher than 4th in the pecking order and most people account for that when others slate him. It's on Rodgers how often Amartey starts (when everyone's fit)
Jaspa Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 At fault for the second goal, zero sense of where the danger was and was just floating around in his own head observing the ball. He did better than I thought he could in play today though. Starting him at LCB raises questions with Rodgers because it's inappropriate to play Dan on the left, and also with Soyuncu, because that's his position and now it seems we'll just have him sat on the bench all season. Bizarre situation really.
Tommy Fresh Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 14 minutes ago, Zaphod Beeblebrox said: I make a point of criticising a player incapable for the 3rd time in 2 games this season of understanding positional sense. Should be no where near the squad, let alone the team. Ward can follow him in the bin after the shower of shite attempt at a one ****ing handed catch that gifted them the 3rd goal too. No issue with him being criticised and don't think he's good enough to be starting more than a handful each season, however I do think as a squad player he is fine (when Rodgers reverts him to that role)
Fazzer 7 Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 Bet there’s not one prem club who would take him on a free.
themightyfin Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: But shining a light on to a player when they shouldn't be playing isn't null and void just because another player was worse than them in a game. Amartey makes mistake after mistake, many games when he's the worst player on the pitch and continues to be a liability. It's not a competition, even though some of them look like they're doing it deliberately. Don't see him any better or worse thsn most of the squad over the last 12 months to be honest. Not saying he he was amazing today just average. Like I said. Fans always need a scapegoat and it's fallen on Big Dan. You just proved it. Read what you juat said. Fact is there were players out there far worse than him today our captain included yet you still slate him. 1
themightyfin Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: But shining a light on to a player when they shouldn't be playing isn't null and void just because another player was worse than them in a game. Amartey makes mistake after mistake, many games when he's the worst player on the pitch and continues to be a liability. It's not a competition, even though some of them look like they're doing it deliberately. If its not a competition why are you putting him in last place, Saying he's consistently the worst player on the pitch? Edited 13 August 2022 by themightyfin
Tommy Fresh Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 10 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said: Bet there’s not one prem club who would take him on a free. Yawn
volpeazzurro Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 12 minutes ago, themightyfin said: Don't see him any better or worse thsn most of the squad over the last 12 months to be honest. Not saying he he was amazing today just average. Like I said. Fans always need a scapegoat and it's fallen on Big Dan. You just proved it. Read what you juat said. Fact is there were players out there far worse than him today our captain included yet you still slate him. Very sadly, our glorious leader had made the poor bloke a scapegoat by playing him somewhere he's just not suited to.
SafewayFox Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 If playing Amartey is the answer….then we’ve got the question wrong. Evans and Little Wes were actually worse than him today BUT drop this back 5 shit. Play 4 at the back FFS Rodgers….I think I actually preferred Puel’s negative double pivot than a back 5 😱 2
Guest Col city fan Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 1 hour ago, Zaphod Beeblebrox said: Did you not see the 2nd ****ing goal? The man has been at fault for 3 of 6 goals we have conceded. He is a liability. Now hold on a minute! You can understand failing to mark Jesus on the back stick! He is about 6ft 5! 😂
Tommy Fresh Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 2 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Now hold on a minute! You can understand failing to mark Jesus on the back stick! He is about 6ft 5! 😂 Evans' man also got goal side of him, it's quite clear the flick from Vardy got the better of a few.
LFox99 Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, themightyfin said: Easy scapegoat again. There's always one. JE was far worse today. Nothing to do with scapegoating He's completely unaware of his surroundings for that goal from the corner, he realized too late that Jesus was in at the backpost after the ball got deflected by Vardy. He completely switched off thinking he was in the clear after Vardy got something on that. It fits with his mistakes in that Brentford game last week, same story there, completely unaware of his surroundings for both the goals. 1st goal he should've realised he doesn't have to drop that deep and keep Toney onside, 2nd goal he didn't seem to realise that he was the only one free to close down Da Silva Edited 13 August 2022 by LFox99 1
Tommy Fresh Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 Just now, LFox99 said: Nothing to do with scapegoating He's completely unaware of his surroundings for that goal from the corner, he realized too late that Jesus was in at the backpost after the ball got deflected by Vardy. He completely switched off thinking he was in the clear after Vardy got something on that Yet the Fofana and Evans threads don't appear after stinking the place out today..... 1
LFox99 Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 1 minute ago, Tommy Fresh said: Yet the Fofana and Evans threads don't appear after stinking the place out today..... Because they don't stink out the place on a regular basis like Amartey seems to do. Yeah they both had poor games today, but arguably neither of them were directly at fault for one of the goals we conceded today.
walkerleeds Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 5 minutes ago, LFox99 said: Because they don't stink out the place on a regular basis like Amartey seems to do. Yeah they both had poor games today, but arguably neither of them were directly at fault for one of the goals we conceded today. But he doesn't any more than the other defenders do. Less high profile player= easy scapegoat for people like you.
SafewayFox Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 Just now, walkerleeds said: But he doesn't any more than the other defenders do. Less high profile player= easy scapegoat for people like you. To be fair, as others have stated - he’s been at fault for at least 2 (potentially 3 if count him losing Jesus today) goals already this season so yeah….he does have more errors that lead to goals than our other CB’s. He also got very, very lucky as his swipe earlier was a penalty another day too. Have him as a 4th choice CB and play 4 at the back and the posts on here die down massively.
Tommy Fresh Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, LFox99 said: Because they don't stink out the place on a regular basis like Amartey seems to do. Yeah they both had poor games today, but arguably neither of them were directly at fault for one of the goals we conceded today. Suggest you watch the build up to the first again, you make a point Amartey isn't aware of his surroundings (for the second), surely that also applies to Fofana for the third getting in the way of Ward and his limp attempt at claiming a ball. After Praet messing about before the fourth Fofana comes flying out to intercept, gets nowhere near meaning he's scrambling to stop Martinelli getting a shot off. In general I'd also hope that our two first choice centre backs make less mistakes than Amartey. Edited 13 August 2022 by Tommy Fresh
funkyrobot Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 18 minutes ago, LFox99 said: Because they don't stink out the place on a regular basis like Amartey seems to do. Yeah they both had poor games today, but arguably neither of them were directly at fault for one of the goals we conceded today. Presumably you missed Evans in the build up for that 1st goal?? 1
Dickov22 Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 Bloody depressing to see him in our starting 11 in 2022/23. Never been good enough for us since the moment he arrived.
Ric Flair Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 2 hours ago, themightyfin said: If its not a competition why are you putting him in last place, Saying he's consistently the worst player on the pitch? He is consistently the worst player on the pitch for us, just not today. Last week, without question and many times last season too. Other times last season not so but he should be nowhere near this team and its a sad endictment of how we have fallen.
themightyfin Posted 13 August 2022 Posted 13 August 2022 3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: He is consistently the worst player on the pitch for us, just not today. Last week, without question and many times last season too. Other times last season not so but he should be nowhere near this team and its a sad endictment of how we have fallen. You say he's constantly the worst player on the pitch. Then you say but" not today " And you also say "other times last season not so" Which is it Ric? Make your mind up? Your contradicting yourself. I would say there were at least 4 or 5 last season who were just as bad. Like I said there has to be a scapegoat and for now it's Dan. 2
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