Gary Mills and the BS about ''player burnout''.

[Trav Le Bleu]

18 hours ago, ceredigion said:

I've been provoked to making this comment by hearing Klopp moaning today that Liverpool had to kick off at 12.30 rather than 3.00.

I was reminded of the contribution Gary Mills made to LCFC in the early 90s.

 

Gary was a great player for us and in the seasons 90/91 91/92 and 92/93 he made a total of 163 appearances for the club. That's an average of 54 games a season over 3 years and he probably both started and finished every one of those games. He was also the wrong side of 30 at the time but was probably our best player during those 3 seasons.

 

During the 91/92 season he played every minute of every game in every competition the club was involved in, i.e the League, the Play-Offs, the FA Cup, the League Cup and the ZDS Cup. He played 61 out of 61 games that season, starting and finishing them all. He was never given any time off, not even an early substitution and was made to play in matches such as Maidstone United away in the League Cup and Barnsley at home in the ZDS Cup. I don't recall him complaining. And he was arguably our best player and should have been allowed a rest now and again.

 

Will that ever happen again? I very much doubt it.

 

 

Is this the same Gary Mills who died in 1994?

 

 

 

 

 

Seriously though, one of my favourite City players of all time.

Edited 29 November 2020 by Trav Le Bleu

[baldeagle]

9 hours ago, Collymore said:

 

Before that Klopp was right to call him out looking for his headline though when talking about the penalty. He knew "Klopp Agrees the ref got it right" was no use to him. 

 

Also I think people are naive to think he was sticking up for himself, he was adding more fuel to the fire to get more out of Klopp to ultimately make him more prominent in the journalistic world. 

 

The whole way the media is set up is rotten to the core, gone are the days of actually caring about tactical analysis, what a football fan might actually find interesting. Here you have a world class coach Infront of you and the reporter's primary objective is to talk about  decisions and get Klopp to criticise the ref and then he spent 10 minutes going on an ego trip.

 

I don't go to McDoanlds order a Big Mac and then expect the sales assistant to tell me why it's the wrong choice and say I should be getting a Chicken Sandwich.

 

The reporters should be there working for the public finding about what fans can't figure out for themselves... Instead that reporter will be getting a pat on the back by his superiors because he's crested a storm that will fill the back pages. 

 

Still the intricacies of the actual game will be left untouched.

Like I said funny how people see things differently and I’m definitely not naive 

[ceredigion]

3 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Is this the same Gary Mills who died in 1994?

 

 

 

 

 

Seriously though, one of my favourite City players of all time.

No, I'm well aware that he started playing for us before 1990 and finished playing for us after 1993. I selected those 3 seasons because of the intensity of his playing contribution during them. I think Gary played a handful go games in the disastrous 94/95 relegation season and left the club during it. But he was a brilliant player for us and we were lucky to have him at the time. 

[Guest worth_the_wait]

5 hours ago, Sampson said:

It wasn't due to that though was it? You can watch any game from that era and find the same thing - teams just didn't press and most of the game was played at walking pace with quick bursts of sprinting around the penalty area.

I'm talking about the World Cup games in Mexico.   And yes, they were at walking pace, due to the altitude.   They were much slower than other games at the time.   I remember at the time thinking how slow it was, with odd bursts of running.  

 

It would be a faster now, as the players are more athletic than they were in 1970 or 1986.  But the principle would remain the same.   That's why they still talk about "altitude training" and "acclimatisation". 

 

And I think it's a myth to think that all old football was at "walking pace".   Jock Wallace's young team of 1978-82 ran around like idiots if I remember.   ok not as fast as today, but certainly not sluggish.

[Gamble92]

On 28/11/2020 at 23:40, Bob Farley said:

Klopps interview today was embarrassing and I normally respect him. 

Was it really any different to any of his usual interviews when things haven't gone his way on the pitch?

 

I get the arguement that greats are bad losers because they don't lose that much etc etc, but the way him and Pep conduct themselves after losing comes across so childish and makes them so difficult to like. 

 

Then Chris Wilder, whos team have 1 point on the board, is able to conduct himself with dignity and professionalism. I know who i think more of as a person.

[Dan]

20 hours ago, ttfn said:

Klopp chooses to deploy a particularly aggressive, high intensity game. That is a decision he makes with little regard for the impact on his players.

 

I’ve made this point before but one of the best things Rodgers has done this season is take some of the intensity out of our play. It’s just not possible to play full throttle all the time when trying to play twice a week for 8 months non-stop. We’ve obviously had injuries too but we’re clearly doing everything in our power to mitigate them, I’m not sure the same can be said of Liverpool.

Absolutely spot on. Glad someone's pointed this out. Klopp is kicking off because his style is the most threatened by this situation.

[Chrysalis]

is there a link to the klopp interview?

[HighPeakFox]

Just now, Chrysalis said:

is there a link to the klopp interview?

Yes mate, it's in the Premier thread somewhere.

[Chrysalis]

9 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Yes mate, it's in the Premier thread somewhere.

Its a pretty big thread, but I will check the last 10 pages or so thanks.

[Bob Farley]

6 hours ago, Chrysalis said:

Its a pretty big thread, but I will check the last 10 pages or so thanks.

 

[HighPeakFox]

Apologies @Mark

[Manwell Pablo]

So much wrong with this
 

Early 90s division one/two football is completely incomparable to today’s Premier League. 

 

I’m not exactly bothered either way on the five subs thing but I do think dragging them out for the tv cameras at 1230 after a Wednesday night game isn’t in the best interest of the players playing for a club who could quite easily more than 54 competitive fixtures to play in a season that is being condensed down by 5 odd weeks due to Covid.

 

Id be equally annoyed of we were on at 12 after a Thursday game.