Thracian Posted 9 November 2005 Posted 9 November 2005 It was touched on in another thread so who do you think is City most valuable player. How much is he worth. And who of the existing City players will be worth most in, say, two years time. To my mind there are various contestants notably: Stearman, Gerrbrand, McCarthy, Sheehan, Wesolowski, Hughes, Hume, Chambers, possibly Hammond (if you're very optimistic) and Dodds (but I've only seen glimpses of him). Of these I'd whittle it down to Stearman, Gerrbrand, Sheehan, Wesolowski, Hume and Chambers. I've not seen much of Wesolowski but am happy to take the judgement of Ric Flair and others that his potential is considerable. At this time I'd probably rate Gerrbrand most valuable because he looks pretty close to a finished article. Everyone can improve of course but his effect is impressive. Value if he continues in the same vein? Perhaps £1.5/£2m or even a little more to someone needing a competent centre-back who has a calming effect on those around him. Next would come Hume. If Levein can find his perfect position and get some goals and assists out of him in a team that continues to climb the league then he must be £1.25/£1.5million. He's energetic, fairly versatile and hard to mark. He also looks as if he is team-minded enough to compliment others as a genuine partner. But two years down the line will Wesolowski emerge as a genuine midfielder of some authority?. Assuming he loses nothing to his injury what price is that sort of presence? How would he compare with the likes of Neil Lennon, Roy Keane, Alan Smith and others? I don't know cos I've not seen him but I'd guess he'll be top man from our ranks. After that I think Chambers or Sheehan would be most valueable two years down the line, Sheehan cos I think he'll be every bit as good as Denis Irwin and Chambers because his skills are so hard to find. Pushed for a choice I'd go for Chambers because I see something of Al "Sniffer" Clarke, the ex-England, Leeeds and City striker in him. Chambers too is a goal sniffer but he's quicker than Clarke ever was. He is forever focused on scoring and cool like a master sniper when a chance emerges. It wouldn't surprise me if he climbed into the £3-5 million price bracket swiftly because strikers are always valued and he is a natural one. It sounds a lot of money but there's no doubt in my mind he could well notch up 15-22 goals per season especially if he benefits from having other good attackers around him. People pay for those sorts of returns Am I being too optimistic? My views are there to be shot at cos it is all purely speculation but I've given reasons and would be interested to hear your opinions.
Head Honcho Posted 9 November 2005 Posted 9 November 2005 I guess we'd probably get more for Gerrbrand at this moment in time, but once Chambers gets some 1st team experience and proves that he can cut it at that level i would say he would be our most expensive. I said on an earlier thread that it wouldn't surprise me if a Premiership team comes in for PG in the New Year
supedaj Posted 9 November 2005 Posted 9 November 2005 Good post Thracian. I think McCarthy would also make that list somewhere - maybe after Hume. He's been improving very well and I believe he'll get better over the next few years. His confidence is growing and playing alongside Gerrbrand has helped him settle down. I think he'll easily be worth £1m if he continues playing like this. He's determined, brave, vocal and has a never say die spirit - good qualities you'd expect prospective buyers to notice. Nils would also make that list somewhere I think. However, he needs to be playing his natural position before he can grow I think. He isnt really a left back and even though he has coped fairly reasonably its obvious to all he'd rather be in central defence.
Katy Posted 9 November 2005 Posted 9 November 2005 Possibly slightly optimistic re Chambers Thracian, hes still very young and has a lot of learning and growing to do and to put him on a pedalstall too early on could be detrimental - having said that he is a great talent and one we need to hang on to and nuture. We need to someone to nail the midfield - we all thought Gareth Williams would be the man but he has proved himself to be a lazy arse living off past Forest glories, which is a shame as he could be a fantastic player. Gerrbrand was most impressive v Southampton and I agree that he could be worth a lot more than we payed for him in a couple of years IF he can keep injury free.
Macca4lcfc Posted 9 November 2005 Posted 9 November 2005 i wish you lot would fock off and leave chambo. Putting all this expectation on him is not doing any good at all. Certain people will say 'trust me from what ive seen of him he doesnt even notice pressure' blah blah blah, you dont know him, leave the hype til hes at least banged a few in for the first team. saying he should be in the team now, gonna be worth 5 mil and score 20 odd goals a season etc in 2 years is just stupid. Im not saying he wont cos I think hes got what it takes and so do a lot of people, but just let him do his own thing and stop making out hes some sort of saviour. p.s, i love him he is my brother. we have the same colour skin
Katy Posted 9 November 2005 Posted 9 November 2005 i wish you lot would fock off and leave chambo. Putting all this expectation on him is not doing any good at all. Certain people will say 'trust me from what ive seen of him he doesnt even notice pressure' blah blah blah, you dont know him, leave the hype til hes at least banged a few in for the first team. saying he should be in the team now, gonna be worth 5 mil and score 20 odd goals a season etc in 2 years is just stupid. Im not saying he wont cos I think hes got what it takes and so do a lot of people, but just let him do his own thing and stop making out hes some sort of saviour. p.s, i love him he is my brother. we have the same colour skin Excuse me? Not EVERYONE is is putting expectations on him - see my above post!
Thracian Posted 10 November 2005 Author Posted 10 November 2005 i wish you lot would fock off and leave chambo. Putting all this expectation on him is not doing any good at all. Certain people will say 'trust me from what ive seen of him he doesnt even notice pressure' blah blah blah, you dont know him, leave the hype til hes at least banged a few in for the first team. saying he should be in the team now, gonna be worth 5 mil and score 20 odd goals a season etc in 2 years is just stupid. Im not saying he wont cos I think hes got what it takes and so do a lot of people, but just let him do his own thing and stop making out hes some sort of saviour. p.s, i love him he is my brother. we have the same colour skin He's gonna have to cope with his destiny and any adulation/expectation that goes with it. Some deal with it better than others but there are endless instances of people far younger than 15 who have had fame thrust upon them and coped perfectly well. Film stars, gymnasts, singers, musicians ... the list is endless. He should enjoy it and just be aware that by 15 many young lads in the past had been years down the Leicestershire coal mines, had served their time on fighting ships or had lied and signed themselves up for the grimness of a foreign battlefield. He'll cope so long as there are people he trusts around him to put things in proportion, to explain that his life will have highlights and times of despair and to make sure he visits places like the Royal Infirmary's childrens wards to remind him of how lucky he is and how humble he should be in his good fortune. Coping with expectations?. Piece of cake compared with some of the things even much younger children have to deal with. It's when people stop wanting to talk about him he should be concerned. By the way as a footballer, I love him too, and his skin - for what it's worth - is an entirely different colour from mine!.
TAFKA Castroneves Posted 10 November 2005 Posted 10 November 2005 I think the top three players of any value we have (not really going on current form however) are Patrick Gerrbrand, Stephen Hughes and Richard Stearman. These though are for different reasons. Gerrbrand is showing how he is, and is still developing into a top quality defender, he doesn't make mistakes and is a rock in what could be possibly the best defense in the league by the end of the season (optimistic maybe...but still). Hughes has already proven himself last season to be an inspiration when on form and has a lot to offer to any club. Stearman meanwhile has amazing potential and we would have to value him this high up in order not to feel let down if we had to sell him. If I had to set values on it I would go at the moment...Gerrbrand £750,000, Stearman £800,000 and Hughes £750,000 to 1 million. However it is hard to say, I still reckon there is also the factor to take into consideration that while we see Stearman, Sheehan, Gerrbrand, McCarthy and Wesolowski (for examples) as our players worth the most a lot of other clubs wouldn't have caught on yet - or so I hope. This could work in our favour as they would rate instead players like Williams (who we could still offload for possibly what we paid for him). Honestly in January if Levein was slick in the transfer market we could afford to loose Williams for a fee of some description and grab another striker instead - what with Wesolowski on the mend also.
City Fan Posted 10 November 2005 Posted 10 November 2005 I think Hughes would be our most valuable player.
jamie_trueblue Posted 10 November 2005 Posted 10 November 2005 id say gerrbrand, stearman, sheehan, hughes and williams all would be worth a few bob
Sly Posted 10 November 2005 Posted 10 November 2005 i wish you lot would fock off and leave chambo. Putting all this expectation on him is not doing any good at all. Certain people will say 'trust me from what ive seen of him he doesnt even notice pressure' blah blah blah, you dont know him, leave the hype til hes at least banged a few in for the first team. saying he should be in the team now, gonna be worth 5 mil and score 20 odd goals a season etc in 2 years is just stupid. Im not saying he wont cos I think hes got what it takes and so do a lot of people, but just let him do his own thing and stop making out hes some sort of saviour. p.s, i love him he is my brother. we have the same colour skin My mates an Everton fan and he spoke great things of Rooney at least 2 years before he was in the Everton first team,
Head Honcho Posted 10 November 2005 Posted 10 November 2005 i wish you lot would fock off and leave chambo. Putting all this expectation on him is not doing any good at all. Certain people will say 'trust me from what ive seen of him he doesnt even notice pressure' blah blah blah, you dont know him, leave the hype til hes at least banged a few in for the first team. saying he should be in the team now, gonna be worth 5 mil and score 20 odd goals a season etc in 2 years is just stupid. Im not saying he wont cos I think hes got what it takes and so do a lot of people, but just let him do his own thing and stop making out hes some sort of saviour. p.s, i love him he is my brother. we have the same colour skin Sorry mate. But WTF does that have to do with anything?
Ric Flair Posted 10 November 2005 Posted 10 November 2005 I think it's hard to say who's worth the most in our squad. There aren't that many clubs that have been linked with many of our players mainly because alot of them have only just signed or emerged at our club. Stephen Hughes last season looked like he was worth £750,000 - 1,000,000 of anybody's money but this season he's been piss poor and teams wouldn't touch him at the minute thank god. It would be interesting to see how much clubs would be willing to pay for players like Stearman, Wesolowski, etc. I think Stearman could fetch a £1 million easily. I'm not saying he's warranted that price tag in the 20+ games he's played but there are some big clubs that have kept tabs on him and they know a good player when they see one. Stearman is the most accomplished youngster we have at the minute, Wesolowski will challenge him for that accolade when he's fit and i'm pretty sure that Weso's value will rise rapidly every time he dons the Leicester shirt. Gerrbrand has only played 3 or 4 times for Leicester and to put a value on his head would be difficult, from what i've seen of him though he looks to have found English football easy to cope with and I can't see him having problems at any level in this country. McCarthy is also coming on leaps and bounds and I can see him turning out to be a sought after defender, he has that Irish determination which will get him punching above his weight and couple that with the natural talent he has I think the pair of them could be hot property in a year or so. The list goes on, I could talk about Chambers potential. I could say Hume will be worth this that and the other, but it's far too early to talk figures about alot of these players as they haven't been here long. If the club is more successful as a whole then the vultures will come circling round us and who knows what our players will be priced at. I think the fact we are having this conversation outlines just what Levein has done here and how imperitive it is to allow him to continue his revolution at Leicester. WE'RE YOUNG, WE'RE PROUD OUR DEFENCE IS ****IN SOUND THE CITY BOYZ, THE CITY BOYZ Very apt.
Onion Posted 10 November 2005 Posted 10 November 2005 OT: I think Hume should play a Eidur Gudjonsson role sitting just infront of the midfield but behind the forwards.
Katy Posted 10 November 2005 Posted 10 November 2005 OT: I think Hume should play a Eidur Gudjonsson role sitting just infront of the midfield but behind the forwards. Either way the lad needs to be in the team and get a few full games under his belt.
Durnerz Posted 10 November 2005 Posted 10 November 2005 Hume's a technically better player than Hammond in my eyes but having to adjust to a higher division and not getting a fair run of matches in the side isnt helping him at all, we'll ruin him if he keeps being treated like this.
Ric Flair Posted 10 November 2005 Posted 10 November 2005 Hume's a technically better player than Hammond in my eyes but having to adjust to a higher division and not getting a fair run of matches in the side isnt helping him at all, we'll ruin him if he keeps being treated like this. I know what your saying but also if he isn't scoring then it's only fair somebody else is given the chance as Elvis is in the same boat. However Hume has looked dangerous in 90% of the games i've seen him in and he is the sort of player that will get better each game he plays in and it's not down to him being a poor player he just needs some luck, etc. Hume must start IMO for the next 6 games atleast.
Libertine Posted 10 November 2005 Posted 10 November 2005 Top Cat was ace! Hong Kong Phooey was always better. <_<
Head Honcho Posted 10 November 2005 Posted 10 November 2005 Hong Kong Phooey was always better. <_< Rotten Ralph is the cat!
cisono Posted 12 November 2005 Posted 12 November 2005 I think Hughes would be our most valuable player. Indeed... just wait until he's back to full fitness
Katy Posted 12 November 2005 Posted 12 November 2005 Indeed... just wait until he's back to full fitness You love Stephen Hughes At least we have more options when Hughes is in the side, injuries are a pain in the arse....knee......ankle.....back...etc etc
Ric Flair Posted 14 November 2005 Posted 14 November 2005 Hughes has got to raise his game when he comes back, he was excellent at times last season but other than a nice 60 minutes against Sheff Wed he's been awful this season.I know it's down to the injury problems he's had, but we really need him on top of his game. He doesn't score enough goals himself and that's something a good central midfielder can do. It time for Hughes to show everyone how good he really is, there seems to be alot of Leicester fans that reckon he's the business but it's time he showed it. He's got the potential to be very good, he now needs to show it on aregular basis. We're relying on you Shuggie!
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