MPH Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 27 minutes ago, Pub breath said: When and where did he rules out Leeds? (clue - he hasn't). https://motleedsnews.com/transfers/charles-de-ketelaere-says-continues-to-reject-leeds-united-as-personal-terms-agreed-with-ac-milan/?amp 1
Pub breath Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, MPH said: https://motleedsnews.com/transfers/charles-de-ketelaere-says-continues-to-reject-leeds-united-as-personal-terms-agreed-with-ac-milan/?amp So where is the quote from the player or someone at the club where it says he's rejected Leeds? This is an Italian journalist's "spin". It's not fact. Leeds have had a bid accepted by Bruges and continue to want to land him. I'm not sure why we'd be doing that if the player had rejected us..... Edited 23 July 2022 by Pub breath
Pub breath Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 (edited) To add, I think he does clearly prefer Milan. Who can blame him? The Leeds docks are great and the weather is obviously a big pull in West Yorkshire but we can't offer Champions League football. Edited 23 July 2022 by Pub breath
Grebfromgrebland Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 We're still in with a chance. Just need a few of those dominoes to fall our way. The dominos: https://youtu.be/vDy2xWpZWVc 1
MPH Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 2 hours ago, Pub breath said: So where is the quote from the player or someone at the club where it says he's rejected Leeds? This is an Italian journalist's "spin". It's not fact. Leeds have had a bid accepted by Bruges and continue to want to land him. I'm not sure why we'd be doing that if the player had rejected us..... Please don’t be one of those guys that thinks players have to do all the talking… this was from a Leeds website. If anyone is going to be hopeful of a deal going through it would be them, but they are not. They have accepted he’s rejected them, but pub breath of Foxestalk knows better 2
An Sionnach Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 34 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said: We're still in with a chance. Just need a few of those dominoes to fall our way. The dominos: https://youtu.be/vDy2xWpZWVc No we are not, we used nearly 30 senior players this afternoon .No room at the inn I'm afraid. 1
Paninistickers Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 2 hours ago, Pub breath said: To add, I think he does clearly prefer Milan. Who can blame him? The Leeds docks are great and the weather is obviously a big pull in West Yorkshire but we can't offer Champions League football. Let it go man. He had decided to move to us. The deal was done long ago. We can't afford him tho as we have been unable to offload. Milan are likely to pick him.up, but both player and club brugge are waiting on our money in case it eventually comes up. Mentioning Allan Clarke, Johnny Giles, Peter lorimer, Billy bremner and Gary sprake to a 21 year old Belgian doesn't cut it anymore. It doesn't even cut it with me, and I was born and the 70s.
Deeg67 Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 Leeds has clearly given up the ghost on this and moved on to Kalimuendo. He’s going to Milan, end of story.
LFox99 Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 1 hour ago, Deeg67 said: He’s going to Milan Not if they dont pay up another 3m to make it 35m total.
Pub breath Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 2 hours ago, MPH said: Please don’t be one of those guys that thinks players have to do all the talking… this was from a Leeds website. If anyone is going to be hopeful of a deal going through it would be them, but they are not. They have accepted he’s rejected them, but pub breath of Foxestalk knows better Thankfully, i'm not. I'm one of those guys who thinks a random Italian journalist's use of language in a headline isn't a reliable way to detemrine the facts of a situation where is might be beneficial for them to use language in a biased fashoin, to make people reach conclusions that aren't real and help obtain clicks and loyalty from their core readership. I can't see why a Leeds site picking up the article makes the slightest differnece to anything. I'm also one of those guys that thinks the words of a manager of a club involved directly in a tranfer situation, are probably more reliable than those of a journalist, who isn't. "I’d say we’re actively pursuing both [left-back and striker] positions," he said while on the club's pre-season tour of Australia. "The striker one, I think it’s been well-documented that De Ketelaere was a goal of ours and it’s not finished yet with him. Marsch from 3 days ago. If CDK has said "no" to Leeds, why the hell are we not finished with him?
Pub breath Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 1 hour ago, Deeg67 said: Leeds has clearly given up the ghost on this and moved on to Kalimuendo. He’s going to Milan, end of story. We clearly haven't. See above. 1
MPH Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 22 minutes ago, Pub breath said: Thankfully, i'm not. I'm one of those guys who thinks a random Italian journalist's use of language in a headline isn't a reliable way to detemrine the facts of a situation where is might be beneficial for them to use language in a biased fashoin, to make people reach conclusions that aren't real and help obtain clicks and loyalty from their core readership. I can't see why a Leeds site picking up the article makes the slightest differnece to anything. I'm also one of those guys that thinks the words of a manager of a club involved directly in a tranfer situation, are probably more reliable than those of a journalist, who isn't. "I’d say we’re actively pursuing both [left-back and striker] positions," he said while on the club's pre-season tour of Australia. "The striker one, I think it’s been well-documented that De Ketelaere was a goal of ours and it’s not finished yet with him. Marsch from 3 days ago. If CDK has said "no" to Leeds, why the hell are we not finished with him? haha. But it’s not just a random journalist is it. And ‘we’ makes sense now. but keep living in denial if you want to. Good luck in your persuit of him
Pub breath Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 2 minutes ago, MPH said: haha. But it’s not just a random journalist is it. And ‘we’ makes sense now. but keep living in denial if you want to. Good luck in your persuit of him So he's definitely said no to Leeds because an Italian journo said so? Do you always believe everything written by journalists, out of curiosity?
MPH Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 12 minutes ago, Pub breath said: So he's definitely said no to Leeds because an Italian journo said so? Do you always believe everything written by journalists, out of curiosity? But it’s not just one journalist. There’s so But don’t worry… I’m sure you know better than all the journalists reporting it…
Strokes Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 13 minutes ago, Pub breath said: So he's definitely said no to Leeds because an Italian journo said so? Do you always believe everything written by journalists, out of curiosity? No just the obviously true stuff, like this.
Pub breath Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, MPH said: But it’s not just one journalist. There’s so But don’t worry… I’m sure you know better than all the journalists reporting it… Who else has said this? I've seen some say he prefers Milan but that's not at all the same thing. I don't profess to knowing anything. I've simply asked for some evidence that the player has said no to Leeds, which you've not been able to come up with. No sense in straw manning this. Why are Leeds still keeping this deal alive if the player has said "no"? Edited 23 July 2022 by Pub breath
LFox99 Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 20 minutes ago, Pub breath said: Why are Leeds still keeping this deal alive if the player has said "no"? Because they're hoping the higher they push their offer, perhaps Brugge would nudge CDK in their direction.
Pub breath Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 2 minutes ago, LFox99 said: Because they're hoping the higher they push their offer, perhaps Brugge would nudge CDK in their direction. Not sure we'll increase the offer. The offer was accepted weeks ago. The scenario here is that the player wants to go to Milan. That's clear. Who can blame him? Great city, amazing old stadium and champions league football. But, Leeds have had the largest bid accepted. There isn't a shred of evicence that the player has rejected Leeds, just that he prefers Milan. If that deal can't be concluded, the player then has the option to reject or accept ours. If he declines then, he has rejected Leeds. Until then, he hasn't.
Phenom Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 31 minutes ago, Pub breath said: Who else has said this? I've seen some say he prefers Milan but that's not at all the same thing. I don't profess to knowing anything. I've simply asked for some evidence that the player has said no to Leeds, which you've not been able to come up with. No sense in straw manning this. Why are Leeds still keeping this deal alive if the player has said "no"? What a strange hill to die on…
LFox99 Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 2 minutes ago, Pub breath said: Not sure we'll increase the offer. The offer was accepted weeks ago. The scenario here is that the player wants to go to Milan. That's clear. Who can blame him? Great city, amazing old stadium and champions league football. But, Leeds have had the largest bid accepted. There isn't a shred of evicence that the player has rejected Leeds, just that he prefers Milan. If that deal can't be concluded, the player then has the option to reject or accept ours. If he declines then, he has rejected Leeds. Until then, he hasn't. Just don't see why he'd tie himself down at Leeds lmfao He can just stay at Brugge and not have any worry about adapting abroad before the WC which is what Martinez actually asked for. Then either in January or next summer his price will have come down and literally every UCL club with a gap in their attack is going to be after him.
LFox99 Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 1 minute ago, Phenom said: What a strange hill to die on… Arguing on a Leicester forum why a Club Brugge player will join Leeds over Milan and Leicester bit odd indeed 1
Pub breath Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 1 minute ago, LFox99 said: Just don't see why he'd tie himself down at Leeds lmfao He can just stay at Brugge and not have any worry about adapting abroad before the WC which is what Martinez actually asked for. Then either in January or next summer his price will have come down and literally every UCL club with a gap in their attack is going to be after him. That's the way you see it and it's fine but you're not the player. I have no idea if he comes or not but he definitely hasn't said no, which was the only point being contested.
LFox99 Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Pub breath said: That's the way you see it and it's fine but you're not the player. I have no idea if he comes or not but he definitely hasn't said no, which was the only point being contested. holy **** mate, go and touch some grass you're on a rival teams forum arguing why your club is an attractive destination for one of Europe's biggest talents when you've clearly just escaped relegation Can't wait for him to end up literally anywhere but Leeds Edited 23 July 2022 by LFox99
Pub breath Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 6 minutes ago, LFox99 said: Arguing on a Leicester forum why a Club Brugge player will join Leeds over Milan and Leicester bit odd indeed Not arguing. Just debating. I've been a memeber for yonks and read the forum regularly. I'll usually only post if Leeds related. Can't see much odd in that.
Popular Post Bordersfox Posted 23 July 2022 Popular Post Posted 23 July 2022 1 minute ago, LFox99 said: holy **** mate, go and touch some grass you're on a rival teams forum arguing why your club is an attractive destination for one of Europe's biggest talents when you've clearly just escaped relegation Can't wait for him to end up literally anywhere but Leeds Hey come on mate. One of the things I like about this forum is its generally a fairly civil place to have a debate. Generally. It's not like the chap is being a dick about it. I think it's interesting to have another fans perspective about something and get out the ol' echo chamber now and then. Not like he's a Forest fan 🤭 6
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