The I cant believe it’s not politics thread.

[ozleicester]

7 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Alternative way to announce the arrival of the Tory conference

 

 

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/d71a6ca6-38e1-4970-8a8d-3d1e6ea59be1

[ozleicester]

7 hours ago, Fazzer 7 said:

When they’re blocking roads causing criminal damage and disrupting peoples lives they should be forcibly moved. I would settle for water canons though. You know like they do in other European cities. The Dutch police can be brutal. 

This would lead to the cannoning of pretty much every tory member and supporter.

[ozleicester]

 

Millenial Vs Boomer questions....

 

 

[Fazzer 7]

5 hours ago, ozleicester said:

This would lead to the cannoning of pretty much every tory member and supporter.

Probably. It’s sad and a sign of the times unfortunately. 

[fox_up_north]

Tbh, this weekend I have had some plans scuppered because of train strikes and a parcel I ordered hasn't arrived on time due to postal strikes.

 

But I'm just glad people are finally doing something. 

[weller54]

Thick Lizzy on BBC1 now!!..

FFS she's more deluded than Rodgers!!

[Bellend Sebastian]

5 minutes ago, weller54 said:

Thick Lizzy on BBC1 now!!..

FFS she's more deluded than Rodgers!!

It's quite haunting to see someone ageing before your very eyes

Edited 2 October 2022 by Bellend Sebastian

[Bellend Sebastian]

Even Laura can barely be arsed with this

[Bellend Sebastian]

For a split second Truss looked down at the floor and looked very, very sad

[Fazzer 7]

All she does is constantly interrupt and talk over her guests. 

[Foxdiamond]

Shame there is not a Paxman type to grill Truss.

[st albans fox]

Is it worth watching this on iPlayer? 
does Laura actually ask any questions other than how things appear ?   Like any technical questions as to how she’s wasted billions of our money via her incompetence?
 

 

[st albans fox]

2 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Shame there is not a Paxman type to grill Truss.

You’ve answered my question 

 

point here 

if someone at the bbc were to really embarrass the PM on live telly, would they risk their future ?  I mean the bbc is publicly funded 

[Nalis]

Truss is very much academically gifted so dont think she's as thick as people make out but she is such a willing puppet for the tory traditionalists.

[Dunge]

1 minute ago, Fazzer 7 said:

All she does is constantly interrupt and talk over her guests. 

Obviously you’re going to get s*** for this, but this is something that really annoys me about modern tv interviews. It’s not just Kuenssberg, it’s everyone. Everyone has to constantly talk over their guests, feeling the need to pressure and call out. I’m sure it only results in worse politicians and people operating in sound bites. I’d rather someone be given the opportunity to explain, then if they still aren’t answering the question, call them on it. It’s like they’re trying to fit too much into the segment and won’t have a proper discussion.

[Bellend Sebastian]

1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

Is it worth watching this on iPlayer? 
does Laura actually ask any questions other than how things appear ?   Like any technical questions as to how she’s wasted billions of our money via her incompetence?
 

 

Probably not, if I'm honest. It's all weirdly low energy. Truss was probably trying to appear calm and in control but just looked really tired.

 

It went better than the local radio interviews though

[Foxdiamond]

1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

You’ve answered my question 

 

point here 

if someone at the bbc were to really embarrass the PM on live telly, would they risk their future ?  I mean the bbc is publicly funded 

James O'brien touched on this when he said the local radio interviewers were tougher than the usual national suspects because they don't have anything to lose .

[Legend_in_blue]

The key decision on the tax rate wasn't discussed with the cabinet. 

 

[Zear0]

Gove sticking the knife in. Unusual for me to agree with the man, but he's such a snake it's unreal. 

[Tommy Fresh]

19 minutes ago, Nalis said:

Truss is very much academically gifted so dont think she's as thick as people make out but she is such a willing puppet for the tory traditionalists.

Think of the battering Milliband got for looking uncomfortable with the media and how much Starmer gets berated for not being charismatic. Yet we end up with this clown. She literally sounds like a child in high school who doesn't fancy it being asked to read to the class

Edited 2 October 2022 by Tommy Fresh

[ozleicester]

20 minutes ago, Dunge said:

Obviously you’re going to get s*** for this, but this is something that really annoys me about modern tv interviews. It’s not just Kuenssberg, it’s everyone. Everyone has to constantly talk over their guests, feeling the need to pressure and call out. I’m sure it only results in worse politicians and people operating in sound bites. I’d rather someone be given the opportunity to explain, then if they still aren’t answering the question, call them on it. It’s like they’re trying to fit too much into the segment and won’t have a proper discussion.

IMO interviewers have no choice but to do this... the MPs are so professionally drilled in how to babble, obfuscate and simply not answer the question asked... that the interviewer has to stop the stream of bullshit to try and get an answer.

[ozleicester]

26 minutes ago, Nalis said:

Truss is very much academically gifted so dont think she's as thick as people make out but she is such a willing puppet for the tory traditionalists.

academic gifts do not preclude thickiness

[st albans fox]

Surely the question that followed the answer that the PM doesn’t interfere with the diary of the chancellor would be that she seems happy to interfere with the diary of the king ….

 

Either these interviewers are unable to think on their feet or they’re unwilling to deviate from their script ……

 

get truss infront of Andrew neill or paxman - that would be amusing ….. in a macabre fashion ….

[Dunge]

9 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

IMO interviewers have no choice but to do this... the MPs are so professionally drilled in how to babble, obfuscate and simply not answer the question asked... that the interviewer has to stop the stream of bullshit to try and get an answer.

I appreciate it’s a cycle, but the journalists have to be the ones to break it. Many questions these days seem to be presented as a trap, to draw an awkward or controversial response for the sake of that response. Then, if the politician doesn’t give a Yes or No answer (and either way falling into a trap that’s been laid), they get interrupted as they talk around it. Not every viewer has the attention span of a goldfish, yet it often feels like they’re the ones that the interviewers have in mind. By all means challenge someone who isn’t answering the question, but often there needs to be a qualification of why they’re giving the answer they are and the interviewers won’t allow that.

 

Worth noting this happens across the political spectrum.

[StanSP]

Quite a simple question, no?