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[AyewJoking]

20 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I'm presuming that's because you're in an area that is classified as frequently water stressed? Or is it another reason - new build?

 

Found this article rather insightful:

 

https://www.rics.org/news-insights/water-meters-a-turn-on-or-turn-off

 

For what it's worth I'm very ambivalent about the idea for broadly similar reasons to you, but additionally given the times we're already in and going towards more, there really needs to be no individual household exceptions to restrictions on resources like this; especially exceptions made by money. 

 

 

general rule of thumb is if you have more people than bedrooms you will pay MORE with a meter.

 

I, my wife and daughter live in a 2 bed house.

 

 

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, AyewJoking said:

general rule of thumb is if you have more people than bedrooms you will pay MORE with a meter.

 

I, my wife and daughter live in a 2 bed house.

 

 

I have no reason to doubt that at all. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

Short answer: Looks like not.

 

Long answer: clearly it's a matter of conscience whether such a fundamentally critically vital and (at the moment) limited resource should be more available to those with more ability to pay anyway. 

It would be less critical if water companies used profits to maintain their systems instead of paying people gigantic sums of money for doing naff all.

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 minutes ago, AyewJoking said:

general rule of thumb is if you have more people than bedrooms you will pay MORE with a meter.

 

I, my wife and daughter live in a 2 bed house.

 

 

You could shower with your wife...

 

Though that might create more people.

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

It would be less critical if water companies used profits to maintain their systems instead of paying people gigantic sums of money for doing naff all.

And I have absolutely no reason to doubt that at all. 

[leicsmac]

The above being said, I fear that it will take more than water company restructuring to reduce the worst effects of the problems on the horizon and closing very, very fast. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

And I have absolutely no reason to doubt that at all. 

Or, come to think of it, in Thames Water's case, non-profits.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Just now, leicsmac said:

The above being said, I fear that it will take more than water company restructuring to reduce the worst effects of the problems on the horizon and closing very, very fast. 

It would go a long way.

 

Earlier this year (April I think) a mains pipe blew outside South Wigston Tesco. It was a constant torrent for days and it took a week and a half to fix.

 

I say fix... less than two weeks passed before I blew again in exactly the same fashion and again it took over a week to fix.

 

I wonder how much water was wasted in those almost three weeks of constantly flowing water?

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

It would go a long way.

 

Earlier this year (April I think) a mains pipe blew outside South Wigston Tesco. It was a constant torrent for days and it took a week and a half to fix.

 

I say fix... less than two weeks passed before I blew again in exactly the same fashion and again it took over a week to fix.

 

I wonder how much water was wasted in those almost three weeks of constantly flowing water?

It would certainly go a long way, that's true. 

[Bellend Sebastian]

My wife is going to thrilled when she gets home to find that I'm catching the waste water from the bathroom in the bottom of the old hamster cage to put on the garden.

 

It's getting a bit desperate out there isn't it? Some of the trees are starting to turn brown

[leicsmac]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/cn8n9pg54m1o

 

This summer is on course to be the UK's hottest since records began, according to the Met Office.

Only average conditions are needed for the remainder of August to surpass the record set just last year.

Provisional Met Office statistics show that the UK's mean temperature for meteorological summer so far (1 June to 10 August) currently stands at 16.48C (61.66F), which is 1.88C above the 1991-2020 average.

In summer 2025, the mean temperature across the country - which includes overnight lows as well as daytime highs - was 16.10C (60.98F).

It is in line with evidence that summers are getting hotter and are likely to become drier because of climate change.

 

[Zear0]

Just now, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/cn8n9pg54m1o

 

This summer is on course to be the UK's hottest since records began, according to the Met Office.

Only average conditions are needed for the remainder of August to surpass the record set just last year.

Provisional Met Office statistics show that the UK's mean temperature for meteorological summer so far (1 June to 10 August) currently stands at 16.48C (61.66F), which is 1.88C above the 1991-2020 average.

In summer 2025, the mean temperature across the country - which includes overnight lows as well as daytime highs - was 16.10C (60.98F).

It is in line with evidence that summers are getting hotter and are likely to become drier because of climate change.

 

“No sh*t”. This isn’t even taking account for the next heatwave so looks like it’ll smash the record.

[Foxdiamond]

1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/cn8n9pg54m1o

 

This summer is on course to be the UK's hottest since records began, according to the Met Office.

Only average conditions are needed for the remainder of August to surpass the record set just last year.

Provisional Met Office statistics show that the UK's mean temperature for meteorological summer so far (1 June to 10 August) currently stands at 16.48C (61.66F), which is 1.88C above the 1991-2020 average.

In summer 2025, the mean temperature across the country - which includes overnight lows as well as daytime highs - was 16.10C (60.98F).

It is in line with evidence that summers are getting hotter and are likely to become drier because of climate change.

 

Yet still some silly sods think everything is just dandy

[leicsmac]

5 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

“No sh*t”. This isn’t even taking account for the next heatwave so looks like it’ll smash the record.

Right. 

 

And climate scientists and science communicators everywhere are caught between worry, exasperation and anger at things coming rapidly to fruition pretty much down to the dotted i.

 

4 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Yet still some silly sods think everything is just dandy

And therein lies the problem where scientific policymaking is open to every part of "democratic debate".

[Parafox]

3 hours ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

My wife is going to thrilled when she gets home to find that I'm catching the waste water from the bathroom in the bottom of the old hamster cage to put on the garden.

 

It's getting a bit desperate out there isn't it? Some of the trees are starting to turn brown

Autumn/Fall will begin to be noticed by the end of August, I reckon.

 

We've got 2 plum trees, 2 apple trees and a pear tree (no partridge) and the fruit is tiny and hard. Normally by this time we'd be seeing plums getting full and ready to be picked in a couple of weeks. They're about the size of a grape right now and are falling to the ground.

Last year we had hundreds. This year, pah.

Edited 11 August by Parafox

[Parafox]

17 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Yet still some silly sods think everything is just dandy

I was talking to a mate last night and his take is that, "well it's summer, go out and enjoy it". Like the dead fields and gardens are insignificant. 

 

Followed by "I'm going to my house in Florida for the winter months".

 

I nearly punched him.

[Bert]

I’ll be glad when these summer months are done. I much prefer winter anyway, and don’t get

me wrong I enjoy the sunshine the blue skies, but September onwards is the best part of the year and it would be nice to not be dripping in sweat all day every day. 

[Foxdiamond]

57 minutes ago, Parafox said:

I was talking to a mate last night and his take is that, "well it's summer, go out and enjoy it". Like the dead fields and gardens are insignificant. 

 

Followed by "I'm going to my house in Florida for the winter months".

 

I nearly punched him.

Obviously not worried about his carbon footprint 

[st albans fox]

This summer has seemed a lot hotter than last and yet it’s likely to end up around 0.5c warmer (appreciate that’s across 90 days so notable) 

assume the nights last summer were generally a bit warmer than this. 

[Rubbersoul]

I genuinely think I get SAD in the summer rather than winter 
 

I function and just feel so much better in the winter

[Foxdiamond]

Usually I prefer spring and autumn. What was our usual summers with a bit of variation are OK rather than this parched year. Trouble is winters are becoming duller, wetter and far more windy. Not so many crisp, clear frosty days that I quite like.

[Trav Le Bleu]

This is the future...

 

 

[CornwallFox]

3 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Right. 

 

And climate scientists and science communicators everywhere are caught between worry, exasperation and anger at things coming rapidly to fruition pretty much down to the dotted i.

 

And therein lies the problem where scientific policymaking is open to every part of "democratic debate".

Not down too the dotted i. 

It's happening much faster than predicted and more severely. 

I know you know this.

[leicsmac]

8 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Not down too the dotted i. 

It's happening much faster than predicted and more severely. 

I know you know this.

There have been reports with this outcome as a possibility, but yes, point taken.

[nnfox]

9 hours ago, Foxdiamond said:

Usually I prefer spring and autumn. What was our usual summers with a bit of variation are OK rather than this parched year. Trouble is winters are becoming duller, wetter and far more windy. Not so many crisp, clear frosty days that I quite like.

I feel like this is a point that isn't stressed enough.  I think I'm right in saying that winters here are now milder by a greater margin than our summers.  In summer it's easy to know that it's really hot because the sun is baking and everything is parched, but if the winter is a couple of degrees warmer, people still put a coat on and don't give it a second thought.

 

More rain, less snow and ice, longer autumns, earlier springs.  Our climate is changing quicker than most folk realise.