Stadium atmosphere

[FoxesTalker]

Good to see clapper collection points yesterday rather than people handing them out, again took longer to happen than it should have though. It's hopefully another step closer to them being phased out completely, albeit a faint hope.

 

Edited 6 October 2024 by FoxesTalker

[RonnieTodger]

1 hour ago, SemperEadem said:

I miss Enzo really getting the players closer to the fans in the stands at full time. Yesterday they seemed like they wanted to but part of them hesitant.

I think Cooper was hesitant to celebrate too much. 

[Lako42]

It was shit let's be honest. 

 

This will probably annoy a few but I think the section as a whole is a failure. 

 

90% of the people in it couldn't give a **** about singing, it's absolutely shit after the first 5 rows. 

 

 

[ShepshedFox1884]

3 hours ago, Lako42 said:

It was shit let's be honest. 

 

This will probably annoy a few but I think the section as a whole is a failure. 

 

90% of the people in it couldn't give a **** about singing, it's absolutely shit after the first 5 rows. 

 

 

It’s not been around long enough to be a failure and in terms of a section I think it’s very good I just think it’s let down by it being in the part of the ground around the most people who don’t give two shits about any atmosphere apart from when booing the ref. Needs more numbers to properly work though 

[jmono84]

6 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

I miss Enzo really getting the players closer to the fans in the stands at full time. Yesterday they seemed like they wanted to but part of them hesitant.

The sound system was pumped up playing shit! Kills the relationship between fans and players, maybe that’s what the owners want!

[jmono84]

3 hours ago, Lako42 said:

It was shit let's be honest. 

 

This will probably annoy a few but I think the section as a whole is a failure. 

 

90% of the people in it couldn't give a **** about singing, it's absolutely shit after the first 5 rows. 

 

 

I think I’m in this section and it’s so loud and noisy! I’ve loved it since moving from SK2, very knackering but worth it, it's a shame it’s not rubbing off on the rest of the ground. 

[SemperEadem]

36 minutes ago, jmono84 said:

The sound system was pumped up playing shit! Kills the relationship between fans and players, maybe that’s what the owners want!

Audible groan around me when that kicked in when everyone was celebrating at full time.

Edited 6 October 2024 by SemperEadem

[worth_the_wait]

10 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Audible groan around me when that kicked in when every was celebrating at full time.

Every little thing the club do (slightly) better - like not handing out clappers to everyone as they walk in ... is counterbalanced by them doing something stupid, like blasting out sh*t music just when we're ready to applaud the team at the end.  

[iancognito]

4 hours ago, Lako42 said:

It was shit let's be honest. 

 

This will probably annoy a few but I think the section as a whole is a failure. 

 

90% of the people in it couldn't give a **** about singing, it's absolutely shit after the first 5 rows. 

 

 

Not sure it's a failure when all the title celebrations last season were focussed on that corner, it's pretty much recognised as the noisiest section of the ground.

 

What I will say from sitting a couple of blocks away is that if it's going to pull more people in or just get more people involved, the constant drumbeat drowns out as much of the songs as the PA. People will join in with the C'mon Leicester stuff, the When Skies Are Grey etc but too often no matter what's happening in the game there's just a general thudthudthud, you're never going to get 5000 people knowing the words to "crazy but it's true" or "ole ole".

[ShepshedFox1884]

4 minutes ago, iancognito said:

Not sure it's a failure when all the title celebrations last season were focussed on that corner, it's pretty much recognised as the noisiest section of the ground.

 

What I will say from sitting a couple of blocks away is that if it's going to pull more people in or just get more people involved, the constant drumbeat drowns out as much of the songs as the PA. People will join in with the C'mon Leicester stuff, the When Skies Are Grey etc but too often no matter what's happening in the game there's just a general thudthudthud, you're never going to get 5000 people knowing the words to "crazy but it's true" or "ole ole".

Yh there needs to be more focus for me on the moments where fans are more up for it like after an attack that we belt out things like Come on Leicester instead of the 20th rendition of Ole Ole 

[SemperEadem]

On 03/09/2024 at 10:02, SemperEadem said:

Firstly pleased your lad likes going to that area, I think going forward thats how it becomes a real success with getting younger people really into it.

I think the reliance on UFS is a very fair comment, to a degree I would expect there to be as the groups main aim is obviously vocal support. Your point on would others take up the role should they not be there is interesting, certainly more now do start songs which is great. It was evident in the one game where there was an atmosphere boycott from UFS how little was coming from others purely in terms of starting songs but that does seem to have changeed over time, a positive progression.

 

UFS have a strong belief in trying to sing and support for as much of the 90 minutes as possible. That does get on some people's wick as you see comments like 'wish they would shut up for a bit after we have conceded'. My personal view is there is a middle ground there, you don't want to be fully robotic and a slight pause to then go again louder I feel could be looked at.

The thing on the 'old school chants’ is that our song book looking at those ones alone would literally have us sining for about 5 minutes of the 90, so a lot of repetition would be needed which would just bore people silly I reckon. Like Molly Malone is what 25 seconds long if that so I do feel you need the new stuff which largely loops and has the ability to go on longer but go up and down in sound in terms of it being consistent but then say an attack builds and then more back the song.

I do though think there is a pretty good balance on a matchday as UFS certainly do bash out the looping stuff as well as 'Oh when the blues', 'Molly Malone', "forever and ever' etc.

 

Do though as I stated originally need to get more in the wider section singing and certainly more in first halves when the team shoots the other way. 

Some thoughts from me on the song choices there.

[SemperEadem]

These are exactly the sort of conversations a vocal group should be having.

Again I always say it but the matchday table at the ground which was stopped with no reason given (unsurprisingly) would have been perfect for more of this.

Actually get face to face to move forward.

 

Guess the fans forum nights are the option now.

[Vardyshardy]

I don’t know if it’s just me but I’m really not liking the new ‘announcer’. Sounds like a guy working at a fairground or an American news reader and it’s incredibly cheesy 

[Wymsey]

Just now, Vardyshardy said:

I don’t know if it’s just me but I’m really not liking the new ‘announcer’. Sounds like a guy working at a fairground or an American news reader and it’s incredibly cheesy 

What happened to the one who had been doing it for years?

[Vardyshardy]

4 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

What happened to the one who had been doing it for years?

I’ve no idea. But this new one is another cringe thing for me. I hate the over the top inflections. It seems like another Americanism that the club are trying to push

[Nolucklcfc]

1 minute ago, Vardyshardy said:

I’ve no idea. But this new one is another cringe thing for me. I hate the over the top inflections. It seems like another Americanism that the club are trying to push

His tone adds to the CBBC event outside the ground pre match. 

[guest123]

2 hours ago, iancognito said:

Not sure it's a failure when all the title celebrations last season were focussed on that corner, it's pretty much recognised as the noisiest section of the ground.

 

What I will say from sitting a couple of blocks away is that if it's going to pull more people in or just get more people involved, the constant drumbeat drowns out as much of the songs as the PA. People will join in with the C'mon Leicester stuff, the When Skies Are Grey etc but too often no matter what's happening in the game there's just a general thudthudthud, you're never going to get 5000 people knowing the words to "crazy but it's true" or "ole ole".

Said it last season, think Preston at home, the none stop drumming actually encouraged people to sit there mind numbing lay whacking those clappers in G block which everyone moans about 

Edited 6 October 2024 by guest123

[Vardyshardy]

6 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said:

His tone adds to the CBBC event outside the ground pre match. 

Spot on!! 

[Izzy]

2 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

Some thoughts from me on the song choices there.

I thought yesterday in SK1 there was a much better mix of chants than a few weeks ago

 

Nice to hear some of the old classics given an airing 

[1884andforever]

Thoughts below on home atmosphere, Union FS/SK1 section, reputation etc...

 

Firstly, this will probably come across as a complete rant but is meant to be constructive.

 

I would just be interested to see if people are on the same lines as me.  I personally think we have become an anomaly in terms of our home and away support, aside from numbers. Since the title win in particular, I think a lot of our fans lost an element of motivation and desire. It's strange because you would think it would fuel the motivation for more success but when you win the PL and reach the CL quarter-finals for a club like us, people sort of believed we had reached our pinnacle it seems. At home games, to me the main problem is everyone being separated out which makes it difficult to gain any real traction in terms of noise within the ground.

 

I don't think the section has been a complete failure and really like UFS in general, but it certainly hasn't worked as everyone had hoped either. It's too small and aside from the first 5 rows or so, there isn't enough noise from the rest within the section. But even then, it can't be heard on the other side of the ground and to be frank, when you have 20 lads clapping with their arms in the air at the front, when no one else joins in, it's not a good look, sorry. It doesn't give off the impression of a proper club, not that we're one of those anyway with clappers. We lack passion in the fanbase, that's the uncomfortable truth. I look at clubs like Villa, Forest, Leeds, Wolves, Wednesday, even Derby, they seem to have more passion and vocal support than we do, yet all fairly similar sized clubs.

 

We absolutely need a bigger presence near the away fans, L1 has been declining for years and obviously if the section moved to the opposite end both groups could supplement each other. Yes this was trialled once against Brighton in the cup a few years ago but is that really enough to show whether it can work or not? This obviously raises the safe standing topic but if there was a real desire for a change of location, the club might re-consider where safe standing goes. From what I gather, UFS aren't keen on this but it's not working where it is IMHO. Yes the Tifo issue also becomes apparent but do we want a potentially better atmosphere or a handful of Tifo's a season? (impressive Tifo's by the way).

 

The club quite obviously don't help things at all regarding working with UFS and other groups. On away games, I just don't get why it's like it is. Even on TV against Arsenal for example, Justin scores a belter to equalise at 2-2 and visually the celebrations look very average at best. Maybe it's the priority system I don't know. It just pains me how far standards have dropped since Filbert Street. We used to be a proper club, with a proper old style English atmosphere. Now it's European style chanting and a complete library. We aren't the only ones but it's like the soul has been ripped out the club.

 

Why can't everyone be in one place? Why can't it be more authentic? What's happened to us? Aside from Chelsea last season, it's few and far between in terms of seeing proper celebrations from our fans. Preston away was a rare W as an away end but that's all that comes to mind really. This isn't meant as a pop at UFS or anyone in particular but I just don't think the current configuration is working. I want us to be a force again, we can do it but it's gonna take some shift of thinking. However unlikely it may be from the club's side, I think the opposite end of the ground should at least be looked into for the good of the atmosphere, whether that's centrally behind that goal or in P block. We absolutely cannot rely on the alleged expansion to plan anything anymore, we need to improve it ASAP. 

 

Edited 7 October 2024 by 1884andforever

[adam]

I think the drum needs to go from thar section. No one in the kop has any idea what the singing section are singing. Drowned out by the constant drumming. Not sure why it's needed.

[worksopfox]

What i don't understand is why do various sections of the ground insist on sing different songs at the same time.

Love them or loath them, but UFS are trying their best to create an atmosphere.

On behalf of the team, all the ground needs to be as one.

Make it intimidating for the opposition!!!

[niyaminski]

 

14 minutes ago, adam said:

I think the drum needs to go from thar section. No one in the kop has any idea what the singing section are singing. Drowned out by the constant drumming. Not sure why it's needed.

I personally feel that the drum adds a bit more to the chants.

 

Maybe UFS or whoever could do a 3 game trial without the drum though, as we won’t know if you’re right until we try.

 

Or maybe even move the drum along the kop and away from the section abit if the club would allow. Then those in SK2/3 could hear the chants itself as well as the drum, if what you’re saying about the vocals being inaudible is right.

[RonnieTodger]

31 minutes ago, 1884andforever said:

Thoughts below on:

-Home atmosphere

-Union FS/SK1 section 

-Reputation

 

Firstly, this will probably come across as a complete rant, but is meant to be constructive.

 

I would just be interested to see if people are on the same lines as me.  I personally think we have become an anomaly in terms of our home and away support, aside from numbers. Since the title win in particular, I think a lot of our fans lost an element of motivation and desire. It's strange because you would think it would fuel the motivation for more success but when you win the PL and reach the CL quarter-finals for a club like us, people sort of believed we had reached our pinnacle it seems. At home games, to me the main problem is everyone being separated out which makes it difficult to gain any real traction in terms of noise within the ground.

 

I don't think the section has been a complete failure and really like UFS in general, but it certainly hasn't worked as everyone had hoped either. It's too small and aside from the first 5 rows or so, there isn't enough noise from the rest within the section. But even then, it can't be heard on the other side of the ground and to be frank, when you have 20 lads clapping with their arms in the air at the front, when no one else joins in, it's not a good look, sorry. It doesn't give off the impression of a proper club, not that we're one of those anyway with clappers. We lack passion in the fanbase, that's the uncomfortable truth. I look at clubs like Villa, Forest, Leeds, Wolves, Wednesday, even Derby, they seem to have more passion and vocal support than we do, yet all fairly similar sized clubs.

 

We absolutely need a bigger presence near the away fans, L1 has been declining for years and obviously if the section moved to the opposite end both groups could supplement each other. Yes this was trialled once against Brighton in the cup a few years ago but is that really enough to show whether it can work or not? This obviously raises the safe standing topic but if there was a real desire for a change of location, the club might re-consider where safe standing goes. From what I gather, UFS aren't keen on this but it's not working where it is IMHO. Yes the Tifo issue also becomes apparent but do we want a potentially better atmosphere or a handful of Tifo's a season? (impressive Tifo's by the way).

 

The club quite obviously don't help things at all regarding working with UFS and other groups. On away games, I just don't get why it's like it is. Even on TV against Arsenal for example, Justin scores a belter to equalise at 2-2 and visually the celebrations look very average at best. Maybe it's the priority system I don't know. It just pains me how far standards have dropped since Filbert Street. We used to be a proper club, with a proper old style English atmosphere. Now it's European style chanting and a complete library. We aren't the only ones but it's like the soul has been ripped out the club.

 

Why can't everyone be in one place? Why can't it be more authentic? What's happened to us? Aside from Chelsea last season, it's few and far between in terms of seeing proper celebrations from our fans. Preston away was a rare W as an away end but that's all that comes to mind really. This isn't meant as a pop at UFS or anyone in particular but I just don't think the current configuration is working. I want us to be a force again, we can do it but it's gonna take some shift of thinking. However unlikely it may be from the club's side, I think the opposite end of the ground should at least be looked into for the good of the atmosphere, whether that's centrally behind that goal or in P block. We absolutely cannot rely on the alleged expansion to plan anything anymore, we need to improve it ASAP. 

Some good points. The main one I agree with is our fans’ general lack of engagement compared to other clubs’.

 

You look at the likes of Derby, Middlesbrough and Hull (all in new-ish grounds) with proper “ends” behind the goal. They’re going nuts and it’s not performative either.

 

We’ve got swathes of NPCs that are just not arsed if we win, lose or draw.

Edited 6 October 2024 by RonnieTodger

[Nolucklcfc]

4 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

Some good points. The main one I agree with is our fans’ general lack of engagement compared to other clubs’.

 

You look at the likes of Derby, Middlesbrough and Hull (all in new-ish grounds) with proper “ends” behind the goal. They’re going nuts and it’s not performative either.

 

We’ve got swathes of NPCs that are just not arsed if we win, lose or draw.

I don’t get it either. So many people are just not invested at all. Even in the section, people just on their phones, not watching be game. Not like it’s a cheap hobby either, it’s bizarre.