I've had enough

[Paninistickers]

On 13/11/2024 at 18:51, The Quick Brown Fox said:

have a season ticket but honestly I go because I have it

Then give it up. Let someone else enjoy the chance to go 

[deep blue]

3 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Then give it up. Let someone else enjoy the chance to go 

Misuse of the word "enjoy" here 

[Foxmeister]

I follow a couple of non-league clubs now, I'm still invested in Leicester but I've massively fallen out of love with the EPL and international football.

[SK3Blue]

On 14/11/2024 at 19:34, Realist Guy In The Room said:

I'm 44 and i'm about there.

 

I live a fair distance away from the City so I don't get to as many games anymore (maybe 4 home games a season plus 1 London away).  When I'm free on a matchday i'll watch it but I rarely get excited when they score and don't get upset when they concede.  It really doesn't feel like i'm connected to it anymore.  This has happened since the FA cup win.  It's not so much the mismanagement of the club (which is hugely frustrating), for me, it's more the fact that there isn't any desire anymore.  I've seen them win every domestic honour we've competed in and I have no expectation that it'll happen again.

 

It's quite sad but when I do come back for games, it's shit.  Even if we win.  I was back for Plymouth at home last year which we won 4-0 and the amount of moaning and negativity was exactly the same as the Forest game this year.  Really unpleasant atmosphere, crap food, expensive beer and the game is just unrecognisable from what I grew up with.

I’d rather go to a gig these days, at least you know it’s going to be at least 7/10 if not better. 
 

Games barely hold my interest either on TV or in the stadium. There’s no atmosphere, full of tourists at the big clubs, half n half scarf waving entitled fans with their ‘please can I have’ banners. 
 

The Football is like Chess. One player dares to take on another, but turns away, passes square, then back. 
 

I dare say a lot of people are in a cycle of holding a season ticket purely because they want that emotional attachment to the club, rather than it being something to look forward to, it’s become more about meeting up with a mate for a crap expensive pint, because they’ve done it for the last 10 years, it’s habit and ‘it gets me out of the house’ 

 

We live 25 miles away and our short journey home would always be filled with discussion about the game, now there’s just nothing to talk about which says it all about the current state of Football. 
 

 

Edited 17 November 2024 by SK3Blue

[Winstonthedog]

All very true ... the build up to a game started days before and the talking points a couple of days after ... the game needs a reality check ....  maybe a bigger club going under ... so the owners begin to realise the game actually belongs to the fans and not big money or television 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

1 hour ago, SK3Blue said:

I’d rather go to a gig these days, at least you know it’s going to be at least 7/10 if not better. 
 

Games barely hold my interest either on TV or in the stadium. There’s no atmosphere, full of tourists at the big clubs, half n half scarf waving entitled fans with their ‘please can I have’ banners. 
 

The Football is like Chess. One players dares to take on another, but turns away, passes square, then back. 
 

I dare say a lot of people are in a cycle of holding a season ticket purely because they want that emotional attachment to the club, but rather than it being something to look forward to, it’s become more about meeting up with a mate for a crap expensive pint, because they’ve done it for the last 10 years, it’s habit and ‘it gets me out of the house’ 

 

We live 25 miles away and our short journey home would always be filled with discussion about the game, now there’s just nothing to talk about which says it all about the current state of Football. 
 

 

100% agree. I live 3 hours away, and currently my ‘loyalty’ is being tested to the max. If the modern state of football wasn’t bad enough, the club don’t really do a great deal to make it appealing (expensive crap beer like you say). And what’s gone on the last few seasons on the pitch and where we are with Cooper is little incentive either.

 

I had an ST between 04-07, and since then spent many years as a member. I got an ST again in the Europa years when in hindsight we were on the slide. But I spent so long as a member, and applying for an ST, I am loathed to give it up. It’s a real conflict. The only real perk I see of being an ST holder is more likely to get away tickets and also for big showpiece games at Wembley -  but we’re a million miles away from that at the moment.

[henry56]

Mine’s  a 3 hour plus journey and for the first  time I have decided not to bother for the televised games in December . Just not worth it to watch dull unexciting and almost inevitable defeats . 

[Pliskin]

Genuinely don’t think I can be bothered to go, and I don’t think I will…… won’t consider going until Cooper is gone. He stays, it is just going to get worse and worse and worse until we inevitably end up bottom and it’s all too late. 

[Xen]

44 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

100% agree. I live 3 hours away, and currently my ‘loyalty’ is being tested to the max. If the modern state of football wasn’t bad enough, the club don’t really do a great deal to make it appealing (expensive crap beer like you say). And what’s gone on the last few seasons on the pitch and where we are with Cooper is little incentive either.

 

I had an ST between 04-07, and since then spent many years as a member. I got an ST again in the Europa years when in hindsight we were on the slide. But I spent so long as a member, and applying for an ST, I am loathed to give it up. It’s a real conflict. The only real perk I see of being an ST holder is more likely to get away tickets and also for big showpiece games at Wembley -  but we’re a million miles away from that at the moment.

In exactly the same boat. Living up in Manchester now, and keeping my ST more because I'd struggle to get it back (without doing the 3-year dance of membership and random tickets around the ground to get points) rather than any true desire to get on a train and take up an entire day to get down to watch what seems to be increasingly inevitable turgid football. Especially when I can watch most matches on TV or - failing that - a stream somewhere.

 

It's hard to get excited about the club, anymore, to be honest.

[SK3Blue]

58 minutes ago, Winstonthedog said:

All very true ... the build up to a game started days before and the talking points a couple of days after ... the game needs a reality check ....  maybe a bigger club going under ... so the owners begin to realise the game actually belongs to the fans and not big money or television 

You are right, the excitement would build up and you would still be talking about it at work or school on the Monday. 
 

Saturated coverage, too much Football, it’s done to death, I personally don’t care for this XG stat stuff, but the analysis paralysis is in full flow and you’ve got stats people, coaches and all sorts of others telling footballers not to do this and that, over coaching and draining the fun out of it!

[Spudulike]

I'm also a fair old drive away (2.5 to 3 hours) and it's become more of a struggle to get motivated to tackle the M42 roadworks than ever. Gave up away matches a long time ago and not intending to come up for midweek matches anymore. I expect the resale platform is going to be busy.

[ALC Fox]

On 11/11/2024 at 18:41, Ashley said:

I put a similar post on here in the summer when KDH left. 

 

I feel so dis associated with Leicester to the point where I was just going to go England home and away and maybe do the odd non league game here and there. 

 

So angry with the way that the club's been ran in recent years. We were arguably the best ran club in the country at one point now we are a right mess. 

 

I don't know how many of you listen to the high performance podcast but give Paul Barber(Brighton CEO) one a listen - makes you even more angry comparing it to our clubs failings.

 

Heads need to wobble at our club, even if we go back to black and start again. 

 

Edit: Paul Barber High Performance podcast link

 

 

 

 

Interesting one re KDH.

 

Him leaving to satisfy PSR and then barely play for Chelsea, coupled with us resetting the number of games in which we have named academy graduates in the matchday squad, really does stick in the craw.

 

Add those things to Chelsea pinching our manager, who was supposed to represent a major reset in how the club plays football, which was to affect both recruitment of new players and how the academy trains it's up-and-coming stars.

 

At the moment, it feels like last season was a blip and we're acting like any other club scrapping around desperate to stay in the Promised Land.

 

Contrast that to the description of the club during the 2015/16 season. How revolutionary we were at recruiting not just players of the right ability but also the right personality. And how players with drastically different personalities complemented one another, protected each other on and off the pitch, and loved training and playing games together.

 

Then you consider the events that the club used to hold where knowledge was shared between clubs (e.g. on groundskeeping). If you've read Soccernomics, you may be aware of the theory that clubs on the continent are historically more successful because it was just easier, geographically, for ideas to be shared and proliferated widely.

 

With hindsight, these attitudes that were previously prevalent at the club were clearly spearheaded by Pearson, Shakespeare and Walsh. The opportunity to lay down the foundations for success beyond that period has been missed by the club.

 

Puel did an admirable job in reducing the average age of the squad and lifting us away from a position where we'd be consistently fighting relegation. Then Rodgers was the right guy at the right time to take us to the next level - but the wrong guy at trying to sustain that (keeping our better players instead of selling and reinvesting, leading to money not being brought in at a time when purse strings had been tightening because of COVID, and then identifying substandard squad fillers).

 

I think, maybe, that the owners are perhaps too invested in whatever management team they appoint. When it goes right, it looks great. But forward planning in order to mitigate the appointment of a bad coach or one who just doesn't work out is non-existent. 

 

Brighton is an example of where that forward planning is going very, very right.