Recruitment Team

[Chrysalis]

20 hours ago, honeybradger said:

Our transfer record over the last 5 years has been abysmal. Even since Glover has come in we've signed Souttar, Coady, Skipp, Okoli, Kristiansen for around £70mil. It just awful and something needs to change fast about the amount we are spending and the quality of players we are bringing in otherwise we are going to be in a right mess very soon (if we are not already in one).

Same the other way, instead of getting rid of squad players, we keep getting rid of our best players.

[ian__marshall]

14 hours ago, HarryDee8 said:

3/4s of our recruitment in has been bench warmers at other teams.

 

How are teams like Brighton, Bournemouth, Fulham, Brentford finding players to keep them mid table and above. 

All appear to have adopted strong statistical modelling for their player recruitment. Add in the fact that aside from Fulham who seem to be going down the route of becoming an Arsenal B Team; because the signings are based on identifying talent in markets others aren't fishing in, typically their signings initially are relatively low key/low cost until they make a name for themselves. Therefore, whilst they are inevitably seeing good returns, there will be many that don't make the grade but because of their low profile you'll never hear of them and from the outside looking in they appear to have a high success rate. 

[Silverfox14]

Mr Glover needs to be busier than Santa over Christmas!

[reynard]

2 hours ago, Silverfox14 said:

Mr Glover needs to be busier than Santa over Christmas!

It will be too late then. he needs to have been busy since August. His role is surely to identify targets others do the legal contract work etc.

 

We need 4 players in in the first week of January but we all know we won't and we'll be dithering around until the final week and end up with one signing on loan.

 

Don't be held to ransom. Give firm deadlines for decisions to sign and if they don't make it then move on quickly. We don't have time to waste.

[CaliFOXnia]

7 hours ago, Sly said:

Maybe it isn’t on the recruitment team, but the people holding the purse strings to spend money? 
 

We’ve only got to look at Lookman, which was a no brainer at £12m, when you consider what we spent on others. 

Honestly, the signings we did make take the limelight when it comes to how poor our recruitment has been but this is THE standout example of just how slapdash and scattergun our approach has been for multiple windows now. 

We shirked at the 12 million that allowed us to cover both flanks and an option through the middle on a single British player with a clear high ceiling. One of the decisions which moved us nicely head long into the situation we find ourselves in with J.Ayew starting Premier League games for us out wide. 

Sheer incompetence and arrogance - "we'll be alright if we do the bare minimum" attitude on display far too often from the heirarchy. 

[jayfox26]

On 22/12/2024 at 15:15, CrispinLA in Texas said:

Sack them all and bring back Steve Walsh at any cost....if Rudkin can swallow his pride

 

Rudkin wouldn't need to swallow his pride as he'd be included in your initial point of "sack them all". 

[Bluearmyfox28]

Hard to judge the recruitment team, the one time we’ve had a gaffer who’s happy to take chances on young players from foreign leagues the recruitment team sign talents like (Fatawu and Mads) how much is the recruitment team or the management in place? They can only make suggestions after all.

[CosbehFox]

50 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

Hard to judge the recruitment team, the one time we’ve had a gaffer who’s happy to take chances on young players from foreign leagues the recruitment team sign talents like (Fatawu and Mads) how much is the recruitment team or the management in place? They can only make suggestions after all.

On the button. The club is ran in such a mixed up way that it’s not clear in the slightest. Allows people to hide from responsibility 

[Corky]

We have been in the Premier League for a decade and have ended up with this squad. Even more remarkably, most of our better players were signed outside of the division (Vardy, Hermansen, Winks, Fatawu). 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[HarryDee8]

Maybe Top and rudkin are better off improving their recruiting network. It can't be that hard to find players that are better then what we got?

 

Surely bargains are out there to be found if we work to a known budget and look in the right areas

 

[JimJams]

Martyn Glover signings before joining us.

 

Saints:

19/20

Ings

Che Adams

Djenepo

Danso Loan.

20/21

Walker-Peters

Ibrahima Diallo

Salisu

Walcott Loan

Minamino Loan

21/22

Livramento

Adam Armstrong

Perraud

Lyanco

Walcott Free

Summer 22 Pre Leicester

Lavia

Bazunu

Bella-Kotchap

Mara

Caleta-Car

Edozie

Aribo

Larios

Maitland Niles Loan

 

 

So about 2 successes there.

 

[HankMarvin]

12 minutes ago, JimJams said:

Martyn Glover signings before joining us.

 

Saints:

19/20

Ings

Che Adams

Djenepo

Danso Loan.

20/21

Walker-Peters

Ibrahima Diallo

Salisu

Walcott Loan

Minamino Loan

21/22

Livramento

Adam Armstrong

Perraud

Lyanco

Walcott Free

Summer 22 Pre Leicester

Lavia

Bazunu

Bella-Kotchap

Mara

Caleta-Car

Edozie

Aribo

Larios

Maitland Niles Loan

 

 

So about 2 successes there.

 

Shields is credited for helping Southampton sign City pair Juan Larios and Samuel Edozie this summer, as well as Ainsley Maitland-Niles of Arsenal and Rangers’ Joe Aribo. A deal was already in place for Romeo Laviato join the club from City, although it is accepted Shields played an influential role behind the scenes.

 

Pep actually credited Shields taking them all from City 

[JimJams]

Yeah they're just down as ones signed whilst he was still officially head scout.

Given Lavia was one of the two I considered successes, that makes it worse.

[deep blue]

15 hours ago, MonarchFox said:

Couldn't afford to get him due to FFP.  We needed a defender to replace Ffona, sadly we still do

People over-worry about FFP.  Losing 6 points is nothing compared to the gain you can make with a decent signing.