General News Thread

[urban.spaceman]

49 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

Ok so according to all experts, is UK growth slowing or increasing? 

 

We all know the answer dude, even  or  can't help Labour.

 

 

The economy performed better than expected in June, and the ONS also revised up figures for April - instead of shrinking by 0.3%, it now said the economy contracted by 0.1%.

Experts suggested that hot, dry weather helped lift activity in the construction industry, which expanded by 1.2% in the three months to June.

In the services sector, computer programming including consultancy, software installation and disaster recovery helped push up growth. 

Vehicle rentals and health services such as doctors' surgeries, hospitals and nursing homes also boosted the economy.

Retailing dragged on growth over the period but picked up towards the end.

Compared with other members of the G7 - the world's richest nations - the UK economy grew the fastest in the first three months of the year, but not the second.

However, taken together, the UK may have had the fastest growth in the first half of 2025.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0ml42ww740o

 

To be clear, the bit in bold is what I was saying 'yes' to. We DO have the fastest growing economy in the G7. The economy also shrunk in the last quarter; which might give you a clue about the state current global economy. Also:

 

 

But Ruth Gregory, deputy chief UK economist at Capital Economics, said it was doubtful the country "will maintain this pace of growth" between July and September.

"The weak global economy will remain a drag on UK growth for a while yet," she said.

"The full drag on business investment from April's tax rises has yet to be felt. And the ongoing speculation about further tax rises in the Autumn Budget will probably keep consumers in a cautious mood."

 

Worth noting that most of Labour's policies haven't even come into law yet. It's somewhat early to be calling Labour a disaster. 

[Wymsey]

2 minutes ago, ithuriel said:

Remember something similar but cant remember exactly when.

There was one in June:

 

https://metro.co.uk/2025/06/08/man-found-dead-car-asda-car-park-leicester-23359897/

 

[Dr The Singh]

5 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

 

 

The economy performed better than expected in June, and the ONS also revised up figures for April - instead of shrinking by 0.3%, it now said the economy contracted by 0.1%.

Experts suggested that hot, dry weather helped lift activity in the construction industry, which expanded by 1.2% in the three months to June.

In the services sector, computer programming including consultancy, software installation and disaster recovery helped push up growth. 

Vehicle rentals and health services such as doctors' surgeries, hospitals and nursing homes also boosted the economy.

Retailing dragged on growth over the period but picked up towards the end.

Compared with other members of the G7 - the world's richest nations - the UK economy grew the fastest in the first three months of the year, but not the second.

However, taken together, the UK may have had the fastest growth in the first half of 2025.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0ml42ww740o

 

To be clear, the bit in bold is what I was saying 'yes' to. We DO have the fastest growing economy in the G7. The economy also shrunk in the last quarter; which might give you a clue about the state current global economy. Also:

 

 

But Ruth Gregory, deputy chief UK economist at Capital Economics, said it was doubtful the country "will maintain this pace of growth" between July and September.

"The weak global economy will remain a drag on UK growth for a while yet," she said.

"The full drag on business investment from April's tax rises has yet to be felt. And the ongoing speculation about further tax rises in the Autumn Budget will probably keep consumers in a cautious mood."

 

Worth noting that most of Labour's policies haven't even come into law yet. It's somewhat early to be calling Labour a disaster. 

 first 3 months and not the second.  What's gonna happen IN november my friend?????

[urban.spaceman]

36 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

Evidence please, so every protester was far right.  Was that moment who got punished far right for a tweet.  Nonsense, I lived in a white ghetto most of my youth, people have no understanding of people.

I didn't say that, and I'm not sure the government said every protester was. But if the far right are protesting something it'd probably be a good idea to not protest alongside them if you don't want to be considered far right. 

[urban.spaceman]

2 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

 first 3 months and not the second.  What's gonna happen IN november my friend?????

Hopefully tax rises on the richest, especially the ones who whinge the most. 

[Dr The Singh]

2 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Hopefully tax rises on the richest, especially the ones who whinge the most. 

What about growth, all analyst are predicting 0.  Some even recession.

 

Poor old Rachel may even have to go the IMF with her begging bowl.

 

And still you say Labour are not in the shites.

[Dr The Singh]

7 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

I didn't say that, and I'm not sure the government said every protester was. But if the far right are protesting something it'd probably be a good idea to not protest alongside them if you don't want to be considered far right. 

They the government have stated them as a  blanket 'far right', that is totally correct.  The government didnt say some or few or majority.  There stance was clear, I don't understand the confusion

 

[BKLFox]

36 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

If you mean the woman that has just got out of jail, she broke a law passed by Thatcher and was sentenced under sentencing guidelines introduced by Boris Johnson. Labour had zero to do with any sentences. 

 

And when it comes to the broader point about allowing protest, the Tories introduced a law that essentially made it illegal to protest and illegal to offend anybody. Labour, like everybody else on the left, voted against and warned of it's dangers. But the Tories and their fans cheered it through to deal with left wing protest. And now look, you don't like it when it's also illegal for right wingers to do the same things. It's a Tory law, a bad one the left warned everybody about. 

Because you brought her up, it’s not so much the ‘law’ that is at question here but the fact she was being denied bail.

Had she taken it to court the chances are she would have been found not guilty like that other berk but at the time of arrest she and those around her were denied bail and told they would probably sit in custody for 6-7mths+ due to backlogs, you could argue a ruse to get her/them to plead guilty quickly and have it dealt with and have her/them home for T as nobody expected a mother, carer and child minder to get a 3yr sentence for a misguided tweet.

Why was the other berk granted bail despite his “misguidance” having a far greater reach being televised, locked into history as recorded & fundamentally said in front of a live baying crowd, now surely that would whip up more froff than stumbling across a random’s tweet 🤷‍♂️ 

 

Which part of Thatchers / Boris’s law differed between the 2 cases?

 

[CornwallFox]

4 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

What about growth, all analyst are predicting 0.  Some even recession.

 

Poor old Rachel may even have to go the IMF with her begging bowl.

 

And still you say Labour are not in the shites.

You clearly don't have an open mind on any of this. 

You really think Rachel Reeves will be going to the IMF? Sorry but you've fallen for the nonsense circulating on social media.

You're ignoring that we're doing comparatively well, though still not great, and instead point to random future predictions. 

This isn't an honest discussion. You're not open minded.

[CornwallFox]

6 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

They the government have stated them as a  blanket 'far right', that is totally correct.  The government didnt say some or few or majority.  There stance was clear, I don't understand the confusion

 

They are far right. 

Tell me who is further right in this country than the reform mob right now. 

You're getting all excited about somebody being sent to jail for potentially inciting the arson of a hotel containing immigrants.

They're the BNP in new clothes.

Edited 6 September 2025 by CornwallFox

[Dr The Singh]

Just now, CornwallFox said:

They are far right. 

Tell me who is further right in this country than the reform mob right now. 

They're the BNP in new clothes.

Please, Cornwall, you.cant really believe that.

[CornwallFox]

4 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

Because you brought her up, it’s not so much the ‘law’ that is at question here but the fact she was being denied bail.

Had she taken it to court the chances are she would have been found not guilty like that other berk but at the time of arrest she and those around her were denied bail and told they would probably sit in custody for 6-7mths+ due to backlogs, you could argue a ruse to get her/them to plead guilty quickly and have it dealt with and have her/them home for T as nobody expected a mother, carer and child minder to get a 3yr sentence for a misguided tweet.

Why was the other berk granted bail despite his “misguidance” having a far greater reach being televised, locked into history as recorded & fundamentally said in front of a live baying crowd, now surely that would whip up more froff than stumbling across a random’s tweet 🤷‍♂️ 

 

Which part of Thatchers / Boris’s law differed between the 2 cases?

 

She pleaded guilty and he didn't. Tbh I don't know enough about the two cases to go into it in detail. But from what I've read there are clear differences hence different outcomes.

[CornwallFox]

2 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

Please, Cornwall, you.cant really believe that.

Then answer my question: who is further right than the mob turning up at hotels attempting to break in or set fire to them? They are far right. 

Edited 6 September 2025 by CornwallFox

[Dr The Singh]

3 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

You clearly don't have an open mind on any of this. 

You really think Rachel Reeves will be going to the IMF? Sorry but you've fallen for the nonsense circulating on social media.

You're ignoring that we're doing comparatively well, though still not great, and instead point to random future predictions. 

This isn't an honest discussion. You're not open minded.

I read various news outlets,.all are differing, non are saying the economy is going to grow to any extend.  They all say growth is going to slow down.

 

Please enlighten my Cornwall, can you provide those sources projecting otherwise.

[CornwallFox]

4 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

Please, Cornwall, you.cant really believe that.

I'll add, here is part of the BNP manifesto from 2010:

 

Cut public spending on immigration, asylum, EU membership and foreign aid, which the BNP claim accounts for more than £40bn

Cut £18bn it says is spent on tackling global warming, which it describes as "unproved science"

Raise personal tax-free allowance on earnings to £12,500 and inheritance tax threshold to £1m

Work for reduction in Council Tax through the slashing of all "politically correct council functions" and "diversity" schemes

[Dr The Singh]

1 minute ago, CornwallFox said:

She pleaded guilty and he didn't. Tbh I don't know enough about the two cases to go into it in detail. But from what I've read there are clear differences hence different outcomes.

A angry dad whose kid has been subject to abuse?  There close families.and friends, who also want retribution.

 

The Shere Punjab and SAS that protect kids from such filth

 

Are they because they do not believe in the justice,.does not make them far right.

[Dr The Singh]

Just now, CornwallFox said:

I'll add, here is part of the BNP manifesto from 2010:

 

Cut public spending on immigration, asylum, EU membership and foreign aid, which the BNP claim accounts for more than £40bn

Cut £18bn it says is spent on tackling global warming, which it describes as "unproved science"

Raise personal tax-free allowance on earnings to £12,500 and inheritance tax threshold to £1m

Work for reduction in Council Tax through the slashing of all "politically correct council functions" and "diversity" schemes

I hate to think every protester was BNP, but the reality is, most people are disenchanted with the government.

[CornwallFox]

Just now, Dr The Singh said:

I hate to think every protester was BNP, but the reality is, most people are disenchanted with the government.

That's one thing, but I'm talking about the whipping up of hatred towards asylum seekers by reform, GB news and similar. Then the mobs you complain shouldn't be treated as far right. Strangely you never answer the question about who is further fight and the parallels between reform policy and bnp policy. 

I'm going to leave the conversation now. 

[BKLFox]

1 hour ago, Robo61 said:

Ye, but what about the boats😉

Well in fairness he’s just about smashed the gangs as well.

He’s paid France £1bn to see them safely into the water then gets the coastguard to pick them up, so as long as they can travel safely through the custom free EU then there’s no need for the middle men..gangs smashed ✅ 🤷‍♂️ 

[Dahnsouff]

The reason this and other Country’s are in peril, is because we are set against each other by significant actors, be they parties, individuals, companies, ethereal institutions, or others funded by these.

This attitude of righteousness prevents empathy and compromise and where victory is seen as a lack of moving from one’s original point of view.

Basically listening has been replaced by shouting.

 

[Dr The Singh]

2 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

That's one thing, but I'm talking about the whipping up of hatred towards asylum seekers by reform, GB news and similar. Then the mobs you complain shouldn't be treated as far right. Strangely you never answer the question about who is further fight and the parallels between reform policy and bnp policy. 

I'm going to leave the conversation now. 

Ok I will answer it.  Its because I have no affiliation to either.  

 

But I will give.my opinion, as spoken with my friend @leicsmac, Reform will use the mighty Sikhs as a bastion of true integration and when the need is not there, the fear os they will turn on us.  BNP are just scum

[urban.spaceman]

2 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

I hate to think every protester was BNP, but the reality is, most people are disenchanted with the government.

Most people are unfortunately unaware of a) the reprehensible state the country was left in by the Tories, b) how extremely serious the situation is, nor how vulnerable we are; or c) how long it will take to turn things around. As in, Harry Maguire levels of turning circles. This is not a quick fix. 

[Dr The Singh]

Just now, urban.spaceman said:

Most people are unfortunately unaware of a) the reprehensible state the country was left in by the Tories, b) how extremely serious the situation is, nor how vulnerable we are; or c) how long it will take to turn things around. As in, Harry Maguire levels of turning circles. This is not a quick fix. 

Thats Labours fault

[urban.spaceman]

Just now, Dr The Singh said:

Thats Labours fault

[Dr The Singh]

2 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

but seriously, Labours communication and insight and update to the public is awful.