General News Thread

[urban.spaceman]

1 minute ago, Dr The Singh said:

but seriously, Labours communication and insight and update to the public is awful.

Now that, we can agree on. 

[urban.spaceman]

(though it should be noted that a lot of the general public are thick as mince and the Tory rags have been an utter national disgrace for decades now)

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, urban.spaceman said:

Now that, we can agree on. 

To be fair, isn’t that all parties?

[Dr The Singh]

Just now, urban.spaceman said:

(though it should be noted that a lot of the general public are thick as mince and the Tory rags have been an utter national disgrace for decades now)

Very true 👍 

 

We have generations of.society that have not.progressed.

[Dr The Singh]

1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

To be fair, isn’t that all parties?

Reform are doing a better job at the mo

[leicsmac]

12 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

Well in fairness he’s just about smashed the gangs as well.

He’s paid France £1bn to see them safely into the water then gets the coastguard to pick them up, so as long as they can travel safely through the custom free EU then there’s no need for the middle men..gangs smashed ✅ 🤷‍♂️ 

Well, if we're going to be facetious about it we can then look forward to the next UK government that will both make the leading problem that creates migrants an order of magnitude worse, and then refuse all of them entry and get on with business while million of other people die.

 

Problem solved. We're due a good population crash and we don't want it to be the "right kind" of people, after all. 

 

8 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

The reason this and other Country’s are in peril, is because we are set against each other by significant actors, be they parties, individuals, companies, ethereal institutions, or others funded by these.

This attitude of righteousness prevents empathy and compromise and where victory is seen as a lack of moving from one’s original point of view.

Basically listening has been replaced by shouting.

 

Yep. At a time where lack of unity will only create much bigger problems that will then destroy vital resources, fueling that division still more as the bottom tier of Maslow becomes very precarious.

 

"Die historic on the Fury Road!"

 

 

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, Dr The Singh said:

Reform are doing a better job at the mo

True, talk to only your base (both current and intended) via the requisite concerns is a vote winner

[urban.spaceman]

1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

To be fair, isn’t that all parties?

In fairness Reform are doing an incredible job of gaslighting their voters into voting to remove their own human rights. See the post above yours for why. 

[leicsmac]

7 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

but seriously, Labours communication and insight and update to the public is awful.

 

4 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Now that, we can agree on. 

 

3 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

(though it should be noted that a lot of the general public are thick as mince and the Tory rags have been an utter national disgrace for decades now)

Communicating any kind of scientific issue in particular in a way that can be appealing to the electorate enough to get action on is incredibly difficult right now. Covid showed that, and that was just a taste of what's to come.

 

And when such issues are sometimes vital, that's not a good thing.

[Dr The Singh]

Just now, leicsmac said:

 

 

Communicating any kind of scientific issue in particular in a way that can be appealing to the electorate enough to get action on is incredibly difficult right now. Covid showed that, and that was just a taste of what's to come.

 

And when such issues are sometimes vital, that's not a good thing.

Honestly, the source is the most important thing, people need to engage, belive and authenticate with it.  Authenticity is the key.

 

A lawyer, who has no real life experiences is not going bang it.

 

A guy who sells himself as a pub goer, man from the streets, sells.  Eg Boris, Farage.

 

Politics needs to change they need people like me, from the streets to success.

 

 

[Dr The Singh]

6 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

True, talk to only your base (both current and intended) via the requisite concerns is a vote winner

Absolutely, but Labour's poor performance and not adjusting to reality has propelled this.  Because Labour are full of morons,.any decent CEO or corporate leader would see this a mile away and adjust well in advance

 

[BKLFox]

5 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

I hate to think every protester was BNP, but the reality is, most people are disenchanted with the government.

I’d echo that Dr S, anybody showing any support to flag waving is being labelled far right but I see a lot of this as a call about the complete establishment not solely about immigration, yes maybe the illegal immigration was the final nail to kick start this showing but it’s not the be all and end all.

I honestly don’t think it’s particularly because it’s a Labour government I think any party would get it and this is perhaps a show to the entire establishment the country’s had enough of lies and false promises.

Every new term they offer up the same promises of more money in people’s pockets, better infrastructure, investment in this industry or that sector and the crowning jewel which wins votes, the we’ll bring back the NHS to best in class and the worlds envy…but at the end of every term nothing has changed and in most cases it’s gone backwards.

 

As a light analogy I could liken it to the much referenced on here ‘happy clappers’ going along to every game sit watch clap and go home, they anger so many people on here because it doesn’t show the owners of fan displeasure.

Now what can we general members of the public do to force change, yes vote for a different party, but then we find we are getting the same results, so for me I’d like to think the country wide show of flags and this rally on the 13th is about providing a wake up call to those in charge, regardless of party, that we’ve had enough and things need to change, let’s stop playing the same formation in the hope that you get a different result (if you will).

 

I also get Labour have only been in a year and Rome wasn’t built in a day but at the same time we still see the same players lining up in the same formation.

[Dr The Singh]

Just now, BKLFox said:

I’d echo that Dr S, anybody showing any support to flag waving is being labelled far right but I see a lot of this as a call about the complete establishment not solely about immigration, yes maybe the illegal immigration was the final nail to kick start this showing but it’s not the be all and end all.

I honestly don’t think it’s particularly because it’s a Labour government I think any party would get it and this is perhaps a show to the entire establishment the country’s had enough of lies and false promises.

Every new term they offer up the same promises of more money in people’s pockets, better infrastructure, investment in this industry or that sector and the crowning jewel which wins votes, the we’ll bring back the NHS to best in class and the worlds envy…but at the end of every term nothing has changed and in most cases it’s gone backwards.

 

As a light analogy I could liken it to the much referenced on here ‘happy clappers’ going along to every game sit watch clap and go home, they anger so many people on here because it doesn’t show the owners of fan displeasure.

Now what can we general members of the public do to force change, yes vote for a different party, but then we find we are getting the same results, so for me I’d like to think the country wide show of flags and this rally on the 13th is about providing a wake up call to those in charge, regardless of party, that we’ve had enough and things need to change, let’s stop playing the same formation in the hope that you get a different result (if you will).

 

I also get Labour have only been in a year and Rome wasn’t built in a day but at the same time we still see the same players lining up in the same formation.

agree totally.my friend, other than the last paragraph, I have little hope, but hope to be proven wrong 

[leicsmac]

6 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

Honestly, the source is the most important thing, people need to engage, belive and authenticate with it.  Authenticity is the key.

 

A lawyer, who has no real life experiences is not going bang it.

 

A guy who sells himself as a pub goer, man from the streets, sells.  Eg Boris, Farage.

 

Politics needs to change they need people like me, from the streets to success.

 

 

Boris and Farage sell the illusion of authenticity, rather than the real thing. That's a big part of the problem tbh - well, on scientific policy where the facts have to speak for themselves no matter who is selling them, anyway. 

 

 

[Dahnsouff]

3 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

Absolutely, but Labour's poor performance and not adjusting to reality has propelled this.  Because Labour are full of morons,.any decent CEO or corporate leader would see this a mile away and adjust well in advance

Career politicians are a problem, no matter the stripe. I suppose next is our adoption of career scientists or career virologists as seem to be in vogue in The Land of the Free.

[leicsmac]

6 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

I’d echo that Dr S, anybody showing any support to flag waving is being labelled far right but I see a lot of this as a call about the complete establishment not solely about immigration, yes maybe the illegal immigration was the final nail to kick start this showing but it’s not the be all and end all.

I honestly don’t think it’s particularly because it’s a Labour government I think any party would get it and this is perhaps a show to the entire establishment the country’s had enough of lies and false promises.

Every new term they offer up the same promises of more money in people’s pockets, better infrastructure, investment in this industry or that sector and the crowning jewel which wins votes, the we’ll bring back the NHS to best in class and the worlds envy…but at the end of every term nothing has changed and in most cases it’s gone backwards.

 

As a light analogy I could liken it to the much referenced on here ‘happy clappers’ going along to every game sit watch clap and go home, they anger so many people on here because it doesn’t show the owners of fan displeasure.

Now what can we general members of the public do to force change, yes vote for a different party, but then we find we are getting the same results, so for me I’d like to think the country wide show of flags and this rally on the 13th is about providing a wake up call to those in charge, regardless of party, that we’ve had enough and things need to change, let’s stop playing the same formation in the hope that you get a different result (if you will).

 

I also get Labour have only been in a year and Rome wasn’t built in a day but at the same time we still see the same players lining up in the same formation.

And then the discussion comes back to exactly what this change that people want is, rather than just the wooly concept of it.

 

Policy has to be specific to have much meaning beyond soundbites. 

[Dr The Singh]

Just now, Dahnsouff said:

Career politicians are a problem, no matter the stripe. I suppose next is our adoption of career scientists or career virologists as seem to be in vogue in The Land of the Free.

Yeah your right.  The moral fibre of society is eroding, we all become sheep.

[Dr The Singh]

2 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Boris and Farage sell the illusion of authenticity, rather than the real thing. That's a big part of the problem tbh - well, on scientific policy where the facts have to speak for themselves no matter who is selling them, anyway. 

 

 

Having a masters in chemistry, how do we construct this scientific policy, smac?

[leicsmac]

3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Career politicians are a problem, no matter the stripe. I suppose next is our adoption of career scientists or career virologists as seem to be in vogue in The Land of the Free.

And it is obvious where that ends. 

 

The rules the Earth don't give a shit for you ignore them, other than to punish you for it. Severely. 

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

Having a masters in chemistry, how do we construct this scientific policy, smac?

At this point it will take a miracle - a science communicator both academically skilled and also able to sell an idea and policy to the public the same way Johnson or Farage can. And even then they'd have to cope with the vested interests wanting to discredit them because they are happy to see the future burn because they're doing well in the present. 

Edited 6 September 2025 by leicsmac

[PAULCFC]

Been impressed with Ben Habibs Advance uk party from what i've seen of him.

[urban.spaceman]

7 minutes ago, PAULCFC said:

Been impressed with Ben Habibs Advance uk party from what i've seen of him.

Why a new party and why now?

Our constitution has been steadily eroded by supranational institutions, creeping international law, and unaccountable domestic quangos. Our elected representatives act against the people.

Borders have been dismantled. Mass migration is eroding our culture and destroying our economy.

Free speech is being systematically shut down to silence the majority. Our children are indoctrinated in schools. Justice no longer means justice. Dangerous criminals walk free while law-abiding citizens are punished for what they say.

Nothing works. 

The NHS is broken. Our armed forces are a shadow of what they once were. The police are compromised. The courts are politicised. Our schools and universities have become hotbeds of radical ideology and are no longer seats of learning.

The economy has stagnated. National debt and taxation are at post-war highs. More are on state benefits than ever before.

Dependency has replaced aspiration. Wealth redistribution has replaced wealth creation. We are descending into decay, not building a future.

Our very existence as a free and sovereign people hangs in the balance.

The political establishment has failed. The old and new parties morph into one.  They all sing from the same hymn sheet, offering nothing but decline.

 

Literally everything he's whinging about was caused by the policies and decisions of the party he was a member of, voted for and donated to. 

[leicsmac]

Any political figure that talks about the future of their own patch or "own people" without including wider context of how it will fit in with global responses to global problems show themselves to lack the necessary knowledge and motivation - and therefore competence - to guarantee any kind of future but a bad one, for everyone including themselves. 

[Free Falling Foxes]

More arrests at a Palestine Action protest.

Not wishing to be flippant here, but if someone held a placard with 'I Support Action for Palestine', would that be OK?

 

A bit like the difference between The People's Front for Judea and the Judean Peoples Front.

[Spudulike]

7 minutes ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

More arrests at a Palestine Action protest.

Not wishing to be flippant here, but if someone held a placard with 'I Support Action for Palestine', would that be OK?

 

A bit like the difference between The People's Front for Judea and the Judean Peoples Front.

Madness. They want to be arrested to make a point. The average age of those previously arrested is 54. They look much older looking at those pictures. Non-workers, I'd guess, that aren't worried about getting a criminal conviction.

 

Give them all a £1k fine. Easy money alongside parking tickets. Kerrching.