General News Thread

[Samilktray]

I think I’d prefer to be obliviously bombed than have to hear that alarm noise again 

[Guest Bilo]

4 minutes ago, JonnyBoy said:

Hang on a second, where have I said I am voting reform 🤣🤣

 

leftie plebs is fitting, though. 

Who told you to think that? 

[Free Falling Foxes]

25 minutes ago, Bilo said:

The thing with some of the Boomer Generation is that 'other people' will be their kids and grandkids, and they still don't care so long as they don't have the inconvenience of having to charge their Motability BYD at Tesco for an hour or paying an extra £10 a month on their gas bill. Incredibly selfish and entitled generation. 

I think it's a case of some of all generations and walks of life.

 

Fwiw, my concerns for the climate and the general future of this planet, is based wholly on worrying for the future of my grandchildren and their children. Interestingly, speaking to fellow 'boomers', it is a concern they all seem to share. There has been the odd exception but, as I said, there is in each generation.

 

I don't think there is a greater percentage in older folk either, moreover, its a demographic that can have swipes taken at it with impunity, as opposed to other groups of society who scream this ism or that ism if accused of something or offended.

 

Anyway, must dash, I've got to call my phone network. My phone has just let out an awful screaming noise.

 

Edited 7 September 2025 by Free Falling Foxes

[urban.spaceman]

6 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Anyone get the alarm?

IT'S TYRANNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[CosbehFox]

14 minutes ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

I think it's a case of some of all generations and walks of life.

 

Fwiw, my concerns for the climate and the general future of this planet, is based wholly on worrying for the future of my grandchildren and their children. Interestingly, speaking to fellow 'boomers', it is a concern they all seem to share. There has been the odd exception but, as I said, there is in each generation.

 

I don't think there is a greater percentage in older folk either, moreover, its a demographic that can have swipes taken at it with impunity, as opposed to other groups of society who scream this ism or that ism if accused of something or offended.

 

Anyway, must dash, I've got to call my phone network. My phone has just let out an awful screaming noise.

 

It’s a swipe which had the cold evidence of the Brexit vote demographical splits to give it truth. 

[Greg2607]

1 hour ago, Dr The Singh said:

Yeah, I lived it aswell.  He has alot to answer, but that doesn't make Labour any better, infact im more poorer under Labour then under Boris.

Why's that then??

[leicsmac]

15 minutes ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

I think it's a case of some of all generations and walks of life.

 

Fwiw, my concerns for the climate and the general future of this planet, is based wholly on worrying for the future of my grandchildren and their children. Interestingly, speaking to fellow 'boomers', it is a concern they all seem to share. There has been the odd exception but, as I said, there is in each generation.

 

I don't think there is a greater percentage in older folk either, moreover, its a demographic that can have swipes taken at it with impunity, as opposed to other groups of society who scream this ism or that ism if accused of something or offended.

 

Anyway, must dash, I've got to call my phone network. My phone has just let out an awful screaming noise.

 

 

Just now, CosbehFox said:

It’s a swipe which had the cold evidence of the Brexit vote demographical splits to give it truth. 

I will say at this point that age voting demographics for Reform, while having some bias towards older folks, still have at least a good third under the age of 50.

 

The paradigm has shifted a bit since Brexit; the idea of self interested change for the sole sake of that self interest is no longer unique in policy choices to one age. 

 

The more concerning splits are those along gender and race lines which are becoming larger. 

[Guest Bilo]

20 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

That is an extreme probability.

 

However, I'm keeping an open mind for sanity's sake.

You'll also find that there's virtually nothing original about Reform and that it's essentially repackaged MAGA, right down to DOGE and that cringeworthy 'drill, baby, drill' slogan you see their supporters spouting. Swapping the Build The Wall slogan for Stop The Boats fools nobody with an IQ that doesn't start with a decimal point. 

 

Labour would do a lot worse than to point this out constantly, ruthlessly and at every single turn. Play on how despised Trump is here at every opportunity, and make it clear that Farage is just Trump with a bit more self-control and longer sentences.

[CosbehFox]

1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

 

I will say at this point that age voting demographics for Reform, while having some bias towards older folks, still have at least a good third under the age of 50.

 

The paradigm has shifted a bit since Brexit; the idea of self interested change for the sole sake of that self interest is no longer unique in policy choices to one age. 

 

The more concerning splits are those along gender and race lines which are becoming larger. 

There’s a definite rise in young people turning right politically. Other shifts are that constituents to the outskirts of cities particularly with academic basis will go Lib Dem or Green. Similar Asian communities support will soar towards Tories over the next few elections. 
 

The ironic piece to the first shift is that these young people who have suffered at the hands of the austerity cuts on public services. In the process they have got angry. It’s often that initial part of your life which forms politicals. My childhood was during New Labour and opportunities opened sigifnicantly for kids of my upbringing during that period. I often have to smile inwardly when the corporate folk I deal with getting very angry about Labour yet the whole growth in affluence for most millennials owes a lot to Blair’s early policies 

[Foxdiamond]

45 minutes ago, Bilo said:

It's simply undeniable that the Boomer generation has voted, and continues to vote, in short-term self-interest regardless of individual exceptions such as looking after grandkids.

I don't think you can condemn a whole generation as if they are all the same and often votes have been split across the various parties. Trouble is the first past post system 

[Trav Le Bleu]

53 minutes ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

I think it's a case of some of all generations and walks of life.

 

Fwiw, my concerns for the climate and the general future of this planet, is based wholly on worrying for the future of my grandchildren and their children. Interestingly, speaking to fellow 'boomers', it is a concern they all seem to share. There has been the odd exception but, as I said, there is in each generation.

 

I don't think there is a greater percentage in older folk either, moreover, its a demographic that can have swipes taken at it with impunity, as opposed to other groups of society who scream this ism or that ism if accused of something or offended.

 

Anyway, must dash, I've got to call my phone network. My phone has just let out an awful screaming noise.

 

NIMBYism isn't just about perceived land infringement.

[Guest Bilo]

25 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

There’s a definite rise in young people turning right politically. Other shifts are that constituents to the outskirts of cities particularly with academic basis will go Lib Dem or Green. Similar Asian communities support will soar towards Tories over the next few elections. 
 

The ironic piece to the first shift is that these young people who have suffered at the hands of the austerity cuts on public services. In the process they have got angry. It’s often that initial part of your life which forms politicals. My childhood was during New Labour and opportunities opened sigifnicantly for kids of my upbringing during that period. I often have to smile inwardly when the corporate folk I deal with getting very angry about Labour yet the whole growth in affluence for most millennials owes a lot to Blair’s early policies 

There wasn't a lot of evidence for this in last year's election. 

 

Young women in particular seem to absolutely despise Reform UK. I suspect Farage and Tice touting Andrew Tate and going to bat for a colleague who'd done time for using his girlfriend as a football didn't help.

 

I personally see this idea that the young are turning to the right as being quite overblown by the press and social media algorithms. There may be a rise in young men with few qualifications turning to Reform out of frustration, but those without qualifications are more likely to gravitate towards Reform regardless of age. 

 

 

[CornwallFox]

5 hours ago, leicsmac said:

I'm still a little baffled as to why they have nailed their colours to that particular mast so intently. 

 

Can't quite get my head around the idea of so many people not giving a shite about their own future (and legacy, which I know often is the only thing that means much to sociopaths), to say nothing of everyone else's. 

 big oil is funding all of this

[urban.spaceman]

3 hours ago, JonnyBoy said:

Imagine the scenes on here when reform win the next election 

Enjoy
 

 

[Dr The Singh]

1 hour ago, Greg2607 said:

Why's that then??

I will ask.my accountant to send yoy the details.  

 

The 4% NI tax raise, cut my recruitment in UK,.so I used that find on the USA is a good example.

 

The companies I work for went from investing over 12 million to put that on stop.

 

 

 

[Zear0]

1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

Yip. Weird alarm noise. With flashing lights and subliminal messages. 

 

Just off to call a GE and vote Reform

My COVID implant buzzed too. 

[Dr The Singh]

1 hour ago, Greg2607 said:

Why's that then??

Because inflation isnt controlled and interest rates are still shit.

 

So are you richer, prove it

[whoareyaaa]

That Ukrainian girl that got killed on the bus in a America is shocking, not much about it on the news though.

[Wymsey]

1 minute ago, whoareyaaa said:

That Ukrainian girl that got killed on the bus in a America is shocking, not much about it on the news though.

It seems like the recent Putin-Trump meeting was a bit of a waste of time, given the Russian attack on a key Ukrainian government building today.

[whoareyaaa]

1 minute ago, Wymsey said:

It seems like the recent Putin-Trump meeting was a bit of a waste of time, given the Russian attack on a key Ukrainian government building today.

Completely unrelated but yea it was never going to change anything 

[MaidstoneFox]

1 hour ago, Bilo said:

There wasn't a lot of evidence for this in last year's election. 

 

Young women in particular seem to absolutely despise Reform UK. I suspect Farage and Tice touting Andrew Tate and going to bat for a colleague who'd done time for using his girlfriend as a football didn't help.

 

I personally see this idea that the young are turning to the right as being quite overblown by the press and social media algorithms. There may be a rise in young men with few qualifications turning to Reform out of frustration, but those without qualifications are more likely to gravitate towards Reform regardless of age. 

 

 

Certainly my experience from teaching 16-18 year olds. Young women can't abide Tate and any guys who try to espouse his views get considerable pushback and it's made clear that they would definitely not be 'boyfriend material'. 

 

[Guest Bilo]

47 minutes ago, MaidstoneFox said:

Certainly my experience from teaching 16-18 year olds. Young women can't abide Tate and any guys who try to espouse his views get considerable pushback and it's made clear that they would definitely not be 'boyfriend material'. 

 

I think it's more that those who do support right-wing politics tend to be very vocal about it because they see it as edgy and a bit subversive. For every one lad who's spouting Stop The Boats and wanting to stand as the Reform UK candidate in the school election, there's probably 10 of his classmates who think he's a bit of a knob.

[Sly]

2 hours ago, Bilo said:

There wasn't a lot of evidence for this in last year's election. 

 

Young women in particular seem to absolutely despise Reform UK. I suspect Farage and Tice touting Andrew Tate and going to bat for a colleague who'd done time for using his girlfriend as a football didn't help.

 

I personally see this idea that the young are turning to the right as being quite overblown by the press and social media algorithms. There may be a rise in young men with few qualifications turning to Reform out of frustration, but those without qualifications are more likely to gravitate towards Reform regardless of age. 

 

 

The last election was weird though. I know so many Conservatives that voted labour out of protest. The existing government has basically collapsed. 
 

I think the conservatives will need to reshuffle again before an election if they want to re-establish themselves, however they need to come back from the right a little to potentially differentiate them from reform, which I think has started to happen. 
 

I think if the Lib Dem’s would have had a “Nick Clegg” type at the last election, they would have pushed Labour harder. 

[leicsmac]

3 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

 big oil is funding all of this

That's a theory, but to what end? 

 

It still ends as well for them as everyone else, eg. badly.

[JonnyBoy]

1 hour ago, Sly said:

The last election was weird though. I know so many Conservatives that voted labour out of protest. The existing government has basically collapsed. 
 

I think the conservatives will need to reshuffle again before an election if they want to re-establish themselves, however they need to come back from the right a little to potentially differentiate them from reform, which I think has started to happen. 
 

I think if the Lib Dem’s would have had a “Nick Clegg” type at the last election, they would have pushed Labour harder. 

This is interesting - I must have spoken to 3-4 people in the last month who have done this and regretted their decision. Sometimes it is better the devil you know eh