Leicester City Average Attendance

[Muzzy_no7]

1 hour ago, Chelmofox said:

Why waste the Council and the Police time for this? 

It wouldn’t be a waste of council or police time as it’s in the public interest. 
 

In terms of ethical reasons I think honesty is important so the club need to be held to account instead of constantly papering over cracks. 

[Finnegan]

30 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

It wouldn’t be a waste of council or police time as it’s in the public interest. 
 

In terms of ethical reasons I think honesty is important so the club need to be held to account instead of constantly papering over cracks. 

 

Speaking as a local government officer that has to respond to a LOT of FOIAs, I think we have a different definition of public interest

 

Seriously, though, I'd have thought the only organisation with an official head count through the turnstiles would be the club. 

 

As you've seen, the council can only tell you the maximum capacity the stadium is permitted to hold and the police will only have estimates, I'd have thought. 

 

Even the club will only know if I'm right in assuming the "new" machines register an entry somewhere that's logged in a database every time a ticket is scanned. Wind back a few years to analogue tickets and blokes in the turnstiles and I don't actually know if they were tallying on entry. I can't remember, did they rip stubs? Suppose you could count those. 

 

You'll have some variance for people in boxes, not sure they count meticulously who goes in to corporate but that's going to be a small impact on the overall figure. 

 

Long and short of it, you'd need to ask the club and they obviously aren't obliged to tell you. 

 

Edit: as an aside, it's worth noting that every other club will report attendance the same way, as in tickets sold. For whatever it's worth, it won't be unique to us. 

 

Edited 5 January by Finnegan

[Muzzy_no7]

16 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Speaking as a local government officer that has to respond to a LOT of FOIAs, I think we have a different definition of public interest

 

Seriously, though, I'd have thought the only organisation with an official head count through the turnstiles would be the club. 

 

As you've seen, the council can only tell you the maximum capacity the stadium is permitted to hold and the police will only have estimates, I'd have thought. 

 

Even the club will only know if I'm right in assuming the "new" machines register an entry somewhere that's logged in a database every time a ticket is scanned. Wind back a few years to analogue tickets and blokes in the turnstiles and I don't actually know if they were tallying on entry. I can't remember, did they rip stubs? Suppose you could count those. 

 

You'll have some variance for people in boxes, not sure they count meticulously who goes in to corporate but that's going to be a small impact on the overall figure. 

 

Long and short of it, you'd need to ask the club and they obviously aren't obliged to tell you. 

 

Edit: as an aside, it's worth noting that every other club will report attendance the same way, as in tickets sold. For whatever it's worth, it won't be unique to us. 

 

The club will know yes, but they would have to tell the local safety advisory group and Police on matchday. 
 

I don’t think you need experience in a certain job or be working somewhere to think it’s in the public’s interest as well as Leicester supporter’s interest to know/enquire about this.

 

If we are going down that route: Having worked for local government, council and the CPS though, I’d argue it’s in the public interest with any of those particular hats on. 
 

Transparency, Safety , resources, ethics…the list goes on😂. 

[Finnegan]

10 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

The club will know yes, but they would have to tell the local safety advisory group and Police on matchday. 
 

I don’t think you need experience in a certain job or be working somewhere to think it’s in the public’s interest as well as Leicester supporter’s interest to know/enquire about this.

 

If we are going down that route: Having worked for local government, council and the CPS though, I’d argue it’s in the public interest with any of those particular hats on. 
 

Transparency, Safety , resources, ethics…the list goes on😂. 

 

Sorry, I wasn't trying to pull a "I know more than you", I was being glib. I'm literally currently responding to a pointless FOIA that's in front of me and I think they can all **** off

 

Edit: make that two 🤦

 

Edited 5 January by Finnegan

[Muzzy_no7]

8 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Sorry, I wasn't trying to pull a "I know more than you", I was being glib. I'm literally currently responding to a pointless FOIA that's in front of me and I think they can all **** off

 

Edit: make that two 🤦

 

Haha fair play. 
 

I think bums on seats tonight will be around 21,500

[filthyfox]

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

Sorry, I wasn't trying to pull a "I know more than you", I was being glib. I'm literally currently responding to a pointless FOIA that's in front of me and I think they can all **** off

 

Edit: make that two 🤦

 

Good man...  FOIs in general are a complete waste of time.

I had one today....  "how much time do Council Employees in your department spend on the toilet".

 

Currently i am on a stake out so that i can give an answer.

 

Edited 5 January by filthyfox

[Sting]

Sky sports are reporting Leicester v WBA  ATTENDANCE  27,130 

looked about 16,000 (At the most ) on tv.
 

[Muzzy_no7]

If indeed it’s only down to the club counting non-attending season ticket holders then are we saying between 9-12,000 season ticket holders didn’t go? That would be roughly 50% of all ST holders. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

4 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

If indeed it’s only down to the club counting non-attending season ticket holders then are we saying between 9-12,000 season ticket holders didn’t go? That would be roughly 50% of all ST holders. 

Yeah that's an interesting point, you'd suspect that the very small numbers that bought a match by match ticket for this wouldn't then boycott. So basically every non-atendee would be a season ticket holder. 

[demon_dog]

Never 27k there.

The ground was half empty, a steward told me that there were about 16k. Which in my estimate looking around seems about right 

[Gamble92]

23 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

Why waste the Council and the Police time for this? 

Anyone who's ever done that job will know Leicester City attendances will be one of the most worthwhile things they ever have to search