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Posted
44 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Eh. I do find that he often says a bunchy of wishy washy nothing and speaks in general terms but I don't think this is entirely on him. There's a limit to what he can ever know or say but he's constantly asked for comment and interviews and has built a profitable side business on social media. He needs more content than he can even realistically have. 

 

But from what I have read or watched him say, in my experience he tends to be right about us fairly often. 

 

I've certainly learned to trust his takes more than the happy clapping City fans in denial that quickly jump to claim he knows nothing every time he claims our finances are a ****ing mess. 

 

You could get away with that argument five or six years ago before the evidence presented itself but people still denying it now are unhinged. 

 

And that's exactly my problem. He operates constant doomsday scenarios to drive engagement, & that makes his analysis consistently wrong. I believe the kids call it 'Clickbait' or 'Ragebait'. It's not honest analysis, but it always works because disgruntled & frightened supporters will jump on it. It's pure engagement farming with conformation bias as its driver.

 

It's fundamentally dishonest. I hate them for it. Their (Maguire & Borson) public are football fans who are often scared &/or angry, & don't deserve to be mislead. What they do is pure old school tabloid tactics adapted into sound bytes for social media.

 

Maguire (in particular) was nearly always wrong with his predictions on our PSR case at virtually every juncture. And yet people still listen to him. Amazing.

 

The grift is real...

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Posted
1 hour ago, Fox-LMA said:

Really wish people would stop taking Kieran Maguire & Stefan Borson seriously.

 

They know little, have few contacts & are clearly on the make.

 

They always appear to be wrong...

I don't really know much about Borsan, but Maguire's whole thing isn't really about contacts. It's that's he able to analyse published accounts and financial statements and identify where there might be challenges, issues, problems etc. He might not get every single detail right but he was one of the first to report that we were in financial bother going back 3 years or so now. 

Posted
15 minutes ago, Fox-LMA said:

And that's exactly my problem. He operates constant doomsday scenarios to drive engagement, & that makes his analysis consistently wrong. I believe the kids call it 'Clickbait' or 'Ragebait'. It's not honest analysis, but it always works because disgruntled & frightened supporters will jump on it. It's pure engagement farming with conformation bias as its driver.

 

It's fundamentally dishonest. I hate them for it. Their (Maguire & Borson) public are football fans who are often scared &/or angry, & don't deserve to be mislead. What they do is pure old school tabloid tactics adapted into sound bytes for social media.

 

Maguire (in particular) was nearly always wrong with his predictions on our PSR case at virtually every juncture. And yet people still listen to him. Amazing.

 

The grift is real...

 

I don't think Maguire was fundamentally wrong about what would happen to us with the PSR case. He just said how much we'd breached by and what the punishment had been in similar cases. 

 

That was a reasonable foundation for any prediction. 

 

Nobody successfully predicted that we were going to push back the charges the first two times because of loopholes in badly written legislation. We were the first to do it. 

 

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Posted
Just now, Finnegan said:

 

I don't think Maguire was fundamentally wrong about what would happen to us with the PSR case. He just said how much we'd breached by and what the punishment had been in similar cases. 

 

That was a reasonable foundation for any prediction. 

 

Nobody successfully predicted that we were going to push back the charges the first two times because of loopholes in badly written legislation. We were the first to do it. 

 

No, he constantly got it wrong.

 

He was as shocked as all of us when De Marco found that loophole. Before then he predicted an up to 15pt deduction.

 

Then after that, he predicted that the EFL would be 'vengeful' & hand us a 'record' points deduction. He then said that were would be charged twice with two sets of deductions. Which of course didn't happen. With some real digging I could go on.

 

This is his thing. Operating extreme case scenarios that turn out to be inaccurate. And this is just us. Lord only knows what he's been saying about other clubs.

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Posted
58 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Ah, I don’t know if there definitely a buyer interested, all I’ve been told is, as per the FT article but the “interested party” are rumoured to be from Abu Dhabi, so from that I’ve made an educated stab at who it might be. 


If it is the Al Nahyan family we are definitely cooking money wise.
 

Posted
49 minutes ago, Bablemikey said:

I'd be genuinely concerned by some of the names being mentioned. I completely understand that it takes people with that level of wealth to transform a football club financially, but I also think there has to be a line somewhere. For me, some of the ethical issues involved are difficult, if not impossible, to overlook, regardless of the potential benefits on the pitch. I'm sure I'm in the minority on this, and everyone has their own line in the sand, but that's where I stand.

There are governing bodies and now an Independent Regulator in place to analyse and scrutinise everything around a potential takeover. They have the power to adjudicate. 

 

Fans should not be expected to be the moral and social conscience of football when they have no say whatsoever in this matter.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Fox-LMA said:

No, he constantly got it wrong.

 

He was as shocked as all of us when De Marco found that loophole. Before then he predicted an up to 15pt deduction.

 

Then after that, he predicted that the EFL would be 'vengeful' & hand us a 'record' points deduction. He then said that were would be charged twice with two sets of deductions. Which of course didn't happen. With some real digging I could go on.

 

This is his thing. Operating extreme case scenarios that turn out to be inaccurate. And this is just us. Lord only knows what he's been saying about other clubs.

It wasn't a loophole, just putting it out there. 

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Posted
18 hours ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Already feeling in advance for KPFC types. Imagine you’ve just been brainwashed by King Power for a decade and then you get sportswashed by dodgy Middle Eastern owner. They’ll not know which way is up (that’s if they do already).

The KPFC fans I know wouldn't understand what sports washing is; if pushed, they'd say it's what the kit man does.

Posted
1 hour ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Worryingly this is the same that was said about Chansiri at Wednesday, his valuation

of the club was way in excess of what it was worth and as a consequence frightened off interested parties ……and we all know how that panned out. 

I fully expect the same to happen here

Posted
1 hour ago, Tommy G said:

So you think he's pretending we are for sale, to get the fans off his back...when ultimately if we aren't sold in the near future we could potentially go into Admin and he wouldnt receive a penny? That's an expensive way to go about it. He's thick, but not that thick.

I used to think that, but now I'm not so sure

Posted
1 hour ago, Bablemikey said:

I'd be genuinely concerned by some of the names being mentioned. I completely understand that it takes people with that level of wealth to transform a football club financially, but I also think there has to be a line somewhere. For me, some of the ethical issues involved are difficult, if not impossible, to overlook, regardless of the potential benefits on the pitch. I'm sure I'm in the minority on this, and everyone has their own line in the sand, but that's where I stand.

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