Head Honcho Posted 15 February 2006 Author Posted 15 February 2006 Happens all the time here m8, Rowdy twats who cant handle there drink, Booze is more a danger to people than passive smoking is. You can't legislate for rowdy twats you knob .....and I think you'll find it's other customers that are more likely to be glassed not bar staff!
Cat Burger Posted 15 February 2006 Posted 15 February 2006 There's more quiet pubs around than rough ones! More smokers than thugs put it that way!
Leicfox Posted 15 February 2006 Posted 15 February 2006 You can't legislate for rowdy twats you knob .....and I think you'll find it's other customers that are more likely to be glassed not bar staff! WHO THE fock YOU CALLING A KNOB ?? And also theres been a number of bar staff glassed here in Blackpool. Was only about a year back when it was happening on a regular basis.
Teeno Posted 15 February 2006 Posted 15 February 2006 You've contradicted yourself a bit there matey!! Passive smoking does affect non-smokers, even on a casual basis. It aggrevates my asthma; do you not find my coughing annoying after I've been in the pub for a bit, because I bloody well do! In recent years, I've been getting hayfever symptoms just from sitting in the pub! Why should I have no social life so that people can enjoy a ciggy with their pint? And what about those people who work behind the bar? There is an ever-growing number of bar staff who have developed heart disease or smoking-related cancers despite never having smoked in their lives. Shouldn't their health, and ultimately their lives, be protected? I think your massively over exaggerating Lisa. I haven't contradicted myself at all, what I was saying was that passive smoking can kill (Eg living with a smoker whos smokes in a room, but by going in a pub full of smoke once a week for a couple of hurse isn't. A ban on smoking will not effect non smokers in anyway, but a ban for smokers is awful. I agree that there should be bans in places that surve food and that most pub shold have smoking and non smoking areas, s there a choice, but a total ban just alienates us and will ruin the enjoyment of relaxing down the pub for many many people.
Head Honcho Posted 15 February 2006 Author Posted 15 February 2006 I think your massively over exaggerating Lisa. I haven't contradicted myself at all, what I was saying was that passive smoking can kill (Eg living with a smoker whos smokes in a room, but by going in a pub full of smoke once a week for a couple of hurse isn't. A ban on smoking will not effect non smokers in anyway, but a ban for smokers is awful. I agree that there should be bans in places that surve food and that most pub shold have smoking and non smoking areas, s there a choice, but a total ban just alienates us and will ruin the enjoyment of relaxing down the pub for many many people. They've managed alright in the rest of Europe so why not here. I remember when seatbelts were made compulsory everyone was saying "I'm not wearing one" and apart from the odd idiot these days we're all wearing them-you'll get used to it!
Alexikokopops Posted 15 February 2006 Posted 15 February 2006 I smoke ah ... if this bothers anyone, I recommend you looking around the world in which we live and shutting your fuċking mouth. Take that home with ya. I got some news to tell you tonight. Very exciting news. For non-smokers? Oh, I can't wait to tell y'all this cos I know you don't know this ... and I feel it's my duty to pass on information at all times so that that way we can all evolve quicker. Non-smokers, you ready? This, by the way, is a fact too. Non-smokers, ready? Drum roll. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Non-smokers die every die. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! O-ho, sleep tight. Oh, the truth which shall set you free. I know that you non-smokers entertain some type of eternal fantasy because you don't smoke cigarettes. Well let me be the first to (Makes exploding noise) pop that fuċking bubble and send you on your way with some little truth: you're gonna fuċking die. OK? Ok. Love ya! Shut the fock up. And you know what doctors say: "Shit, if only you'd smoked. We'd have the technology to help ya." It's you people dying from nothing that are screwed. I got all sorts of neat gadgets waiting for me. Iron lung, oxygen tent, it's like Christmas.
Head Honcho Posted 15 February 2006 Author Posted 15 February 2006 ' date='Feb 15 2006, 09:59 PM' post='275185']I smoke ah ... if this bothers anyone, I recommend you looking around the world in which we live and shutting your fuċking mouth. Take that home with ya. I got some news to tell you tonight. Very exciting news. For non-smokers? Oh, I can't wait to tell y'all this cos I know you don't know this ... and I feel it's my duty to pass on information at all times so that that way we can all evolve quicker. Non-smokers, you ready? This, by the way, is a fact too. Non-smokers, ready? Drum roll. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Non-smokers die every die. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! O-ho, sleep tight. Oh, the truth which shall set you free. I know that you non-smokers entertain some type of eternal fantasy because you don't smoke cigarettes. Well let me be the first to (Makes exploding noise) pop that fuċking bubble and send you on your way with some little truth: you're gonna fuċking die. OK? Ok. Love ya! Shut the fock up. And you know what doctors say: "Shit, if only you'd smoked. We'd have the technology to help ya." It's you people dying from nothing that are screwed. I got all sorts of neat gadgets waiting for me. Iron lung, oxygen tent, it's like Christmas. Could that be Denis Leary's No cure for Cancer? The finest comedy sketch ever
Tomassi Posted 15 February 2006 Posted 15 February 2006 I think your massively over exaggerating Lisa. I haven't contradicted myself at all, what I was saying was that passive smoking can kill (Eg living with a smoker whos smokes in a room, but by going in a pub full of smoke once a week for a couple of hurse isn't. A ban on smoking will not effect non smokers in anyway, but a ban for smokers is awful. I agree that there should be bans in places that surve food and that most pub shold have smoking and non smoking areas, s there a choice, but a total ban just alienates us and will ruin the enjoyment of relaxing down the pub for many many people. The main thing is Teeno, If you wana smoke, do it at your own leisure, not at the expense of others. Thats why the whole world is doing it!! Your life expectancy will be longer for it, and so will your mates ! Its come to a stage where i thought people who smoke in front of others were being greedy, and if they want to harm themselves they shouldnt bring others into it. People are saying well why aren't they banning alcohol? Does alcohol travel through the air into your breathing system? If you dont want it are you forced? I think pubs will actually benefit more from this move, and so will society. One last point. A relative recently went into hospital with a serious chest infection. She had never smoked a fag in her life. She was asked by four different doctors/consultants if she was a smoker. All the patients around her were 25/30 years younger (despite being a 47 yr old), yet suffering similar symptons due to the effects of smoking. When will smokers realise the effect they are having on themselves and others?
Alexikokopops Posted 15 February 2006 Posted 15 February 2006 Could that be Denis Leary's No cure for Cancer? The finest comedy sketch ever Bill Hicks at the Funny Bone, Pittsburgh, 20th June 1991
The People's Hero Posted 15 February 2006 Posted 15 February 2006 Smokers should keep on doing it, it's keeping my tax bill down. Smoke more people, come on.
Chairman of the Bored Posted 15 February 2006 Posted 15 February 2006 ' date='Feb 15 2006, 10:11 PM' post='275198']Bill Hicks at the Funny Bone, Pittsburgh, 20th June 1991 Bill Hicks was God. THE greatest ever stand up comedian. PERIOD. Anyhows, never mind nicotine, there was someone in the A&L last night smoking dope. Couldn't work out who, but next time buddy, pass it around.....
Matt Posted 15 February 2006 Posted 15 February 2006 Not really bothered, I don't smoke and never have, but it really doesn't bother me if people smoke around me or not, Its probably something to do with in the job I do the majority of people smoke so I am always round it, even when I started my career I didn't mind it though. Besides i'm likly to get cancer through MDF Dust at work so the chances of getting cancer through passive smoking doesn't make those chances any higher or lower. MDF Dust = Possible lung cancer/Throat cancer/Resprioratory problems Passive Smoking = Pretty much the same.
Guest Posted 15 February 2006 Posted 15 February 2006 I think your massively over exaggerating Lisa. I haven't contradicted myself at all, what I was saying was that passive smoking can kill (Eg living with a smoker whos smokes in a room, but by going in a pub full of smoke once a week for a couple of hurse isn't. A ban on smoking will not effect non smokers in anyway, but a ban for smokers is awful. I agree that there should be bans in places that surve food and that most pub shold have smoking and non smoking areas, s there a choice, but a total ban just alienates us and will ruin the enjoyment of relaxing down the pub for many many people. I said "a bit", as you're saying passive smoking harms noone, then you say it can kill you.Going into a pub for a couple of hours can kill. I've had asthma attacks before now. I'm lucky I am relatively healthy, but who's to say I won't be lucky next time? Why is a smoking ban so awful anyway? Have you ever been anywhere where there's a full smoking ban? I have (Boston, Mass), and the pubs were heaving, and noone seemed to mind having to go outside to smoke. In fact, the people over there seemed to have more respect for non-smokers, as we didn't see anyone trying to sneak a crafty one in the loos, which is what happens in the Highcross.
Katy Posted 15 February 2006 Posted 15 February 2006 Let Cobbo tell you a few horror stories about smoking Its the scum of the earth
Cat Burger Posted 16 February 2006 Posted 16 February 2006 I'd rather die without the horrendous cough thank you very much.
Head Honcho Posted 16 February 2006 Author Posted 16 February 2006 ' date='Feb 15 2006, 10:11 PM' post='275198']Bill Hicks at the Funny Bone, Pittsburgh, 20th June 1991 Close! Denis Leary did a similar sketch in No Cure for Cancer maybe he nicked it of The Master
Ric Flair Posted 17 February 2006 Posted 17 February 2006 I don't smoke and I don't overly enjoy the devastating smell on my clothes after a night out but I think this might make the atmosphere of pubs, bars and clubs really bad. If people cannot smoke inside a bar they will all just go outside no doubt and non-smokers will inevitably join them as they won't want to stay on their own, this will probably only happen regulary in the summer months as you'd be a coooont to want to stand outside for long periods but I feel this might ruin my binge drinking experience.
MONreborn Posted 17 February 2006 Posted 17 February 2006 Good news in my opinion even though i do have the odd fag, it's not fare on the people who do not smoke.
Head Honcho Posted 17 February 2006 Author Posted 17 February 2006 I don't smoke and I don't overly enjoy the devastating smell on my clothes after a night out but I think this might make the atmosphere of pubs, bars and clubs really bad. If people cannot smoke inside a bar they will all just go outside no doubt and non-smokers will inevitably join them as they won't want to stay on their own, this will probably only happen regulary in the summer months as you'd be a coooont to want to stand outside for long periods but I feel this might ruin my binge drinking experience. Go to any Dublin pub and you'll find that this is not the case, in fact some pubs have found some very novel ways of allowing customers to have a smoke without breaking the law or upsetting non-smokers.
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