Jay Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 Is this the same L1 I saw half leaving for their pie/pint/fag/loo 5 minutes before the HT whistle, and turning up 5 minutes after the restart!! Now that's top support!!! that's the ones!!! :laugh:
Master Fox Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 Is this the same L1 I saw half leaving for their pie/pint/fag/loo 5 minutes before the HT whistle, and turning up 5 minutes after the restart!! Now that's top support!!! Well at least they sing.
spirefox Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 The club?? Talk about pasing the buck! What do realistically expect the club to do about the atmosphere? The only thing they can do is win more games!! My point is that the club are obviously aware of the atmosphere problem but are actually one of the primary reasons for it.Why else do they play the music they do just before the teams come out but to try and"build" an atmosphere.They also send good old Birch out to whip up the fans before every game. Two things they could do i.e.introduce unreserved seating and let fans bring drums ,horns etc in, they won't allow.
Ajax Treesdown Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 put simply Peter Taylor left Leicester today with little more then a barely audioble boo ringing in his ears. Pathetic. sums up the state of our home suppourt. Ha Ha! Loser.
Swedging Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 Just because I like to take the piss when the opposition are losing doesn't mean I want a fight. If there is no rivalry between sets of players or fans then what are we all there for? And if what you're shouting suggests that you're up for a fight? Does that mean that you'll run when they chips are down, then? And I really think that rivalry between set of players and rivalry between sets of fans are completely different. I guess most people at the match these days want to see rivalry between players.
prayforsnow Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 It used to be banter, now it's a bunch of kids who think that singing "small town in Aresenal" at the Spurs fans is the future. At Filbert Street, there was the usual orchestrated parade of chants, but there was enough spontaneity about as well. "Who let the frogs out" (considered one of the best chants of all time) was not pre-planned on the 'net, or in the pub. Those days have long gone, or so it would seem. The problem with atmosphere at the WS is down to on-pitch performance inducing apathy amongst he supporters, not because we are not next to the away fans, or that we all apparently sat in the Carling Stand, which you know is not true. 'Small town in (insert name here) was sung at filbert street just as much. I agree with you there is not enough spontaneity/orginality about the songs but at least its better than nothing. The original songs don't happen in the new kop either mainly because the spontaneous/orginal songs are sung at the away fans when something 'different' or entertaining happens. The new kop is too far away to see these piss taking incidents and so all we're left with from the kop is rythmic clapping. I could not disagree more however about on-pitch performance. At Filbert st the atomosphere used to build well before the game and there would be prolonged chanting to get behind the team whenever they were playing badly. If atomosphere is down to on the pitch performance how can you explain saturdays atmosphere when we have just come off the back of our best run this season (-ipswich)!!! Also at what point did I say that everyone in the Kop was ex-carling standers? I said the kop is dotted with these people. These are the people who frown at you if you as so much as shout!! It may not be what the majority want and in some eyes a 'sad state of affairs' but move the kop and the atmosphere improves FACT
prayforsnow Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 And if what you're shouting suggests that you're up for a fight? Does that mean that you'll run when they chips are down, then? And I really think that rivalry between set of players and rivalry between sets of fans are completely different. I guess most people at the match these days want to see rivalry between players. Depends on what the chant is as to whether I deem I should join in or not. Obviously if its racist I aint joining in but singing cheerio to someone when they are leaving early as they a losing is not asking for a fight in my opinion. So let me get this straight you dont take any pleasure in getting one over on a team your colleague at work supports so you can rub it in on a monday morning? The rivalry I'm on about is nothing more than that and at the end of the day is why we support a team, if not we would all be neutrals
Jonbluefox9 Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 It used to be banter, now it's a bunch of kids who think that singing "small town in Aresenal" at the Spurs fans is the future. At Filbert Street, there was the usual orchestrated parade of chants, but there was enough spontaneity about as well. "Who let the frogs out" (considered one of the best chants of all time) was not pre-planned on the 'net, or in the pub. Those days have long gone, or so it would seem. The problem with atmosphere at the WS is down to on-pitch performance inducing apathy amongst he supporters, not because we are not next to the away fans, or that we all apparently sat in the Carling Stand, which you know is not true. It's better than nothing. I hate it when people criticise others but then offer no alternative. At least those in L1 make an effort to sing throughout, even if the songs aren't the most original or creative. Singing is singing. "Small town in Arsenal" is better than the alternative of just silence in my opinion.
Scow Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 It's better than nothing. I hate it when people criticise others but then offer no alternative. At least those in L1 make an effort to sing throughout, even if the songs aren't the most original or creative. Singing is singing. "Small town in Arsenal" is better than the alternative of just silence in my opinion. No it isn't. It just makes us look like a bunch of clueless twats. Arsenal isn't actually a place, you know. Are L1 still singing: 'We heard you slept with your sister' to every team?
john_lcfc Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 why the hell is it called a kop? does someone have a definition? i thought a kop was where 16-40 year old men made the majority of the crowd and sang a variety of songs getting behind the lads singing at the away fans/team having a great day out.. a lot stood up aswelll.. well the kop at leicester is no true kop..sk1 was but not now..L1 is the only place a variety of songs are sung and standing happens and if more joined it could be a decent "kop" but at the moment we have no true kop..fact
prayforsnow Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 why the hell is it called a kop? does someone have a definition? i thought a kop was where 16-40 year old men made the majority of the crowd and sang a variety of songs getting behind the lads singing at the away fans/team having a great day out.. a lot stood up aswelll.. well the kop at leicester is no true kop..sk1 was but not now..L1 is the only place a variety of songs are sung and standing happens and if more joined it could be a decent "kop" but at the moment we have no true kop..fact Totally agree
Cobbo Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 Can't be arsed with the whole thread but that was a silly thing to do. Best goal ever to be scored at the Walkers really and you left because people weren't giving the manager who nearly destroyed us enough stick? Why should we? He's a twat and not worthy of the noise that leaves my arse let alone my mouth. The atmosphere in the kop seemed good to me (quiet at times, as always) and the game actually wasn't all that, as 3-2's go it was bloody rubbish.
Swedging Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 why the hell is it called a kop? does someone have a definition? Copy of a Liverpool stand. (Or should that be Kopy?) Loads of grounds do without a Kop - Arsenal, Cheatski, Spurs have their own traditional stand names. It's faintly damning that we don't have our own.
Libertine Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 On the subject of kops, what the hell does spion mean?
Swedging Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 On the subject of kops, what the hell does spion mean? It's just a misspelling of Spioen.. It's meant to go back to the Liverpool kop (then little more than a bank of earth) being reminiscent of a hill (Spioenkop) in South Africa where we were soundly trounced in the Boer wars. I dunno though - it seems to ready-made and sanitised a story.
Cobbo Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 On the subject of kops, what the hell does spion mean? It originates from a dyslexic person depicting what a policeman that looked like a back bone should be called.
Jonbluefox9 Posted 5 March 2006 Posted 5 March 2006 No it isn't. It just makes us look like a bunch of clueless twats. Arsenal isn't actually a place, you know. Are L1 still singing: 'We heard you slept with your sister' to every team? Ok, we'll sing nothing and be viewed as boring twats who don't sing. Much better.
Guest Posted 6 March 2006 Posted 6 March 2006 A number of clubs called areas 'Spion Kop' after a battle that took place during the Boer War. Kop comes from kopje, which means 'small hill', which is essentially what these stands (such as they were) used to be like. To go back to the assumption that moving the present Kop to the North stand, should the Kops at both Anfield and Hillsborough consider moving? Fans do NOT need to be next to the away fans to generate an atmosphere. To say that an atmosphere can only be created by spending 90 minutes focusing your attention on the away fans is a pathetic excuse, and seems to me to be lazy. I think too many fans are focusing too much on the fact the design and layout of the stadium, not on the other issues that contribute to matchday atmosphere. When I go to away games, it makes me laugh to see a bunch of wannabes who want to spend 90 minutes trying to wind me up by telling me that Leicester is in fact a small town in Derby, and that I have apparently slept with a number members of my own family. I feel embarrassed that people think this of Leicester fans. I'd rather be thought of as boring than have people laughing at me because i think Arsenal is a place. At Filbert Street, most of the noise came from a section of the Kop. When we moved, these were split amongst L1 and the South stand at the WS. The South stand holds around 9,000, which could be over double the entire Kop of Filbert St (at a guess). So fewer of the singers, in a larger area dispersed amongst fans who were not part of the original Kop. And don't forget that not all ex-Koppites sang. The area near to the Carling Stand was not as noisy. We also have higher attendances than we did at Filbert Street. We only ever got close to 21,000 sell outs in the Premiership. We are averaging more than that now. This suggests that there are people at the WS who never went to Filbert Street. If this is the case, they won't know what SK1 was like, so how can you have a go at them for that? On pitch performance makes all the difference - people are forgetting that the atmosphere in the first season at the WS, when we were heading for promotion plus the fact the whole footballing world was against us, wasn't as bad as people make out. At the end of the day, I want to go to support my team. I will do this. However, if the person who sits next to me doesn't want to join in, so what? That's their decision. I don't care if they give me dirty looks. I certainly won't use that as an excuse not to sing, and I definitely won't be criticising them for not joining in! Who are you to say who can and cannot go to watch football matches?
Katy Posted 6 March 2006 Posted 6 March 2006 Lets face facts here, Leicester have pretty much always had fans who react to whats going on on the pitch. The game on saturday started off dull and lifeless so the fans were, if the team come out if the blocks running then we react to that. We dont have proactive fans - fact! As for Taylor being booed, there were the few obvious chants of 'Peter Taylor warra willy puller' etc in F1 but nothing major. I think people were half asleep during the first half anyway
werestandingup_weresittingdown Posted 6 March 2006 Posted 6 March 2006 These are the facts - 'KOP' - Absolutely pathetic and not a kop at all. Sporadic chants. Didnt hear them at all on saturday!! Embarassing. Didnt give taylor ANY stick. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 'L1' - At least they gave it a go. Stood and sang for the majority of the 90mins. This section is a million times more like a kop than anywhere else in the ground. The people on here who slag off the L1ers, fock right off. If there was no people singing in L1 i dread to think what the atmosphere would be like. Chavs, scumbags, wannabe hooligans blah blah blah. VOCAL SUPPORT - thats what they are. Like ive said before, any singers need to move to L1. You voice is wasted anywhere else because there will undoubtedly a miserable bastard behind you telling you to shut up and sit down. L1 - Keep up the good work. Rest of WS - at least your hands must me quite warm after sitting on them for 90mins.
Katy Posted 6 March 2006 Posted 6 March 2006 These are the facts - 'KOP' - Absolutely pathetic and not a kop at all. Sporadic chants. Didnt hear them at all on saturday!! Embarassing. Didnt give taylor ANY stick. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 'L1' - At least they gave it a go. Stood and sang for the majority of the 90mins. This section is a million times more like a kop than anywhere else in the ground. The people on here who slag off the L1ers, fock right off. If there was no people singing in L1 i dread to think what the atmosphere would be like. Chavs, scumbags, wannabe hooligans blah blah blah. VOCAL SUPPORT - thats what they are. Like ive said before, any singers need to move to L1. You voice is wasted anywhere else because there will undoubtedly a miserable bastard behind you telling you to shut up and sit down. L1 - Keep up the good work. Rest of WS - at least your hands must me quite warm after sitting on them for 90mins. Couldnt hear L1 in F1 on saturday to be fair. Im not sure how you can hear us if we cant hear you but nevermind ay.
Ric Flair Posted 6 March 2006 Posted 6 March 2006 Not read all of this thread as i'm lazy, but I was embarrassed by our support on saturday. Not only was the attendance piss poor considering it was the return of the twat but then the lack of noise was pathetic. We weren't even singing our normal songs, let alone the armoury of abuse we had lined up for Taylor. I would have left at half-time if I could be arsed to get up and walk, it was too cold to do that. I've gorwn to accept that since we've moved to The Walkers that we'll have a constant battle on our hands to ever make the place a fotress of noise, I personally think that 20,000 fans should offer their voice boxes as doners because they obviously don't require them! I tried to get some chants going and people looked at me in amazement as if I was the only one who hated him. You can say that we've moved on but have we really? We still all waffle on about O'Neill so how have we moved on from an era where a manager has destroyed this club probably forever single handidly? The mind boggles.
Guest Posted 6 March 2006 Posted 6 March 2006 These are the facts -'KOP' - Absolutely pathetic and not a kop at all. Sporadic chants. Didnt hear them at all on saturday!! Embarassing. Didnt give taylor ANY stick. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 'L1' - At least they gave it a go. Stood and sang for the majority of the 90mins. This section is a million times more like a kop than anywhere else in the ground. The people on here who slag off the L1ers, fock right off. If there was no people singing in L1 i dread to think what the atmosphere would be like. Chavs, scumbags, wannabe hooligans blah blah blah. VOCAL SUPPORT - thats what they are. Like ive said before, any singers need to move to L1. You voice is wasted anywhere else because there will undoubtedly a miserable bastard behind you telling you to shut up and sit down. L1 - Keep up the good work. Rest of WS - at least your hands must me quite warm after sitting on them for 90mins. Grow up.
Phube Posted 6 March 2006 Posted 6 March 2006 These are the facts - [ 'L1' - At least they gave it a go. Stood and sang for the majority of the 90mins. This section is a million times more like a kop than anywhere else in the ground. The people on here who slag off the L1ers, fock right off. If there was no people singing in L1 i dread to think what the atmosphere would be like. Chavs, scumbags, wannabe hooligans blah blah blah. VOCAL SUPPORT - thats what they are. Like I said before are these the same 90 minuters who ALL tooped out and missed at lest 10-15 minutes of the match around half-time??? I even thought they were being ejected (due to persistant standing) as it was a constant stream of Burberry and Stone Island heading for the exit!!!
Sparky Posted 6 March 2006 Posted 6 March 2006 i have a right go at singing / chanting in the kop and if people dont want to join in then thats up to them , we cant make people sing if they dont want to. i tried L1 5 or 6 times last season and although it was slightly better than the kop it just seemed to be a whos who of glen parva prison in there . a chap of around 15 kitted out in burburry from head to toe was behind me trying to sing when your smiling and just making up the words as he went along persuaded me to go straight back in to the kop
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