tedray Posted 20 April 2006 Share Posted 20 April 2006 John Goddard of the University of Wales has shown that in a typical week there are about 45% home wins and only about 27% away wins. Thirty years ago there were 50% home and only 21% aways. Interestingly, the further the away team has to travel, the worse they do. Why is this? Do the teams get travel weary? Do fewer fans travel long distance, so provide less encouragement? Is this why local derbies seem to result in draws? Have tactics changed over thirty years? If so, could City adopt different tactics to improve their away results? Perhaps travel has become less stressful since the '70s and takes less out of the players? My first post, so apologies if I havn't followed the right protocols. Ted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onion Posted 20 April 2006 Share Posted 20 April 2006 The further they go, the less fans want to travel..to have a few thousand supporters obviously helps build the confidence for the side; therefore the time get results. On another note, I think LCFC should pay for the coachers to away games for fans every away game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmastonFox Posted 20 April 2006 Share Posted 20 April 2006 On another note, I think LCFC should pay for the coachers to away games for fans every away game I think that could be a little extreme, perhaps a better subsidy for fans wanting to travel officially. But in the financial situation we are in I just don't think that it would be a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 20 April 2006 Share Posted 20 April 2006 I think that could be a little extreme, perhaps a better subsidy for fans wanting to travel officially. But in the financial situation we are in I just don't think that it would be a good idea. It could only be considered good business sense in cup matches where we get a share of the gate, even then i think it would be silly unless a one off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 20 April 2006 Share Posted 20 April 2006 John Goddard of the University of Wales has shown that in a typical week there are about 45% home wins and only about 27% away wins. Thirty years ago there were 50% home and only 21% aways. Interestingly, the further the away team has to travel, the worse they do. Why is this? Do the teams get travel weary? Do fewer fans travel long distance, so provide less encouragement? Is this why local derbies seem to result in draws? Have tactics changed over thirty years? If so, could City adopt different tactics to improve their away results? Perhaps travel has become less stressful since the '70s and takes less out of the players? My first post, so apologies if I havn't followed the right protocols. Ted. I think it's psychological, teams and fans think it's going to be harder to win away, giving a distinct disadvantage to start off with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phube Posted 20 April 2006 Share Posted 20 April 2006 Right dodgy reffing doesn't help!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbeth Posted 20 April 2006 Share Posted 20 April 2006 welcome and good topic the only reason other than already stated that i can think of is, the condition of the home playing surface texture etc as to how the ball travels , the home team would be more familiar, think of the advantage gained when luton had astroturf and they seemed almost impossible to beat at home ; it might seem minor but but at a very high level minor differences can be important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scow Posted 20 April 2006 Share Posted 20 April 2006 It can sometimes be a number of small factors which amount to one big advantage for the home team. Lisa is right in saying it's psychological. Teams playing at home are encouraged to take the game to the opposition, otherwise the fans wouldn't be happy. If the fans are not happy, they're not likely to turn up (except the hardcore base), pressure is then placed on the manager and so on. That's perhaps one of the factors why there is a difference, but it's a general one, and it obviously varies from team to team. Welcome to the forum, Tedray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestan Pance Posted 20 April 2006 Share Posted 20 April 2006 Several factors I would think, The familarity with your own stadium and surroundings would help but also the home crowd harrassing the ref (which is not a bad thing). I read somewhere that home teams generally concede less penalties, have less players sent off and have less bookings than their opponents so, however a ref tries to be impartial it's only human nature to try to protect yourself from any unnecessary abuse. Surely this is the only explaination as to why Man U and others have conceded so few penalties at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syston_fox Posted 20 April 2006 Share Posted 20 April 2006 On another note, I think LCFC should pay for the coachers to away games for fans every away game. I think it would be a good gesture to do it for one a season like west brom do but I dont see why thet should do it for every game. Not like the club is made of money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn Posted 20 April 2006 Share Posted 20 April 2006 It's something I've always been curious about as well. The team I play for has a home record of P11 W8 D2 L1 whereas the away record is P11 W2 D1 L8. Baffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 20 April 2006 Share Posted 20 April 2006 Several factors I would think, The familarity with your own stadium and surroundings would help but also the home crowd harrassing the ref (which is not a bad thing). I read somewhere that home teams generally concede less penalties, have less players sent off and have less bookings than their opponents so, however a ref tries to be impartial it's only human nature to try to protect yourself from any unnecessary abuse. Surely this is the only explaination as to why Man U and others have conceded so few penalties at home. Yeah that, and the size of the pitch. And the players get an extra hour in bed while they dont have to travel hence get extra nookie, hence are more motivated :op. Just a theory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherwin Posted 20 April 2006 Share Posted 20 April 2006 Hi Ted! haven't seen you on the tele for about 35 years whoosh, straight over the top of everybody's head! I'll get me coat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedray Posted 21 April 2006 Author Share Posted 21 April 2006 It can sometimes be a number of small factors which amount to one big advantage for the home team. Lisa is right in saying it's psychological. Teams playing at home are encouraged to take the game to the opposition, otherwise the fans wouldn't be happy. If the fans are not happy, they're not likely to turn up (except the hardcore base), pressure is then placed on the manager and so on. That's perhaps one of the factors why there is a difference, but it's a general one, and it obviously varies from team to team. Welcome to the forum, Tedray. Thanks for the nice welcome. I agree that the home side feels obliged to attack, but what fascinates me is that if this is a winning strategy, why doesn't the away team try it as well? We tried it at school, (the Gateway), many years ago and lost most of our away matches. Mind you, we lost most of our home matches too, so we didn't prove much either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbeth Posted 21 April 2006 Share Posted 21 April 2006 Hi Ted! haven't seen you on the tele for about 35 years whoosh, straight over the top of everybody's head! I'll get me coat no thats who i thought of as well / wasn't he the mr nice guy judge on NEW FACES to mickey most who was the simon cowell of the 70s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted 21 April 2006 Share Posted 21 April 2006 i think this is a big sporting mystery that has never really been solved. i think what lisa said about psycology isnt far from the truth , heres an example euro 2004 play offs scotland 1 holland 0 holland 6 scotland 0 it was still 11 vs 11 in both games surely crowd and surroundings dont make that much different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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