Leicester Lass Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 In Scotland England shirt attacks condemned Attacks on a seven-year-old boy and 41-year-old man while wearing England shirts in Scotland are being treated as football-related racist assaults. Politicians and police have condemned the attacks in Edinburgh and Aberdeen. Primary schoolboy Hugo Clapshaw was punched in a park in Edinburgh and disabled man Ian Smith was badly bruised after being hit in Aberdeen. Hugo told BBC Scotland: "I just felt this big whack and I started crying. His eyes looked very fierce." Hugo, a New Zealander who has lived in Edinburgh for two years with his family, said: "He whacked me on the head very very hard and it's left a big bruise. "It was maybe because I had an England shirt on. He told my dad I should be supporting Scotland not England. It was serious because it was a big shock and very painful." Hugo had been playing with his family in Edinburgh's Inverleith Park on Saturday afternoon when he was punched by a man thought to be aged between 24 and 30. His father Damon, 34, who was also assaulted, said the man had been wearing a Rangers top. He said: "Hugo still wants to wear his England top to support a British team. He's a kilted Kiwi." A spokesperson for Lothian and Borders Police described the attack as "cowardly and pathetic". In Aberdeen, Mr Smith was sitting in his parked car on Anderson Road when he was dragged from the vehicle and beaten up on Tuesday. Mr Smith is a retired postman originally from Peterborough and has been in Aberdeen for about 12 years He struggled with his attacker and was left requiring treatment for injuries to his face. Mr Smith said: "He was a psychopath, it was a totally unprovoked racist attack because I was wearing an England top and displaying an England flag." The attacker was described as a man in his early 40s, muscular, 5ft 6in tall, and wore a donkey jacket. He was last seen heading along Clifton Road. The Scottish National Party's justice spokesman, Kenny MacAskill said: "It's appalling behaviour and should be punished. "We have to get a sense of perspective, this is a football tournament, not a re-run of the Battle of Bannockburn or tribal warfare. "Hopefully these are limited incidents and should be addressed and punished. Aberdeen South Labour MP Anne Begg said she hoped to raise the attacks at prime minister's questions in the House of Commons. Speaking to the BBC Scotland news website about the attack on her constituent: "I am horrified, this is not typical of Aberdeen which is a welcoming city. People from England live and work here. "There's a difference between supporting any team and violence because they are wearing an England strip. "It lets down the Tartan Army which goes abroad and does not get into trouble."
Babylon Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 I'm suprised racism towards a white, english person even made the news.
Phube Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 I'm suprised racism towards a white, english person even made the news. ooh head down, with comments like that, Steven could be about!!
macbeth Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 ooh head down, with comments like that, Steven could be about!! glad you warned me i was thinking along similar lines
Steven Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 ooh head down, with comments like that, Steven could be about!! I am anti-Racism whomsoever it is directed at.
Phube Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 I am anti-Racism whomsoever it is directed at. Well then I'll respecfull withdraw my previous comment!!
Daggers Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 In Scotland ...the man had been wearing a Rangers top... ...He was a psychopath... Amazing. Rangers - psychopath I never thought I'd see those words feature in the same article
filbertway Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 Amazing. Rangers - psychopath I never thought I'd see those words feature in the same article On a seriosu note, shocking behaviour from the attackers
Deathside Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 And there was I thinking that the majority of rangers fans consider themselves english
Head Honcho Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 And there was I thinking that the majority of rangers fans consider themselves english You'd be hard pushed to find one in a packed Ibrox on a saturday afternoon, so how on earth you thought that is mind boggling!
Babylon Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 And there was I thinking that the majority of rangers fans consider themselves english They fly union flags not st george flags.
Thracian Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 I'm suprised racism towards a white, english person even made the news. A kid and a cripple!. Scotland the Brave.
Deathside Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 They fly union flags not st george flags. I guess that'd be right - british not english It's all bollox to me
Lemon Harpic Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 Scotland is an insular, parochial and racist hellhole, full of violent halfwits who detest the English. The victims both lived in Scotland long enough to know this. I'm not saying that they deserved to be attacked, but they must have been aware that wearing the three lions put them at risk of this sort of thing.
Daggers Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 Scotland is an insular, parochial and racist hellhole, full of violent halfwits who detest the English. I'm sick of people sitting on the fence on this issue ... why can't someone tell it like it is?!
macbeth Posted 22 June 2006 Posted 22 June 2006 A kid and a cripple!. Scotland the Brave. too right william wallace's braveheart lives nice one
Gamesmaster Posted 22 June 2006 Posted 22 June 2006 They fly union flags not st george flags. Some rangers fans do fly the cross of St George. Anti-English racism in scotland and wales is bigger than you might think. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2224705,00.html http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=375&id=586482002 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/1512096.stm
Head Honcho Posted 22 June 2006 Posted 22 June 2006 Scotland is an insular, parochial and racist hellhole, full of violent halfwits who detest the English. The victims both lived in Scotland long enough to know this. I'm not saying that they deserved to be attacked, but they must have been aware that wearing the three lions put them at risk of this sort of thing. Now Now Being a proud Scotsman I find this extremely offensive! But because I've got big shoulders I'm not going to start crying and wingeing about it as do most other minority races! I thought you'd be the last person to be coming out with crap like this. That statement is no different to saying that all Muslims are terrorist and I'd expect a bit better from you matey
Gamesmaster Posted 22 June 2006 Posted 22 June 2006 Being a proud Scotsman I find this extremely offensive! But because I've got big shoulders I'm not going to start crying and wingeing about it as do most other minority races! I thought you'd be the last person to be coming out with crap like this. Just a few tears shred beyond your shoulders then
Thracian Posted 22 June 2006 Posted 22 June 2006 Now Now Being a proud Scotsman I find this extremely offensive! But because I've got big shoulders I'm not going to start crying and wingeing about it as do most other minority races! I thought you'd be the last person to be coming out with crap like this. That statement is no different to saying that all Muslims are terrorist and I'd expect a bit better from you matey Just to be provocative I wonder how many Scots, given a free vote, would like it to be illegal for anyone but a Scotsman to run their country - as is already the case of course? If memory serves, there was a time in Switzerland when an ordinary citizen could propose such a law (for Scots or for Swiss to run their land) and given enough support from the Canton where they lived, the proposal would have to be voted on.
Head Honcho Posted 22 June 2006 Posted 22 June 2006 Just a few tears shred beyond your shoulders then You got it I'm disappointed more than anything,. It seems that it's ok to have a pop at the Scots and for it to be treated as a joke (which I'm sure in most cases it is). Yet someone the other day got upset because the word Chinky was used when referring to a chinese meal
macbeth Posted 22 June 2006 Posted 22 June 2006 Just to be provocative I wonder how many Scots, given a free vote, would like it to be illegal for anyone but a Scotsman to run their country - as is already the case of course? If memory serves, there was a time in Switzerland when an ordinary citizen could propose such a law and given enough support from the Canton where they lived, the proposal would have to be voted on. what ? the swiss voted that only scotsmen could run their country thats weird
Thracian Posted 22 June 2006 Posted 22 June 2006 what ? the swiss voted that only scotsmen could run their country thats weird Sorry Macbeth. But to explain a system which, as I understand it, might appeal to you, and which may still be the case today any Switzerland national resident could propose any law providing they first collected evidence of sufficient support by way of a petition. Once that level of support were proven the proposal had to be put to the vote and could become law if supported. Swissfox may correct me on any misconceptions about this information but that was how it was told to me during my time coaching there. PS: Why should the Swiss not be persuaded to campaign for a Scot to run their land??? After all they persuaded us to let em run England!!!!.
Head Honcho Posted 22 June 2006 Posted 22 June 2006 Just to be provocative I wonder how many Scots, given a free vote, would like it to be illegal for anyone but a Scotsman to run their country - as is already the case of course? If memory serves, there was a time in Switzerland when an ordinary citizen could propose such a law and given enough support from the Canton where they lived, the proposal would have to be voted on. What's that got to do with anything? That could apply to any country. The reason for why there are so many Scots in high office at Westminster is simple, they are part of an elected government and have been deemed the most suitable for the job and should the public choose to vote them out at the next election they have the right to do so. There's nothing stopping an Englishman being in the Scottish Parliament, I'd be surprised if there isn't one but if they don't step up to the plate, don't blame the people of Scotland for not electing them.
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