nandojolob Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Thanks - it's good to get things off your chest !!!
Thracian Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Very True, Play offs would be a tall order for us now (that an understatment IMHO), but i think we can have a strong finish and properly rebuild over the summer, two or three new players in the Jan window and a heavy overhaul of the training staff over Christmass is what is needed... just hope Milan's still interested after RK and the players "efforts" of late Oh and... Welcome (if a jr member of the forum like me is able to say that). Funny you should mention the training staff. I was just wondering what Beaglehole would do with our team. How he would line up and what it would look like. Not that I'd wish the present problems on anyone. Why is it Leicester never put anything right until it develops into a crisis?. And I'm not particularly talking about the manager. Weak positions, failed tactics, players' fitness and availability, making funds available, identifying priority signings etc. Why do we make the job harder than necessary?
tsmiggy Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Can a coach become a manager overnight............ NO I DONT THINK SO Can a goalkeeping coach become a team coach overnight.......NO I DONT THINK SO It was always the cheap option.......... and looks like the wrong option.
nandojolob Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Very True, Play offs would be a tall order for us now (that an understatment IMHO), but i think we can have a strong finish and properly rebuild over the summer, two or three new players in the Jan window and a heavy overhaul of the training staff over Christmass is what is needed... just hope Milan's still interested after RK and the players "efforts" of late Oh and... Welcome (if a jr member of the forum like me is able to say that). It's been a long, hard 42 years I can assure you !!!!
Ricey Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Tonight for the first time I'm really starting to doubt whether Kelly is the right man for the job. With the takeover looking imminent and our league position looking worringying, I think it's time for a change of management. However I guess we'll see how Kelly does up until Xmas.
Mort Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Funny you should mention the training staff. I was just wondering what Beaglehole would do with our team. How he would line up and what it would look like. Not that I'd wish the present problems on anyone. Why is it Leicester never put anything right until it develops into a crisis?. And I'm not particularly talking about the manager. Weak positions, failed tactics, players' fitness and availability, making funds available, identifying priority signings etc. Why do we make the job harder than necessary? I wouldnt touch the Academy staff, you simply cant argue with what they've produced, it would be nice though if we could look into more over-lap between our reserves and the Academy players, as it would help with really developing the talent that we clearly have at that level. I'd agree that Beaglehole should, if it's possible, be more fully involved with the rest of the training staff and any new manager, coaches etc... indeed by creating far greater overlap between our reserves and our academy players the basis for an expanded role could be established... but thats just be my two pence worth.
Finnegan Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 So... uh... that Earnshaw, eh? *Coughs*, er, handy chap him.. er... *rubs neck*. Uhm...
BartonFox Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 I wouldnt touch the Academy staff, you simply cant argue with what they've produced, it would be nice though if we could look into more over-lap between our reserves and the Academy players, as it would help with really developing the talent that we clearly have at that level. I'd agree that Beaglehole should, if it's possible, be more fully involved with the rest of the training staff and any new manager, coaches etc... indeed by creating far greater overlap between our reserves and our academy players the basis for an expanded role could be established... but thats just be my two pence worth. Without pouring cold water on Beaglehole, only Weslowski has been anywhere near good enough for the first team. Sheehan isn't yet and I doubt he'll make the step and there is no way O'Grady or Porter will ever make it in this division. Obi-one-kan-obi may make it but he is nowhere near ready at present. Beaglehole and Rudkin should be left to do what they clearly do best and give us a chance to produce our own.
Thracian Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 Without pouring cold water on Beaglehole, only Weslowski has been anywhere near good enough for the first team. Sheehan isn't yet and I doubt he'll make the step and there is no way O'Grady or Porter will ever make it in this division. Obi-one-kan-obi may make it but he is nowhere near ready at present. Beaglehole and Rudkin should be left to do what they clearly do best and give us a chance to produce our own. I've mentioned Beaglehole in relation to Keegan on another thread. He's not got the top level experiience to be manager. But I guess we'll always see players differently. I have no doubt Porter will do fine in this League or any other. Even today, apart from one cock up, he sounded as if he was involved in a lot of the better things we did and he is one player who would find it easier the better the people he was playing with. O'Grady and Sheehan need to be fit, for a start, before they'll convince anyone of anything but improvements are clear to see in many Academy players - compared to the first team where people seem so rarely to improve. Tom Tejan-Sie is a dramatic example - his progress over the last 15 months has been spectacular - but my bet for the next ones through would be Louis Dodds, followed by Andy King and then Joe Mattock.
thesledgehammer86 Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 Kisnorbo is slowly getting back to his old form and he was the cause at sheeps place and now he makes a disaster waiting to happen when the apparently the second goal was his fault
eaststandtom Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 What is it about his resolute aversion to attack teams...until it is too ****ing late? How many times does this have to happen before he understands that his tactics are woefully inept, to approach every game to fluke a win is ridiculous. To take off the form player to date? Madness. How much am I looking forward to Saturday? i dont know what it would achieve if he was to go but for sure he picks the wrong team. why was maybury left back last night??? why is tiatto near leicester let alone playing for the team? why doesnt he play 5-3-2? we could be more solid all over
davieG Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 From the Mercury/Blue Army site: What's with the headline???? Tigers tamed by Canaries Norwich 3 v 1 Leicester City Robert Earnshaw was Norwich's saviour once again as he scored and created another to give the Canaries a deserved 3-1 win in the Coca-Cola Championship clash with Leicester. The Canaries had fallen behind in the first half thanks to a Paddy McCarthy header, but goals from Carl Robinson and the industrious Welshman helped secure maximum points for Peter Grant's side. Norwich started the brighter and it was Dion Dublin that had the evening's first proper chance. Robinson put in a deep corner which found the veteran, but the resulting shot drifted over the crossbar. Leicester soon found their feet and six minutes later they should have gone ahead. Elvis Hammond intercepted a clearance from Jason Shackell but he hit his shot into the side-netting. The Foxes continued to press and Iain Hume should have done better with his header after some good work down the left-hand side from Danny Tiatto. The Australian was in fine form in the first 30 minutes and it was he who created the opportunity for the Foxes to fire ahead. Tiatto floated in an inch-perfect free-kick from the right which found McCarthy lurking at the back post. The 23-year-old connected perfectly to head the ball firmly into the roof of the net. Before the game Grant urged fans for more encouragement, and to their credit the Carrow Road faithful remained upbeat. Darren Huckerby brought them to their feet in the 39th minute when he rifled in a strike from 25 yards but Conrad Logan in the Leicester goal was more than equal to his effort. But Robinson soon had them cheering when he connected with a Huckerby cross to head home from close range. The 30-year-old peeled away from his marker and planted the ball past the outstretched Logan into the left-hand corner. After the break neither side really came out firing but as the half wore on Norwich asserted their authority and deservedly took the lead. In the 59th minute Earnshaw had wasted a clear-cut opportunity but he made an immediate amends when Youssef Safri put him through to score his 13th goal of the season. The 25-year-old showed poise and finesse to dink the ball over the onrushing goalkeeper from 12 yards. Leicester had no choice but to push forward but the Norwich defence remained resolute. That left their own back four vulnerable and Earnshaw nearly punished them a second time when he rose to meet another well-placed Huckerby cross. The header forced a good save from Logan. Norwich were a constant threat on the counter-attack and were gifted the points in the final minute when Gareth McAuley deflected the ball into his own net. Earnshaw caused problems once again and it was his shot that forced Logan to parry the ball against McAuley and into the empty net.
Daggers Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 Tigers tamed by Canaries It must have been YTS day at the Office, either that or hard liquor ~ that's the only method I can find to help me cope with this season.
davieG Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 Leveinesque Quotes Kelly Post Norwich Rob Kelly vowed to remain positive despite his side's 3-1 defeat at the hands of Norwich City at Carrow Road on Tuesday night. The City boss refused to shy away from the fact that individual errors had cost his side dearly on the night. (Does that include the manager?) But Kelly confirmed that his players would now be redoubling their efforts on the training pitch ahead of Saturday's clash against Sheffield Wednesday. (How can you redouble your efforts?) He said: "I am not in the business of making excuses. We have come away from home and got beaten 3-1. That is down to me. "We are going through a tough spell at the moment and that gives you a choice. You can either run away from it or work even harder. That's what we will do. We will not run away from it. "The reason that it isn't happening for us at the moment is because we aren't scoring enough goals and we aren't keeping them out at the other end. (What a revelation! So you're doing absolutely NOTHING right then?) We are disappointed with that, but in the end that's down to me. (Well there's the truth!) "But I was pleased with the way that we played in the first half and I think we controlled most of the game. "I have got great faith and great belief in the players. (Trouble is they don't seem to have belief in you or themselves) We will continue to work hard." City skipper Paddy McCarthy was forced to leave the field of play through injury during the second half, but Kelly confirmed that it was too early to make an assessment on his defender. He added: "He did his shoulder first of all and that was sore. He has then got a knock on his knee and that is quite swollen. We have another look at it on Wednesday morning."
Wycombe Fox Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 Tigers tamed by Canaries Leicester had no choice but to push forward but the Norwich defence remained resolute. That's right - we had no choice but to push forward. It's just a pity that we didn't take that option. That report makes it sound like we really got up and at them once we went 2-1 down. Didn't sound like that to me. Tigers?!?! FFS!
The People's Hero Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 Ermmm... Where have the Kelly sympathists gone? Where are the oh-so-relevant bleatings about him 'saving' us last year? Where's the ready made excuses about injuries and officiating? Where's the refusal to smell the coffee? This lot are a shower and the fact they're not even playing for their jobs yet with a new owner coming in.... well, I'm not sure whether it surprises me or not. What a bunch of wan kers. Rob Kelly - fu ck off.
gatesheadfox Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 Ermmm... Where have the Kelly sympathists gone? Where are the oh-so-relevant bleatings about him 'saving' us last year? Where's the ready made excuses about injuries and officiating? Where's the refusal to smell the coffee? This lot are a shower and the fact they're not even playing for their jobs yet with a new owner coming in.... well, I'm not sure whether it surprises me or not. What a bunch of wan kers. Rob Kelly - fu ck off. he saved us last year. he's a nice bloke, i'd invite him round for crumpets on sunday if he would like to come for tea he'd be welcome also.......usual poopie, plus we had a good october
Tevez Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 who gave away the ball to give earnshaw his goal?
Manwell Pablo Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 I've mentioned Beaglehole in relation to Keegan on another thread. He's not got the top level experiience to be manager. But I guess we'll always see players differently. I have no doubt Porter will do fine in this League or any other. Even today, apart from one cock up, he sounded as if he was involved in a lot of the better things we did and he is one player who would find it easier the better the people he was playing with. O'Grady and Sheehan need to be fit, for a start, before they'll convince anyone of anything but improvements are clear to see in many Academy players - compared to the first team where people seem so rarely to improve. Tom Tejan-Sie is a dramatic example - his progress over the last 15 months has been spectacular - but my bet for the next ones through would be Louis Dodds, followed by Andy King and then Joe Mattock. One cock up. Best passer of the ball at this club you say, doesn't waste possession you say. Bollocks I say.
Wils Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 who gave away the ball to give earnshaw his goal? That was Kisnorbo. Overall we didnt actually play to bad,first half was ok but slack marking for there goal and a crap time to concede just before HT. We didnt look out of it at all in second half,but after they got there second we didnt look like coming back. I was pissed of majorly last night.
Kilworthfox Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 Kisnorbo is slowly getting back to his old form and he was the cause at sheeps place and now he makes a disaster waiting to happen when the apparently the second goal was his fault was just an honest mistake the way most others play he's aloud one mistake. you cannot blame that result just on his mistake
Kilworthfox Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 That was Kisnorbo. Overall we didnt actually play to bad,first half was ok but slack marking for there goal and a crap time to concede just before HT. We didnt look out of it at all in second half,but after they got there second we didnt look like coming back. I was pissed of majorly last night. agree first half was a comptative match and to be hoest 1-1 was fair. the differance in the 2nd was that earnshaw was sharp and punished 1 mistake (prem quality) and we pushed forward late on and conceaded simple as that. performance was not too bad, taking Huuuuuuuuume off was discrase and so was not taking off elvis it just seemed like RK thought well we will stick these on asnd wait and see
Wils Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 agree first half was a comptative match and to be hoest 1-1 was fair. the differance in the 2nd was that earnshaw was sharp and punished 1 mistake (prem quality) and we pushed forward late on and conceaded simple as that. performance was not too bad, taking Huuuuuuuuume off was discrase and so was not taking off elvis it just seemed like RK thought well we will stick these on asnd wait and see Even the sub of Stearman going off for COG amazed me. I know its an attacking substitution but he could of took Low or Maybury off and put Stearman on right he would have caused more touble than Low did. Norwich are a side who will never struggle because they have someone like Earnshaw upfront.
Kilworthfox Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 Even the sub of Stearman going off for COG amazed me. I know its an attacking substitution but he could of took Low or Maybury off and put Stearman on right he would have caused more touble than Low did. Norwich are a side who will never struggle because they have someone like Earnshaw upfront. agree with that too hie played well i thought could have picked maybury or elvis or low or , or ,or .....
Wils Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 It was just daft. I dont understand Kelly sometimes,and how he thinks we can win the game when he takes of our best player when there a others not pulling there wait quite obviosuly.
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