Tevez Posted 3 June 2007 Posted 3 June 2007 Not one player at Chelsea, one of the richest football clubs in the world, agreed to contribute any of their wages to the May Day For Nurses campaign, where footballers are asked to give a day's wages to hard-up Nurses. Of all the 556 Premiership players asked to help with the scheme, only 225 contributed. Well, John Terry and Frank Lampard crying out for mega pound deals and they wont give up a day's wages. Sad.
Head Honcho Posted 3 June 2007 Posted 3 June 2007 I think you'll find they pay more than enough in taxes towards our health service! ..........not to mention the other good causes they may endorse here and in their own country. £40k a week in tax for someone on £100k pays for about 2 nurses a year.
00rawat Posted 3 June 2007 Posted 3 June 2007 Is ain't there a programme on channel 4 about this on this comeing week Thursday?
Thracian Posted 3 June 2007 Posted 3 June 2007 I think you'll find they pay more than enough in taxes towards our health service!..........not to mention the other good causes they may endorse here and in their own country. £40k a week in tax for someone on £100k pays for about 2 nurses a year. Spot on though I suspect you'll get little sympathy from the heartstring pullers. How people decide to spend their wages is their own business. And not every benefactor wishes to make his/her generosity public - for all sorts of reasons.
Wezleylowski Posted 3 June 2007 Posted 3 June 2007 Tevez you really should'nt excite me with thread titles like that. Shame on you
Koke Posted 4 June 2007 Posted 4 June 2007 Tevez you really should'nt excite me with thread titles like that. Shame on you He mislead me too. Wanka.
davieG Posted 4 June 2007 Posted 4 June 2007 The question we should be asking is, why are nurses having to rely on charity to rise above hardship levels? In many instances charities like this let the government of the day off the hook for their total mismanagement the excessive tax they collect off of every worker and non worker. It's still a good cause and there are tight arses in every walk of life.
breadandcheese Posted 4 June 2007 Posted 4 June 2007 I think you'll find they pay more than enough in taxes towards our health service!..........not to mention the other good causes they may endorse here and in their own country. £40k a week in tax for someone on £100k pays for about 2 nurses a year. I suspect that possibly they have some pretty good accountants who can reduce their tax bill quite considerably. Didn't Arsenal have some system going where they paid "loans" rather than wages or something. Maybe it was just for foreign players. Can't really remember. Have found some links. http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/...1566178,00.html http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article576436.ecehttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article576436.ece
Tubes Posted 4 June 2007 Posted 4 June 2007 im sure part of most bigger contacts is that the club pays the tax so if you earn 100k you get 100k not sure where i heard it but sure its true
THEBIGJOHNSTEADER; Posted 4 June 2007 Posted 4 June 2007 im sure part of most bigger contacts is that the club pays the tax so if you earn 100k you get 100knot sure where i heard it but sure its true now that really would leave a bitter taste in my mouth
Jon the Hat Posted 4 June 2007 Posted 4 June 2007 I suspect that possibly they have some pretty good accountants who can reduce their tax bill quite considerably. Didn't Arsenal have some system going where they paid "loans" rather than wages or something. Maybe it was just for foreign players. Can't really remember. There are of course ways of reducing your tax bill, but then to make them worthwhile you have to be paying an awful lot of tax. From a personal point of view, I find the amount of tax I pay in a year distgusting given the state of the various services it is supposed to be paying for. Particularly as I don't use many of them. A fair tax system would do away with the need for those who pay enormous amounts of tax to use tax specialists in the first place.
Jon the Hat Posted 4 June 2007 Posted 4 June 2007 now that really would leave a bitter taste in my mouth Why? It means they are paying even more in tax.
Tubes Posted 4 June 2007 Posted 4 June 2007 Why? It means they are paying even more in tax. how if the club pay it for them?
davieG Posted 4 June 2007 Posted 4 June 2007 how if the club pay it for them? That's just a technicality and provides them with a simpler contract.
Master Fox Posted 4 June 2007 Posted 4 June 2007 Dodds has a tight one Tevez you really should'nt excite me with thread titles like that. Shame on you He mislead me too. Wanka. Hmmm anus cheese Thank goodness for that. You could have been mistaken for thinking this thread was going to be some sort of FT homo erotic lust for tight anuses
Webbo Posted 4 June 2007 Posted 4 June 2007 I'm sure that every body can make a case for more pay, but doesn't this government keep telling us how much more money nurses are earning? I doubt very much that they are on starvation wages, surely any money raised would be better spent on some of the drugs the NHS won't pay for.
Head Honcho Posted 4 June 2007 Posted 4 June 2007 The question we should be asking is, why are nurses having to rely on charity to rise above hardship levels?In many instances charities like this let the government of the day off the hook for their total mismanagement the excessive tax they collect off of every worker and non worker. It's still a good cause and there are tight arses in every walk of life. Anyone who believes nurses are on the breadline need to have a reality check! A nurse with 5 years experience is on about £25000 p/a
davieG Posted 4 June 2007 Posted 4 June 2007 Anyone who believes nurses are on the breadline need to have a reality check!A nurse with 5 years experience is on about £25000 p/a Well I'm asssuming that the charity in question is genuine and therefore by definition some nurses are not above the breadline, whatever that means these days.
Head Honcho Posted 4 June 2007 Posted 4 June 2007 Not one player at Chelsea, one of the richest football clubs in the world, agreed to contribute any of their wages to the May Day For Nurses campaign, where footballers are asked to give a day's wages to hard-up Nurses. Of all the 556 Premiership players asked to help with the scheme, only 225 contributed.Well, John Terry and Frank Lampard crying out for mega pound deals and they wont give up a day's wages. Sad. The money raised will go into a fund administered by the Royal College of Nursing and will be distributed to nurses for things like child care or transport to work. A little snippet from this BBC report: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6650925.stm I wish someone would pay for my petrol
Lillehamring Posted 5 June 2007 Posted 5 June 2007 I think you'll find they pay more than enough in taxes towards our health service!..........not to mention the other good causes they may endorse here and in their own country. £40k a week in tax for someone on £100k pays for about 2 nurses a year. um, everyone who works pays taxes and many still give to charity - the difference with prem players is that they all earn way more than they need to live off and can therefore aford to spare cash easier than mrs bloggs who works at the co-op who still gives a few quid on red nose day... a days salary for some of these players is equivalent to some peoples annual income... premier players paying more than enough taxes? - boo frickin hoo!
Babylon Posted 5 June 2007 Posted 5 June 2007 Personally i'm sick of the whining Firemen, Nurses, Teachers, Government Officals who whine about their wages. When in reality they do actually get paid quite well. Every year without fail they moan at how little their pay rise is.... when in fact there are many people out there who don't get pay rises as standard!! Nursing bands are as follows Clinical support worker nursing (community) band 2 Clinical support worker nursing (hospital) band 2 Clinical support worker nursing higher level (community) band 3 Clinical support worker nursing higher level (hospital) band 3 Clinical support worker nursing higher level (mental health) band 3 Maternity care assistant band 4 Nurse associate practitioner acute band 4 Nurse associate practitioner (community) band 4 Nurse associate practitioner (mental health) band 4 Nursery nurse (community) band 4 Midwife entry level band 5 Nurse band 5 Nurse community band 5 Nurse GP practice band 5 Nurse mental health band 5 Nurse schools band 5 Nurse learning disabilities band 5 Theatre nurse band 5 Health visitor band 6 Midwife community band 6 Midwife hospital band 6 Midwife integrated band 6 Nurse team leader (learning disabilites) band 6 Nurse specialist band 6 Nurse specialist (community) band 6 Nurse specialist (GP practice) band 6 Nurse specialist (learning disability) band 6 Nurse specialist (NHS Direct) band 6 Nurse specialist (schools) band 6 Nurse specialist (special schools) band 6 Nurse specialist mental health (community) band 6 Nurse team leader band 6 Theatre nurse specialist band 6 Health visitor specialist band 7 Health visitor team manager band 7 Midwife higher level band 7 Midwife higher level (research projects) band 7 Midwife team manager band 7 Nurse advanced band 7 Nurse advanced (schools) band 7 Nurse team manager band 7 Nurse team manager (learning disabilities) band 7 Nurse team manager (mental health) community band 7 Nurse team manager (NHS Direct) band 7 Nurse team manager (schools) band 7 Nurse team manager (community) band 7 Nursing health visitor specialist (community practice teacher) band 7 Midwife consultant band 8a-c Modern matron band 8a Nurse consultant band 8a-c Band 1 Point 1 £11,782 Point 2 £12,177 Point 3 £12,514 Point 4 £12,853 Band 2 Point 2 £12,177 Point 3 £12,514 Point 4 £12,853 Point 5 £13,247 Point 6 £13,642 Point 7 £14,037 Point 8 £14,543 Point 9 £15,107 Band 3 Point 7 £14,037 Point 8 £14,543 Point 9 £15,107 Point 10 £15,446 Point 11 £15,897 Point 12 £16,405 Point 13 £16,799 Band 4 Point 12 £16,405 Point 13 £16,799 Point 14 £17,419 Point 15 £18,039 Point 16 £18,602 Point 17 £19,166 Point 18 £19,730 Band 5 Point 17 £19,166 Point 18 £19,730 Point 19 £20,294 Point 20 £20,970 Point 21 £21,646 Point 22 £22,266 Point 23 £22,886 Point 24 £23,789 Point 25 £24,803 Band 6 Point 23 £22,886 Point 24 £23,789 Point 25 £24,803 Point 26 £25,818 Point 27 £26,720 Point 28 £27,622 Point 29 £28,524 Point 30 £29,538 Point 31 £31,004 Band 7 Point 28 £27,622 Point 29 £28,524 Point 30 £29,538 Point 31 £31,004 Point 32 £31,906 Point 33 £32,921 Point 34 £34,048 Point 35 £35,232 Point 36 £36,416 Band 8 Range A Point 35 £35,232 Point 36 £36,416 Point 37 £37,881 Point 38 £39,346 Point 39 £41,038 Point 40 £42,278 Band 8 Range B Point 39 £41,083 Point 40 £42,278 Point 41 £44,420 Point 42 £46,900 Point 43 £49,381 Point 44 £50,733 Band 8 Range C Point 43 £49,381 Point 44 £50,733 Point 45 £52,988 Point 46 £55,469 Point 47 £59,189 Point 48 £60,880 Band 8 Range D Point 47 £59,189 Point 48 £60,880 Point 49 £63,417 Point 50 £66,517 Point 51 £69,899 Point 52 £73,281 Band 9 Point 51 £69,899 Point 52 £73,281 Point 53 £76,798 Point 54 £80,485 Point 55 £84,349 Point 56 £88,397
David O'Leary Posted 5 June 2007 Posted 5 June 2007 them footballers shud be ashamed with themselves all they hav to do is 90 mins payed work per week and nurses work there arses off for little pay and long hours its disgusting
Tevez Posted 10 June 2007 Author Posted 10 June 2007 England stars to play for nothing Skipper Terry is happy to be donating his fee to charity England's footballers have decided to play for the national team for free - and donate their match fees to charity. The squad are to establish a Team England Footballers Charity, which will raise more than £1m before the 2010 World Cup in South Africa. "Every player to a man is looking forward to supporting this charity," said England skipper John Terry. Football Association chief Brian Barwick added: "I am very pleased the whole squad has taken this initiative." I'm overjoyed that the England squad has chosen to support the Bobby Moore Fund for Cancer Research UK Stephanie Moore, widow of Bobby The project has been co-ordinated by 1966 Entertainment - owned by David Beckham's manager Terry Byrne and Simon Fuller - which won the rights to manage the players' commercial affairs last August. Byrne told the Daily Mirror: "I am not going to say we are saving the world or that we should have haloes fitted but as a group the England players wanted to make a difference. 606: DEBATE It's delightful to see that the squad will be donating future match fees to charitable organisations BT "Some people will look at this and say, 'what is £50,000 to someone who can earn that in a week?'. "But the players didn't have to do this, they chose to. They wanted to do some good." The charities set to benefit include the Association of Children's Hospices, WellChild, the Bobby Moore Fund and the Professional Footballers Association Charity Initiatives. Stephanie Moore, widow of Bobby, said: "I'm overjoyed that the England squad has chosen to support the Bobby Moore Fund for Cancer Research UK. "I know that Bobby would have been delighted." In addition to their match fees, the players are expected to undertake additional charitable activities including a grassroots initiative to help disadvantaged youth teams.
act smiley Posted 10 June 2007 Posted 10 June 2007 Personally i'm sick of the whining Firemen, Nurses, Teachers, Government Officals who whine about their wages. When in reality they do actually get paid quite well. I wouldn't say quite well, but its not terrible - its more the amount of work that needs to get done and how much they'd be on if they were working for BUPA or whoever. Also, the government tend to increase the top end a fair bit more than the regular people to make for nicer headlines. The more typical figures are the ones of £19k to £31k, which isn't that bad especially on the upper end of that, but lets face it, for the absurd number of hours it takes to earn that and the amount of training, its not that much. Saying that, the pay levels on that have certainly gone up in the last few years - saying that, I have some trouble believing 5 years experience is all it takes to get £25k like someone here said! I have a relative who used to be a fairly senior nurse (15 years or so of experience, all the letters after the name etc.) in the NHS and got a little under £20k about 4 years ago, on that scale he'd be on £28k if he hadn't left after being on the edge of a breakdown and got a near stressless 9-5 job in a company's medical centre, on £35k+.
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