Our system detected that your browser is blocking advertisements on our site. Please help support FoxesTalk by disabling any kind of ad blocker while browsing this site. Thank you.
Jump to content
Ric Flair

Iain Hume

Recommended Posts

Posted

Stephen Clemence is the captain and would be playing in the Premiership had Bruce not foolishly let him go. There's no way he's not going to play if fit. I've not been overly impressed with him in the past month or two, but then again he's been injured for the most of it. He's more than good enough and if we get a manager interested in getting his team to play football then Clemence will be influential.

He was Player of The Season last year for a team that got promoted, he is quality. As is Wesolowski, they are both as good as any central midfielder in this league on their day, but without creative players alongside them and the right style we'll suffer anyway.

Posted
I never thought I would see a Leicester fan mention Hammond in a proposed team again.

It's like them old five pound coins you used to be able to get, you can still find them from time to time.

Posted

i remember years ago i was chatting to a co-worker in my youth and david oldfield came up in the conversation :blink:

we had the opinion that on his day in the division we were in he was a good midfield player but my co-worker said being good is not good enough if you are inconsistent. thats the main problem with our strikers , they are all inconsistent , including hume.

Posted
Stephen Clemence is the captain and would be playing in the Premiership had Bruce not foolishly let him go. There's no way he's not going to play if fit. I've not been overly impressed with him in the past month or two, but then again he's been injured for the most of it. He's more than good enough and if we get a manager interested in getting his team to play football then Clemence will be influential.

He was Player of The Season last year for a team that got promoted, he is quality. As is Wesolowski, they are both as good as any central midfielder in this league on their day, but without creative players alongside them and the right style we'll suffer anyway.

I couldn't agree more.

Posted
we never created anything anyway but now have a solid defence!

Sadly, at too great a cost. As our eight draws tell us. The whole idea of the authorities introducing 3 points for a win was to discourage such tactics and to make chasing all three points more attractive than playing or settling for a draw. We've lost sight of that and until we refocus on priorities we'll get nowehre.

Posted
Sadly, at too great a cost. As our eight draws tell us. The whole idea of the authorities introducing 3 points for a win was to discourage such tactics and to make chasing all three points more attractive than playing or settling for a draw. We've lost sight of that and until we refocus on priorities we'll get nowehre.

Spot on. Draws are only any good if you still pick up wins fairly regularly as well. But in 15 games, we've won 3 times, which is dreadful.

What makes matters worse is, you don't actually need to be that good at this level to get in to the play-offs, just have a team that fights for each other and has a system that wins it's fair share of matches. I know we are horribly exposed in certain areas such as midfield, but I see no more quality in Ipswich's squad and they are flying!!!. But they play decent football and don't have 7 defenders playing in any given starting eleven.

Posted
i remember years ago i was chatting to a co-worker in my youth and david oldfield came up in the conversation :blink:

we had the opinion that on his day in the division we were in he was a good midfield player but my co-worker said being good is not good enough if you are inconsistent. thats the main problem with our strikers , they are all inconsistent , including hume.

All players are inconsistent - it is the degree that's important. I've always used 7 good games out of 10 as a yardstick - with good earning a player rating of around 6.5.

That allows any player to have two bad games and an average game in any 10 or three average games of, say 5.75/6.25.

However when supposedly good players (and a manager think a player decent if he signs him) start performing below average it is important for managers to try finding out why rather than just dropping people.

Ability doesn't usually change overnight.

Posted
Sadly, at too great a cost. As our eight draws tell us. The whole idea of the authorities introducing 3 points for a win was to discourage such tactics and to make chasing all three points more attractive than playing or settling for a draw. We've lost sight of that and until we refocus on priorities we'll get nowehre.

priorities must be to concede less goals so not to loose more games - that has had an improvement

being as we scored and created bugger all anyway having 5-3-2 makes bugger all difference as far as attacking is concerned

find the players in the squad and make signings if neccersary to fit the system.

if we'd have been 4-4-2 we would have lost more games - like the previous 3 years

Posted
priorities must be to concede less goals so not to loose more games - that has had an improvement

being as we scored and created bugger all anyway having 5-3-2 makes bugger all difference as far as attacking is concerned

find the players in the squad and make signings if neccersary to fit the system.

if we'd have been 4-4-2 we would have lost more games - like the previous 3 years

We've not had three years of 4-4-2 at all. We've had three years of playing seven and eight defenders in a team every week.

Posted
priorities must be to concede less goals so not to loose more games - that has had an improvement

being as we scored and created bugger all anyway having 5-3-2 makes bugger all difference as far as attacking is concerned

find the players in the squad and make signings if neccersary to fit the system.

if we'd have been 4-4-2 we would have lost more games - like the previous 3 years

We'd of had more than the 3 wins we've had this season in a 4-4-2 formation I can almost guarantee you that. We did under Kelly last season and we were proper crap.

We've lost 4 games this season, but look where we are, on the verge of the relegation zone, it's insane.

Posted
Our biggest creative strength is Alan Sheehan so any system has to play to that strength for a start. That would mean McAuley/Kisnorbo at centre-back because they are the most dangerous at set pieces where they'd be helped by one big striker and one midfielder who can join the attack aerially - the only choices being Andy King or, perhaps Iain Hume.

I have to admit it, you're right there. Scarily Sheehan is our biggest creative threat, but sadly it's only from set pieces.

Until we find more ways of creativity Hume isn't going to score goals like has done in the past. I'm not even sure how he managed 14 last season to be honest, we still have a very poor midfield then. I suppose also the increased competition from Fryatt hasn't helped his cause either.

Posted

Hume is about at his level, not bad in this division but would struggle in the premier. The reason he is being played in midfield is because we don't have anyone else who can play there, simple as.

Posted
Hume is about at his level, not bad in this division but would struggle in the premier. The reason he is being played in midfield is because we don't have anyone else who can play there, simple as.

Which is again stupid, because we then sacrifice his goals he scores from attack just because we've been ignorant in the transfer pursuit since the summer.

Posted
Hume is about at his level, not bad in this division but would struggle in the premier. The reason he is being played in midfield is because we don't have anyone else who can play there, simple as.

So you think he'll be back up front against Bristol?

Posted
Which is again stupid, because we then sacrifice his goals he scores from attack just because we've Milan's been ignorant in the transfer pursuit since the summer.

Agreed.

Posted
So you think he'll be back up front against Bristol?

As you yourself said earlier Weso and Clemence are similar and basically defensive, Hume plays (or at lease attempts to) the creative role. If you're saying King could do it better I'll take your word for it.

As for playing him up front I'm not sure he's any better than Fryatt and the 'Fryatt, Hume' combination just doesn't create enough goals. So that's a don't know.

Posted
As you yourself said earlier Weso and Clemence are similar and basically defensive, Hume plays (or at lease attempts to) the creative role. If you're saying King could do it better I'll take your word for it.

As for playing him up front I'm not sure he's any better than Fryatt and the 'Fryatt, Hume' combination just doesn't create enough goals. So that's a don't know.

I think Hume & John as a partnership has more dimensions to it than Fryatt alongside the big man. DJ's also been on a 2 goal scoring spree as well so he'll be in the reckoning upfront as well.

Need to get rid of someone and get a creative midfielder in instead.

Posted
I think Hume & John as a partnership has more dimensions to it than Fryatt alongside the big man. DJ's also been on a 2 goal scoring spree as well so he'll be in the reckoning upfront as well.

Need to get rid of someone and get a creative midfielder in instead.

For once we have striking options, I quiote like the look of Cort and John!! Cort is quite able to hold the ball up and do flick ons, John has the pace and power!!!

Posted
I think Hume & John as a partnership has more dimensions to it than Fryatt alongside the big man. DJ's also been on a 2 goal scoring spree as well so he'll be in the reckoning upfront as well.

Need to get rid of someone and get a creative midfielder in instead.

It's all about opinions, time will tell.

Again agreed.

Posted
God it's quiet on here these past few days. You wait until Reid takes over, it will be buzzing!!!

Anyway, I thought i'd raise a debate on something that's not been done surprisingly.

Iain Hume. Not having a good season is he? This should be a good opportunity for the posters who think Hume is immortalised by some and has never been as good as some make out. I'm one of the people who thinks Iain Hume is as good as any striker in this league on his day and after last seasons 14 goals in a crap team, I was hoping and expecting him to push on and show himself to be a player who might be able to make the step up to the premiership.

What's happened? Playing him in midfield certainly hasn't helped his confidence of scoring goals that's for sure. I was always sceptical of playing Hume anywhere other than up front, even if he does a job on the wing or in the centre of midfield. Still takes him away from what he does best, which is scores goals and usually in quick succession when he's on form. We miss his goals, but since Allen has left and we've played wing-backs, he's not been the same player, even when he returned to playing up front.

I feared for him under Megson, said so at the time. He's a player who certainly blows hot and cold, but even when he's not scoring he still needs to play as he's one of our most dangerous players. I still think he should be playing alongside Collins John through the middle, but with DJ, Fryatt and Cort knocking about, I think it gives our coaches an excuse to play Hume out of position and when Hume get's frustrated with not scoring goals, he becomes more greedy and that has a detrimental effect on our team.

Get him back up front, it's not as if any of our other strikers have scored goals on a regular basis there this season bar Collins John.

Hume is one of our best players, either up fromt or on right mid.

The reason he plays right mid is that we have some other players who can make an impact up front as you have mentioned, but not at right mid. Simple.

One thing I don't I don't understand any city fan who slates the guy as he is the only who gives 100% every match! :thumbup:

Posted

I like Hume in the whole if I'm honest.

With the formation we're playing at the moment he's one of the only people that can play it fairy well. Fryatt just hasn't cut it there, nor has DJ, but let's face it they don't want to play there.

Even when Hume plays upfront he seems to drop off into deeper roles to receive the ball. Problem is, when he does that we're often left with only one striker up top, causing us a problem. That's one of the reasons I'd put him behind the strikers. People always bring up that he may not be the best passer of the ball, I don't think thats true really, when he's on the ball I always think he's very aware.

As for the ideal partnership upfront, at the moment, I'm still unsure. Lately Cort has put in a couple of acceptable performances although there is still mass room for improvement. Fryatt hasn't done anything to amaze me, but for me he's best as an out and out striker. DJ, our top scorer deserves his place in the team of late, always likely to grab a goal and he's actually got himself one or two assists so far. Finally, John has done ok. Lazy as many people have said, but with Hume behind him I feel that could help him.

So..

--Hume

DJ----John

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...