Foxes_Trust Posted 30 December 2007 Posted 30 December 2007 We have today commenced a series of articles looking at our published aims, a review of progress against each aim to date and how we intend to pursue those aims going forward Here is a link to the first article http://foxestrust.co.uk/site/index.php?opt...01&Itemid=2
Hugo Sanchez Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 We have today commenced a series of articles looking at our published aims, a review of progress against each aim to date and how we intend to pursue those aims going forwardHere is a link to the first article http://foxestrust.co.uk/site/index.php?opt...01&Itemid=2 snigger.
Hugo Sanchez Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 The foxes trust is still going There's a few of them left who like to think they are in power. They remind me of the kid who use to hand out the milk at school or a team leader or a bad turd what won't flush.
Vardinhio Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 Foxes Trust? Ah right the half time bingo thing yeh. Nah I don't play, waste of a few quid!
James. Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 Aim - To lobby, publicise and campaign to encourage the Board to take into account the interests of supporters when making its decisions. Review - Over the past 5 years this has been achieved by building relationships with various LCFC board members and speaking directly with them rather than campaigning via the media. Of particular importance was the relationship with the Chief Executive (Tim Davies) and the previous Chairman (Andrew Taylor). Over the period the Trust was consulted on a wide range of topics from ticket pricing, football manager selection, opposition selection for pre-season friendlies and many other topics. The only major disappointment was the introduction of a one year kit deal, which the Trust spoke against from the first time we became aware of the plan and continued to lobby to revert back to a 2 year kit cycle which finally took place this season.... A fundamental concept in business is the setting of objectives and aims that have the following characteristics: Specific Measurable Attainable Relevant Timed Your stated aim above does not demonstrate this criteria. What specific interests of the supporters were you campaigning? How have you measured the success of this campaigning? Is it really possible to fully attain your aim? How? How are you demonstrating the relevance of the objectives you have set? What time horizon was set with which to achieve your aims? The problem I have is that your aim is far too vague and indirect. I want to see hard facts and information about what you plan to achieve, how you will achieve it and over what period of time. You have touched on this with the apparent success of introducing a 2 year kit cycle. Fair enough. But that alone is not enough to convince me that you a successfully "encouraging" the board to take into account the interests of supporters
The People's Hero Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 A fundamental concept in business is the setting of objectives and aims that have the following characteristics:Specific Measurable Attainable Relevant Timed Your stated aim above does not demonstrate this criteria. What specific interests of the supporters were you campaigning? How have you measured the success of this campaigning? Is it really possible to fully attain your aim? How? How are you demonstrating the relevance of the objectives you have set? What time horizon was set with which to achieve your aims? The problem I have is that your aim is far too vague and indirect. I want to see hard facts and information about what you plan to achieve, how you will achieve it and over what period of time. You have touched on this with the apparent success of introducing a 2 year kit cycle. Fair enough. But that alone is not enough to convince me that you a successfully "encouraging" the board to take into account the interests of supporters Careful mate, you've showed a bit of basic knowledge on the way that aims and objectives should be established. They'll be recruiting you soon. Foxes Trust - give it up, please. For the sake of your collective dignity.
stevec Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 We have today commenced a series of articles looking at our published aims, a review of progress against each aim to date and how we intend to pursue those aims going forwardHere is a link to the first article http://foxestrust.co.uk/site/index.php?opt...01&Itemid=2 Oh please - just disband. Whats the point? Join the Supporters Club. What/who do you represent other than yourselves? Your thinly veiled negativeness against Milan in your article just keeps proving what a bunch of *. This January without Milan we would be selling players instead of spending millions. None of the people you courted when casting negative dispersions against the takeover could/would have done this in a million years. "while Milan is in charge" "Of particular importance was the relationship with the Chief Executive (Tim Davies) and the previous Chairman (Andrew Taylor)." Standing on the fence.
Ultra Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 Oh please - just disband. Whats the point? Join the Supporters Club. What/who do you represent other than yourselves?Your thinly veiled negativeness against Milan in your article just keeps proving what a bunch of *. This January without Milan we would be selling players instead of spending millions. None of the people you courted when casting negative dispersions against the takeover could/would have done this in a million years. And of course, we've done soooooo well since Mandaric took over, haven't we? He won't be around forever though...
Jon the Hat Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 And of course, we've done soooooo well since Mandaric took over, haven't we?He won't be around forever though... Are we in fear of administration? Are we about to go into a transfer window with no cash to spend and the likelihood of selling the one or two players who are no completely useless? Mandaric might not be around for ever, but he was the only man who came to the table and got his money out. The other so called bidders turned out to be no more than hot air. He isn't perfect but he is here and he is trying.
Sparky Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 Seems to be having little digs at Mandaric whenever possible
Monk Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 A fundamental concept in business is the setting of objectives and aims that have the following characteristics:Specific Measurable Attainable Relevant Timed Your stated aim above does not demonstrate this criteria. What specific interests of the supporters were you campaigning? How have you measured the success of this campaigning? Is it really possible to fully attain your aim? How? How are you demonstrating the relevance of the objectives you have set? What time horizon was set with which to achieve your aims? The problem I have is that your aim is far too vague and indirect. I want to see hard facts and information about what you plan to achieve, how you will achieve it and over what period of time. You have touched on this with the apparent success of introducing a 2 year kit cycle. Fair enough. But that alone is not enough to convince me that you a successfully "encouraging" the board to take into account the interests of supporters Good post and I completely agree. The true reason these objectives are so vague though is that due to the whole Milan take over now having settled down there really is nothing for the Foxes Trust to achieve. Yes we would like a fans board, but I don't think the Foxes Trust are the right people to take that forward.
Jay Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 it seems obvious to me that the Trust has lost what respect and support it had from the supporters of this club. Their "members" have gone down in numbers every year and represent less than 5% of a full house at the walkers now they represent nothing more than the over inflated egos and inflated state of self importance of those on the board. the time to go is now imo they can't just keep ignoring the majority while representing the minority they are nothing more than a supporters club for those with big egos now
Sly Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 For me, the trust serves only one purpose now, a voice between the fans and the club, which is of course a great benefit to us all. This is also taking into consideration, that LCFC actually listens to what the FoxesTrust has to say. If the club doesn't listen, then they are as useless as a lot of unhappy people moaning on a football forum.
Monk Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 For me, the trust serves only one purpose now, a voice between the fans and the club, which is of course a great benefit to us all. This is also taking into consideration, that LCFC actually listens to what the FoxesTrust has to say. If the club doesn't listen, then they are as useless as a lot of unhappy people moaning on a football forum. Ha, I can't imagine what you're referring to there!!
stevec Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 And of course, we've done soooooo well since Mandaric took over, haven't we?He won't be around forever though... I would suggest that even today we are better off than if we had no Milan. It's not quite gone to a perfect plan but throw in Martin Allen who most people agreed with only to see another Peter Taylor, Gary Megson who ran off, an unlucky run on penalties and an unorganised and unmotivated squad. At this point after the past few performances, Ollies appointment, the apparent better organisation and motivation, and the players we are trying to sign "today" - I feel you would be a fool to argue that things are not beter than they were or even would have been with an alternative. In 6 months I would put money on you would have to remove your anti Milan banners/sigs. Granted no promotion this year - but that would have been a miracle if everything had gone perfect.
stevec Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 For me, the trust serves only one purpose now, a voice between the fans and the club, which is of course a great benefit to us all. This is also taking into consideration, that LCFC actually listens to what the FoxesTrust has to say. If the club doesn't listen, then they are as useless as a lot of unhappy people moaning on a football forum. and we have had an officially recognised supporters club for years
Sly Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 and we have had an officially recognised supporters club for years I wouldn't discourage any link between the club and it's fans. I personally don't know a great deal about the trust or the purpose it serves today. From what I have read, I don't think offer very little but if the club still listens to them then we should use them to channel our opinions. If the club doesn't listen, then they are a pointless waste of time, just like if they only listen to the minority like someone has said.
Fox in a Box Posted 31 December 2007 Posted 31 December 2007 Question to the FOXES TRUST: Please answer this simply. I believe that Mr Mandaric has an option to purchase the Foxestrust shares, has he done this yet? Could you clarify this position.
Foxes_Trust Posted 31 December 2007 Author Posted 31 December 2007 Question to the FOXES TRUST:Please answer this simply. I believe that Mr Mandaric has an option to purchase the Foxestrust shares, has he done this yet? Could you clarify this position. We are waiting to see if Mr Mandaric makes any announcement on this within the next few days, we have informed our members of the current position and if nothing is made public soon, we will detail developments on our website later this week
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