Darkzzz_ Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 5 Dead including Gunman in University Shooting.... That country..... http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-0...-shooting_N.htm
lookwhaticando Posted 15 February 2008 Posted 15 February 2008 There's a new one born every day. RIP the four unlucky victims of lunacy.
Manwell Pablo Posted 15 February 2008 Posted 15 February 2008 There's a new one born every day. RIP the four unlucky victims of lunacy. Where'd you get four from?
Guest Posted 15 February 2008 Posted 15 February 2008 Makes you wonder how many innocent deaths it will take in the states before they do something about their gun laws. RIP the victims
lookwhaticando Posted 15 February 2008 Posted 15 February 2008 Where'd you get four from? It says five dead including gunman. So four victims, plus one idiot. Or it would've been if I was reading the right numbers. I blame the initial poster of the bad news. ---- Actually, looking at it, it seems it's six dead plus the gunman... the numbers have gone up since the article was initially reported.
James. Posted 15 February 2008 Posted 15 February 2008 It says five dead including gunman. So four victims, plus one idiot. Or it would've been if I was reading the right numbers. I blame the initial poster of the bad news. It's 7 in total anyway.
Manwell Pablo Posted 15 February 2008 Posted 15 February 2008 It's 7 in total anyway. Don't be silly the gunman doesn't qualify for a RIP internet tribute.
Jon the Hat Posted 15 February 2008 Posted 15 February 2008 Loads of problems. 1) The idea that arming everyone reduces gun crime. 2) They sell them everywhere. 3) There is Glory in going out in a hail of gunfire.
Smudge Posted 15 February 2008 Posted 15 February 2008 Makes you wonder how many innocent deaths it will take in the states before they do something about their gun laws.RIP the victims Unfortunately, there is neither the will nor the desire to increase gun control. The NRA is a huge lobbyist in DC and they carry too much political clout and finance for them to be ignored.
Head Honcho Posted 15 February 2008 Posted 15 February 2008 5 Dead including Gunman in University Shooting....That country..... http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-0...-shooting_N.htm I know only too well how easy it is for someone to get their hands on a gun and go crazy. My 2nd cousin was convicted in 2002 of shooting his mum dad and sister over a stupid row about him getting into debt. 25 years old and life without parole! He was looking at death row until he admitted all charges and it didn't go to trail. http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_22144.asp
purpleronnie Posted 15 February 2008 Posted 15 February 2008 The above post about NRA is true. I have lived in the US on 3 seperate occassions (soon be 4), and walking around a mall and seeing gun shops right next to clothing stores is a little unsettling but when you grow up in the US guns are an everyday thing. We have the strictist laws in the world so it seems shocking to us. I think once the idiot has gone from the whitehouse then things could possibly get better, clinton tried and succeeded in some areas failed in others. I know a couple of candidates are pushing for tighter gun control. Problem is do you give the NRA what they want and win their vote or go aganist them and risk losing power?
Smudge Posted 15 February 2008 Posted 15 February 2008 I know only too well how easy it is for someone to get their hands on a gun and go crazy.My 2nd cousin was convicted in 2002 of shooting his mum dad and sister over a stupid row about him getting into debt. 25 years old and life without parole! He was looking at death row until he admitted all charges and it didn't go to trail. http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_22144.asp My sympathies Honcho, hard to imagine what your family has been through.
Head Honcho Posted 15 February 2008 Posted 15 February 2008 The above post about NRA is true. I have lived in the US on 3 seperate occassions (soon be 4), and walking around a mall and seeing gun shops right next to clothing stores is a little unsettling but when you grow up in the US guns are an everyday thing. We have the strictist laws in the world so it seems shocking to us.I think once the idiot has gone from the whitehouse then things could possibly get better, clinton tried and succeeded in some areas failed in others. I know a couple of candidates are pushing for tighter gun control. Problem is do you give the NRA what they want and win their vote or go aganist them and risk losing power? WTF has George Bush to do with anything? The democrats run both houses of the us congress and therefore hold most of the power and are able to legislate against gun possession if they so wish. Bush has the power of veto I'm led to believe but it's doubtful he'd use it for something like this!
Head Honcho Posted 15 February 2008 Posted 15 February 2008 My sympathies Honcho, hard to imagine what your family has been through. Thanks for that, but to be honest I'd never met him, his sister or mum and it's over 30 years since I'd met his dad. Having the same great granny was as close as it gets but it's sad whichever way you look at it.
Darkzzz_ Posted 15 February 2008 Author Posted 15 February 2008 I know only too well how easy it is for someone to get their hands on a gun and go crazy.My 2nd cousin was convicted in 2002 of shooting his mum dad and sister over a stupid row about him getting into debt. 25 years old and life without parole! He was looking at death row until he admitted all charges and it didn't go to trail. http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_22144.asp Fooking hell thats your cousin.... Sorry that had to happen in your family mate.... What makes these people lose it??
2bob! Posted 15 February 2008 Posted 15 February 2008 5 Dead including Gunman in University Shooting....That country..... http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-0...-shooting_N.htm You say that country but is it me i think are country is goin exactly the same way!!!!!! More gun crime now than ever b4! Its so easy to get guns nowadays i got offered a sawn of shotgun for 50 squid while at work!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rincewind Posted 15 February 2008 Posted 15 February 2008 there was a programme about youth crime. Glasgo was picked out as an awful place to live. Think about 4 gangs in 2/3 mile radius. Wont go into full details but places like Glasgow there are about 4 gangs in a couple mile radius. If anyone steps into another gangs area the face the chance of being attacked/stabbed. They asked the kids and youth leaders what they would do. They never reccommended the police to help. More jobs and more facilities was what they wanted. One scheme has got ex-gang members running their own sports equipment hire scheme. They have former gang rivals playing on the same 5-a-side football team. Outside the fence there were some youths jeering at them. One lad has to take the groups mini-bus for what would be a five minute walk because he would have to walk through three different gang terrortories. One kid about 9 or 10 said he expected to be involved in fights when older and maybe even killed. Depressing images of the future. But thankfully there is evidence on here (Foxestalk) alone that not all youths are bad. We just hear about the bad ones more through the media. What good is it shoving a youngster in a home when, when he comes out he returns to the same enviroment that caused him to be put away in the first place. Youth clubs are massively underfunded, but if believed GB has promised more funds for them. But somehow I doubt the Tories would be willing to put money iinto it even lmore. Errors edited out hopefully.
Darkzzz_ Posted 16 February 2008 Author Posted 16 February 2008 You say that country but is it me i think are country is goin exactly the same way!!!!!! More gun crime now than ever b4! Its so easy to get guns nowadays i got offered a sawn of shotgun for 50 squid while at work!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh yes i can only agree with you on this... We are heading the same way. Sawn of Shoty at work for £50..... Bargain!!! Seriously though where the hell do you work if you can get access to guns??
purpleronnie Posted 16 February 2008 Posted 16 February 2008 Glasgow is really bad wasnt it the murder capital of europe at one point?
Trav Le Bleu Posted 16 February 2008 Posted 16 February 2008 Charlton Heston, President of the NRA, said "So as we set out this year to defeat the divisive forces that would take freedom away, I want to say those words again for everyone within the sound of my voice to hear and to heed, and especially for you, Mr. Gore: From my cold dead hands!" at a rally following Columbine. I say, LET'S DO IT!
2bob! Posted 16 February 2008 Posted 16 February 2008 Oh yes i can only agree with you on this... We are heading the same way.Sawn of Shoty at work for £50..... Bargain!!! Seriously though where the hell do you work if you can get access to guns?? I was working on a pub down in Worcester and one of the guys there offered it to me! Just shows you how easy access is to guns!
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