filbertboy Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 Looking at the Month of March there are seven games 4 home 3 away.....How many points do you think we will get ?? Cardiff A L 0-1 Preston H W 1-0 Bristol C H D 1-1 Southampton A L 0-2 W Brom A L 1-2 Hull H D 1-1 S*unthorpe H W 2-0 Really hope I'm wrong ....thats only eight points !
Mikey Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 Looking at the Month of March there are seven games 4 home 3 away.....How many points do you think we will get ??Cardiff A L 0-1 Preston H W 1-0 Bristol C H D 1-1 Southampton A L 0-2 W Brom A L 1-2 Hull H D 1-1 S*unthorpe H W 2-0 Really hope I'm wrong ....thats only eight points ! I was thinking that that's generous on Leicester.
He's not bald Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 Looking at the Month of March there are seven games 4 home 3 away.....How many points do you think we will get ??Cardiff A L 0-1 Preston H W 1-0 Bristol C H D 1-1 Southampton A L 0-2 W Brom A L 1-2 Hull H D 1-1 S*unthorpe H W 2-0 That's a bit optimistic,going 2 games without losing? Really hope I'm wrong ....thats only eight points !
demon_dog Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 It's always the same, once again after a dismal performance the fans in the pub start talking about relegation worries. Checking the stats over the last 6 seasons, the third placed team in the relegation zone have had the following points, Season 01/02 49 points 02/03 48 points 03/04 50 points 04/05 51 points 05/06 50 points 06/07 49 points On that basis we need to look to get a minimum of 52 points to just possibly avoid the drop zone. We have 12 games left to play this season with a possible 36 points up for grabs, we currently have 37 points, so where do our 15 points needed come from. My view is; Cardiff (A) Loss Preston (H) Win Bristol City (H) Draw (hopeful) Southampton (A) Loss WBA (A) Loss Hull (H) Draw S****horpe (H) Win Sheff Utd (A) Draw Colchester (H) Win Barnsley (A) Draw Sheff Wed (H) Win Stoke (A) Loss Total 16pts, To close for comfort in my opinion. Comments please.
filbertboy Posted 24 February 2008 Author Posted 24 February 2008 I was thinking that that's generous on Leicester. Yep maybe on reflection you are right. If you are then its going to be difficult to get to safety.
MikeyT Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 It's always the same, once again after a dismal performance the fans in the pub start talking about relegation worries.Checking the stats over the last 6 seasons, the third placed team in the relegation zone have had the following points, Season 01/02 49 points 02/03 48 points 03/04 50 points 04/05 51 points 05/06 50 points 06/07 49 points On that basis we need to look to get a minimum of 52 points to just possibly avoid the drop zone. We have 12 games left to play this season with a possible 36 points up for grabs, we currently have 37 points, so where do our 15 points needed come from. My view is; Cardiff (A) Loss Preston (H) Win Bristol City (H) Draw (hopeful) Southampton (A) Loss WBA (A) Loss Hull (H) Draw S****horpe (H) Win Sheff Utd (A) Draw Colchester (H) Win Barnsley (A) Draw Sheff Wed (H) Win Stoke (A) Loss Total 16pts, To close for comfort in my opinion. Comments please. The Preston game is a must win game!! I think if we get beat then it could signal a change in management again, but i hope not!!!!!
FleckneyFox Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 I really think we will be relegated atm. if we lose just one of those games vs bottom 4 we're screwed
MC Prussian Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 I wish Milan would go out and buy the remaining necessary points from the Football League. Say half a million each? Fair price? Oi, that'd be bribery... Shame.
Thracian Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 It's always the same, once again after a dismal performance the fans in the pub start talking about relegation worries.Checking the stats over the last 6 seasons, the third placed team in the relegation zone have had the following points, Season 01/02 49 points 02/03 48 points 03/04 50 points 04/05 51 points 05/06 50 points 06/07 49 points On that basis we need to look to get a minimum of 52 points to just possibly avoid the drop zone. We have 12 games left to play this season with a possible 36 points up for grabs, we currently have 37 points, so where do our 15 points needed come from. My view is; Cardiff (A) Loss Preston (H) Win Bristol City (H) Draw (hopeful) Southampton (A) Loss WBA (A) Loss Hull (H) Draw S****horpe (H) Win Sheff Utd (A) Draw Colchester (H) Win Barnsley (A) Draw Sheff Wed (H) Win Stoke (A) Loss Total 16pts, To close for comfort in my opinion. Comments please. First problem is we'll need to collect more than a point a game and we're not doing that on average right now. Six of the games are away and we've not won away for 11 games since November 24, basically since Holloway arrived. There's no such thing for us an an easy or expected-to-win away game any more and Cardiff, Southampton, WBA, Sheffield United and Stoke provide five of the opponents which is hardly encouraging. Seems to me it's all down to home form yet three of those games will be against fellow strugglers fighting for their lives and almost certain to go for a smash-and-grab raid, and we're not too clever at dealing with that. You've generously put us down for four home wins and two draws but there's no precedent for that so far this season and nothing that's happening on the pitch really convinces me it's likely. The Coventry home win was fine, as was Norwich but, generally, we're a bit faltering even now and nervousness will become even more apparent as the season reaches its climax which, again, won't help us. Publicity too could well centre around the prospect of our £multi-million investor Milan Mandaric facing the ignominy of relegation and, psychologically, that's not going to help. It's shaping up very tight indeed and I imagine Holloway will be relying on his Chosen Men because I doubt he'll have endeared himself to others by sending them out of the picture so quickly and, in my belief, unfairly. Oh yes, he needs em now as he was always going to need them, plus Hayes, Gradel and Shush! on top. But they're not even options anymore and whether the consequences will prove fatal to our survival in The Championship remains to be seen. I say that because we're woefully exposed to loss of personnel through injury and because we so lack the sort of options that can perhaps change games. Yes we have alternatives but they're mostly like for like. We don't have Gradel for his flair and shooting/creative ability. We don't use King for his passing, shooting and ability to support through to the box. We don't use Beswick who is a naturally intelligent and positive creator who also scores and takes good free kicks. Altogether we have so few people with the ability to make something happen and to help improve our already woeful goals tally.. I see us getting around 13 points which would give us 50 points. Just enough to survive in my view, but not for sure and certainly not if my prediction is too optimistic.
CaptainClemence Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 It's always the same, once again after a dismal performance the fans in the pub start talking about relegation worries.Checking the stats over the last 6 seasons, the third placed team in the relegation zone have had the following points, Season 01/02 49 points 02/03 48 points 03/04 50 points 04/05 51 points 05/06 50 points 06/07 49 points On that basis we need to look to get a minimum of 52 points to just possibly avoid the drop zone. We have 12 games left to play this season with a possible 36 points up for grabs, we currently have 37 points, so where do our 15 points needed come from. My view is; Cardiff (A) Loss Preston (H) Win Bristol City (H) Draw (hopeful) Southampton (A) Loss WBA (A) Loss Hull (H) Draw S****horpe (H) Win Sheff Utd (A) Draw Colchester (H) Win Barnsley (A) Draw Sheff Wed (H) Win Stoke (A) Loss Total 16pts, To close for comfort in my opinion. Comments please. You need to look at what the team in the relegation zone got not the team above the drop zone. We would have only needed 43 points to survive last season not 49. In the last 2 seasons, 43 points was enough to survive. This season though, teams in the drop zone are getting a lot more points, there isn't a Derby of the Championship, totally out of it.
pauliepaul Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 Looking at the Month of March there are seven games 4 home 3 away.....How many points do you think we will get ??Cardiff A L 0-1 - Cardiff strong squad under achieving?? Preston H W 1-0 you are having a laugh they narowly missed a win at the weekend -will come back to form. Bristol C H D 1-1 no chance city have their tails up - will try for the smash and grab at the stadium of crisps Southampton A L 0-2 again under achieving will have the rocket up them! W Brom A L 1-2 agreed Hull H D 1-1 Hull looked really good on the championship - new lad very impressive composure wise.. S*unthorpe H W 2-0 they will battle for scraps - no guarantee.. Really hope I'm wrong ....thats only eight points !
Father Ted Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 Cardiff (A) Loss Preston (H) Win Bristol City (H) Draw Southampton (A) Draw WBA (A) Loss - Big time! Hull (H) Loss S****horpe (H) Win Sheff Utd (A) Loss Colchester (H) Win Barnsley (A) Draw Sheff Wed (H) Win Stoke (A) Loss - Although it depends whether we're safe or not and they've been promoted or not. That's 15 points but we should be the 3 teams below us!
Master Fox Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 After what we went through last season it was hard to imagine we would have got ourselves into an even worse situation. I couldn't handle the thought of us getting relegated last year, but now i'm actually thinking it wouldn't be such a bad thing, or is it that i couldn't really care anymore?? Supporting Leicester has become horrible thing to have live with, in League 1 it wouldn't matter so much.
Asha Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 Cardiff (A) Draw Preston (H) Win Bristol City (H) Win Southampton (A) Win WBA (A) Loss Hull (H) Draw S****horpe (H) Draw Sheff Utd (A) Loss Colchester (H) Win Barnsley (A) Draw Sheff Wed (H) Loss Stoke (A) Loss 16 points.
Bluenose76 Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 Its going to be close for sure but in this division its impossible to make predictions (Blackpool yesterday anyone). I'll tell you what I think will happen. We will lose some games we thought we would win and win some games we thought we would lose, thats the CCC for you. If you are going to work out figures, then really you need to work out the opposing teams around us as well. Its all well and dandy saying we should need 15 points but that doesn't take into account the teams below us picking up points as well.
Nod.E Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 Cardiff (A) Draw Preston (H) Win Bristol City (H) Draw Southampton (A) Loss WBA (A) Loss Hull (H) Draw S****horpe (H) Win Sheff Utd (A) Loss Colchester (H) Win Barnsley (A) Draw Sheff Wed (H) Win Stoke (A) Loss 16 points in my opinion. Looks like another nail biting end to the season! Lavely.
maddog Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 It is going to be so so tricky to survive this season. In the last 2 seasons there have been 3 under performing teams, who have each got little points. Southend 42 points Luton 40 points Leeds 36 points made up the bottom 3 last season. 43 points enough to survive. The previous season Crewe 42 points Millwall 40 points Brighton 38 points made up the drop zone, conincidently 43 points enough for survival again. The teams 1 place above the drop zone in those 2 seasons, where we could easily finish were well ahead, Hull City 7 points ahead of the drop last season, QPR 8 points ahead in the previous. This shows those bottom 3 teams were not miles away from survival, but certainly not a short way either. This season it's a lot different. It's one of the closest i have ever seen, in the relegation and promotion races, anyone can beat anyone. This is bad for a side like us in a relegation battle, good for sides in the promotion battle. The winners of the Championship this season, look set to get, at the very maximum, 80 points. And Stoke who are top now, will have to average over 2 points a game for the final 12 to reach that 80 point total. Last season all of the top 3 got well over 80 points, and the winners Sunderland a massive 88 points. Last, last season A HUGE 110 points for winners Reading, 90 points for 2nd place and 80 points or more for 3rd and 4th! So the winners of the Championship this year are going to seriously struggle to achieve the points that 3rd place got last season, and that 4th place got 2 seasons ago. It's very likely the winners of the League this year get 75 points, which last season and the season before, would only have got you in 6th place, yet this season 1st! This leaves us in a right fine mess. Cardiff away is a draw at best realistically, Preston is certainly a must win, as WBA away and Southampton away are certain loses for me. Bristol game who knows? Possibly a draw although we beat them away so can't predict that. The 3 sides in the zone this season now look almost certainly to get miles over 43 points which would have kept you in this division in the last 2 seasons, they all have around 1 point a game so far and lets say they all get 1 point a game in their remaining fixtures, a fair prediction considering the results they are picking up, then we would need 48 points to survive. Another 11 points. We may need slightly less than 48 if the bottom 3 currently totally collaspe in their last few games, which for me just won't happen. It is extremely likely we will need 50+ points to survive, they will be fighting hard, i see no fight in us. The next 5 games for me, will give us at very best, 5 points. They may prove me wrong, but i just can't see us getting anything at WBA and Southampton. This leaves us with just 7 games to go. Theres no doubt we are in serious trouble. And have spent so much money. What seemed like good decisions at the time, i.e. loaning out the youngsters to give them games, releasing certain players may have totally backfired. Im sure Ollie at the time feels like he is making good decisions, dropping certain players. But for me, we could sure use, Shush!, Hayes, King, Weso, A Chambers. Even Kaebi and De Vries, especially De Vries for me, deserved more of a chance this season. Ollie has put all his hope in his new signings, and chucked aside any options we may have if the new signings fail. I know these are good players, but if you look at it negativly we have signed 2 Premiership rejects from the worst team in the Premier division. Signings before Ollie, 2 more Premiership rejects from one of the bottom clubs in the Premier division. These players for me should be good enough to easily save us but they are not playing football, perhaps they are not as great as they seemed. The main facts are though, that if the players don't perform and we lose, it's their fault. If the players just aren't good enough, it's Ollie's fault for signing them. If the players are good enough, Ollie just isn't motivating, wrong tactics etc its his fault. Ultimately, if the manager isn't good enough, has erased all our options of the youngsters who will desperately want to play for the shirt, and spent money on players who are slowly going down the slope.... It's Milan's fault for appointing that manager. Everyone has a part in this but if we go down, it's the man at the top who should have sorted it out, and no matter how much money he has, Milan Mandaric will be to blame if we end up in League1
He's not bald Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 It is going to be so so tricky to survive this season. In the last 2 seasons there have been 3 under performing teams, who have each got little points. Southend 42 points Luton 40 points Leeds 36 points made up the bottom 3 last season. 43 points enough to survive.The previous season Crewe 42 points Millwall 40 points Brighton 38 points made up the drop zone, conincidently 43 points enough for survival again. The teams 1 place above the drop zone in those 2 seasons, where we could easily finish were well ahead, Hull City 7 points ahead of the drop last season, QPR 8 points ahead in the previous. This shows those bottom 3 teams were not miles away from survival, but certainly not a short way either. This season it's a lot different. It's one of the closest i have ever seen, in the relegation and promotion races, anyone can beat anyone. This is bad for a side like us in a relegation battle, good for sides in the promotion battle. The winners of the Championship this season, look set to get, at the very maximum, 80 points. And Stoke who are top now, will have to average over 2 points a game for the final 12 to reach that 80 point total. Last season all of the top 3 got well over 80 points, and the winners Sunderland a massive 88 points. Last, last season A HUGE 110 points for winners Reading, 90 points for 2nd place and 80 points or more for 3rd and 4th! So the winners of the Championship this year are going to seriously struggle to achieve the points that 3rd place got last season, and that 4th place got 2 seasons ago. It's very likely the winners of the League this year get 75 points, which last season and the season before, would only have got you in 6th place, yet this season 1st! This leaves us in a right fine mess. Cardiff away is a draw at best realistically, Preston is certainly a must win, as WBA away and Southampton away are certain loses for me. Bristol game who knows? Possibly a draw although we beat them away so can't predict that. The 3 sides in the zone this season now look almost certainly to get miles over 43 points which would have kept you in this division in the last 2 seasons, they all have around 1 point a game so far and lets say they all get 1 point a game in their remaining fixtures, a fair prediction considering the results they are picking up, then we would need 48 points to survive. Another 11 points. We may need slightly less than 48 if the bottom 3 currently totally collaspe in their last few games, which for me just won't happen. It is extremely likely we will need 50+ points to survive, they will be fighting hard, i see no fight in us. The next 5 games for me, will give us at very best, 5 points. They may prove me wrong, but i just can't see us getting anything at WBA and Southampton. This leaves us with just 7 games to go. Theres no doubt we are in serious trouble. And have spent so much money. What seemed like good decisions at the time, i.e. loaning out the youngsters to give them games, releasing certain players may have totally backfired. Im sure Ollie at the time feels like he is making good decisions, dropping certain players. But for me, we could sure use, Shush!, Hayes, King, Weso, A Chambers. Even Kaebi and De Vries, especially De Vries for me, deserved more of a chance this season. Ollie has put all his hope in his new signings, and chucked aside any options we may have if the new signings fail. I know these are good players, but if you look at it negativly we have signed 2 Premiership rejects from the worst team in the Premier division. Signings before Ollie, 2 more Premiership rejects from one of the bottom clubs in the Premier division. These players for me should be good enough to easily save us but they are not playing football, perhaps they are not as great as they seemed. The main facts are though, that if the players don't perform and we lose, it's their fault. If the players just aren't good enough, it's Ollie's fault for signing them. If the players are good enough, Ollie just isn't motivating, wrong tactics etc its his fault. Ultimately, if the manager isn't good enough, has erased all our options of the youngsters who will desperately want to play for the shirt, and spent money on players who are slowly going down the slope.... It's Milan's fault for appointing that manager. Everyone has a part in this but if we go down, it's the man at the top who should have sorted it out, and no matter how much money he has, Milan Mandaric will be to blame if we end up in League1 Blimey that's a rant! Better start winning then!
leicesterseddon Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 I wish Milan would go out and buy the remaining necessary points from the Football League.Say half a million each? Fair price? Oi, that'd be bribery... Shame. hasn't stopped him before
filbertboy Posted 24 February 2008 Author Posted 24 February 2008 [/b]hasn't stopped him before ha ha ha
Thracian Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 Looking at the Month of March there are seven games 4 home 3 away.....How many points do you think we will get ?? Cardiff A L 0-1 Preston H W 1-0 Bristol C H D 1-1 Southampton A L 0-2 W Brom A L 1-2 Hull H D 1-1 S*unthorpe H W 2-0 Really hope I'm wrong ....thats only eight points ! Let's trust we don't have a repeat of last March when we combined the experienced guys with the mostly experienced loanees, just like we've done now... We didn't win a game from five. The whole month produced two points from draws against Southend and Leeds. Otherwise it was defeats by Palace, QPR and Stoke.
Metartarsal Posted 25 February 2008 Posted 25 February 2008 On a cheerier subject, as one of the 5,000, how bad how was our comedian of a commentator today? There is an upside to going down though. Carlisle may be coming up. PS Incidentally, five wins will see us stay up for me...I can't see us getting more than three and none on the road. Yes, we have teams around us to play, but there's not many teams we face who have little to play for, though that could change. This might be the closest shave yet. I just pray to the Almighty we are safe before we go to the Britannia because they would just....love.....to send us down. Mandaric is a lot more to blame for this plight than Holloway, for whom I have a little sympathy, but not much. Cardiff A Preston H WIN Bristol City H Southampton A West Brom A Hull H S****horpe H Sheff Utd A Colchester H WIN Barnsley A Sheff Wed H WIN Stoke A
Chrysalis Posted 25 February 2008 Posted 25 February 2008 It is going to be so so tricky to survive this season. In the last 2 seasons there have been 3 under performing teams, who have each got little points. Southend 42 points Luton 40 points Leeds 36 points made up the bottom 3 last season. 43 points enough to survive.The previous season Crewe 42 points Millwall 40 points Brighton 38 points made up the drop zone, conincidently 43 points enough for survival again. The teams 1 place above the drop zone in those 2 seasons, where we could easily finish were well ahead, Hull City 7 points ahead of the drop last season, QPR 8 points ahead in the previous. This shows those bottom 3 teams were not miles away from survival, but certainly not a short way either. This season it's a lot different. It's one of the closest i have ever seen, in the relegation and promotion races, anyone can beat anyone. This is bad for a side like us in a relegation battle, good for sides in the promotion battle. The winners of the Championship this season, look set to get, at the very maximum, 80 points. And Stoke who are top now, will have to average over 2 points a game for the final 12 to reach that 80 point total. Last season all of the top 3 got well over 80 points, and the winners Sunderland a massive 88 points. Last, last season A HUGE 110 points for winners Reading, 90 points for 2nd place and 80 points or more for 3rd and 4th! So the winners of the Championship this year are going to seriously struggle to achieve the points that 3rd place got last season, and that 4th place got 2 seasons ago. It's very likely the winners of the League this year get 75 points, which last season and the season before, would only have got you in 6th place, yet this season 1st! This leaves us in a right fine mess. Cardiff away is a draw at best realistically, Preston is certainly a must win, as WBA away and Southampton away are certain loses for me. Bristol game who knows? Possibly a draw although we beat them away so can't predict that. The 3 sides in the zone this season now look almost certainly to get miles over 43 points which would have kept you in this division in the last 2 seasons, they all have around 1 point a game so far and lets say they all get 1 point a game in their remaining fixtures, a fair prediction considering the results they are picking up, then we would need 48 points to survive. Another 11 points. We may need slightly less than 48 if the bottom 3 currently totally collaspe in their last few games, which for me just won't happen. It is extremely likely we will need 50+ points to survive, they will be fighting hard, i see no fight in us. The next 5 games for me, will give us at very best, 5 points. They may prove me wrong, but i just can't see us getting anything at WBA and Southampton. This leaves us with just 7 games to go. Theres no doubt we are in serious trouble. And have spent so much money. What seemed like good decisions at the time, i.e. loaning out the youngsters to give them games, releasing certain players may have totally backfired. Im sure Ollie at the time feels like he is making good decisions, dropping certain players. But for me, we could sure use, Shush!, Hayes, King, Weso, A Chambers. Even Kaebi and De Vries, especially De Vries for me, deserved more of a chance this season. Ollie has put all his hope in his new signings, and chucked aside any options we may have if the new signings fail. I know these are good players, but if you look at it negativly we have signed 2 Premiership rejects from the worst team in the Premier division. Signings before Ollie, 2 more Premiership rejects from one of the bottom clubs in the Premier division. These players for me should be good enough to easily save us but they are not playing football, perhaps they are not as great as they seemed. The main facts are though, that if the players don't perform and we lose, it's their fault. If the players just aren't good enough, it's Ollie's fault for signing them. If the players are good enough, Ollie just isn't motivating, wrong tactics etc its his fault. Ultimately, if the manager isn't good enough, has erased all our options of the youngsters who will desperately want to play for the shirt, and spent money on players who are slowly going down the slope.... It's Milan's fault for appointing that manager. Everyone has a part in this but if we go down, it's the man at the top who should have sorted it out, and no matter how much money he has, Milan Mandaric will be to blame if we end up in League1 good analysis of the league but expect at least 1 shock result, remember prestons home form last year and the win we needed came from the most unlikely game. I agree although our home form has picked up the away form is now shocking and this year the bottom terams have more and the top teams less. I think we will survive but it will be tight possibly on goal difference.
demon_dog Posted 25 February 2008 Posted 25 February 2008 I will get seriously worried when relegation looks a strong possiblity and the stadium announcer starts giving us League 1 results. Remember this happened when we came down from the Premiership, it was pretty obvious that the club were brainwashing us prior to the next season.
Staf Posted 25 February 2008 Posted 25 February 2008 Cardiff - Defeat Preston H- Draw Bristol C - Defeat Southampton - Defeat W Brom -Defeat Hull - Draw S*unthorpe - Win
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