Ingy Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 Gandhi would rather the money be spent on the poor wouldn't he? rather than a statue of him which will do nothing for race relations here. Would rather have Ghandi. Lineker is good, but not quite statue worthy. Yet.
Ingy Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 Here is a quote form Gandhi... "It would be a sad day fior England if it has to inherit the Indian scale and the Indian tastes so utterly unsuitable to the English environment"
Barry Trotter Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 Also I didn't aproach any news paper concerning this issue, only the Independent news paper came to me.and even if I did aproach any news papers or any media, it would be to expose this nonsense of this statue in order to let our people know what exactly is going on in their city and country, as unlike you, I care very much about the English and England. Your an Idiot.
Ingy Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 I agree with most of that Raj, I don't care if we don't have any more statues. The Mandela Park, is a case of, the English again not being consulted, as many don't want that park named after a terrorist murderer! Mandela stated in his book 'The long walk to freedom' concerning the Church St bombing, that he signed off with this act of terrorism. People will always have bad things to say about ANYONE.The likes of Jesus,Martin Luther King,Malcolm X,Mother Teresa etc....if one person idolises them another one will hate them. Its the ways of the World. Im sure there are even people who hate me or BigGibbo!!! However this statue business is a load of bollox. I even wrote in to the Mercury(i do that now and again!) to express my views. I admire Gandhi(THAT is MY view!) But NO WAY should a statue be built in his honour. Even though it is for Belgrave Road and partly funded by The Hindu temple or whatever(20k i think!) We shouldnt even have one of Lineker(legend though he is) Some may say Walshie has achieved more for us than Lineker We have a statue in Gallowtree Gate commemorating all 3 Sporting teams(major ones! ie Tigers,Cricket and City)and that is great. No one can moan about that(though im sure they will!) We have a park named after Nelson Mandela...fair enough surely? BUT why do we need a statue anyway???...of ANYONE!!!! Within days it will probably get vandalised or something.. There are people like Sir Alec Jeffreys,the inventor of DNA profiling who has helped enormously with crime fighting. People have mentioned the Attenborough boys, Joe Olton,Daniel Lambert even... Leicester is a dump at the moment. Millions are being invested into it. Lets get the infrastructure right before we fcuk around with stupid statues! Im going now!!!!
Ingy Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 Whats with the personal attack? I haven't attacked you personally on here, so why do you feel the need to attack me with an insult? Its very childish and its easy to hide behind a screen with on-line bullying behaviour isn't it. Your an Idiot.
Ingy Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 If these street ames are not considered contriversual, and the majorety of the English public are fine with them, then no they shouldn't be changed. Do you want me to change my name to Roger too. Just to make things simpler! St matthews have names of Roads after Canadian Cities(Ie Ottawa Road etc...) Rushey mead have names after golfers(ie Nicholas Drive) should all these be renamed....i mean they arent ENGLISH are they??? OI! Just for that you can get the Cappucinos in on Sat!!!
accessory Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 I agree with most of that Raj,I don't care if we don't have any more statues. The Mandela Park, is a case of, the English again not being consulted, as many don't want that park named after a terrorist murderer! Mandela stated in his book 'The long walk to freedom' concerning the Church St bombing, that he signed off with this act of terrorism. So Mandela is a "terrorist" and a "murderer" is he? I don't think so. You've let the cat out of the bag. You would be opposed to ANY non-white person being honoured in Leicester. Contrary to what the Sun suggested, the city was NEVER asked between to choose between Gandhi or Lineker. As sources at the council have stated, it would be happy to have statues of both. Finally, I know plenty of white folk, as English as you or I, who have lived happily in Belgrave for decades. To suggest they are being "pushed out" or "cleansed" is inaccurate and grossly offensive. Go and take your racist agenda somewhere else. It's not wanted here.
Ingy Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 No its not, what is said by myself is not born out of hatred, it is born out of concern for seeing the English in England being pushed out and ignored in their own land and never taken into consideration concerning these sort of issue that start to change the face of our landscape etc. I also wouldn't want to see this happen to any other countries people including Indians. this argument just seems to be another excuse to have a go at the asain community imo
Ingy Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 I understand this Sikh view, incedently, There are some Sikh sounding names on the Downing St petition against the Gandhi statue. Not at all, let's not generalise either, Gandhi is a Indian\Hindu Icon from the Gujarat community. My roots are from the Punjab and of Sikh Origin, people from my origin have no love affair with Gandhi!!!The people mooting the idea are gujarati hindus, and belgrave road is prominantly gujarati, so it's not a asain issue as such, and to connect me with this proposal or with the gujarati community, I would find offensive!! Just to add, naming a park\street etc is quite different to havig a statue, the park has a use for the general public, and is not a graven image of Mandela, I would have had no problem with them naming a park after a Indian icon other then Gandhi because that cooont was a racist, but a statue is a symbol, statement, a rememberance that reflects the people who see it!!!
Ingy Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 Oh no not the race card!?... the tool of the far left to gagg debate, which will not work on me, as I do not bow down to far left facists tricks like this. I would also oppose a statue of a Polish person, so this has nothing to do with colour of skin. Yes corect we have never been given a choice of statues, its just a case of part of the Asian comunity deciding they want to erect a statue of Gandhi, whch has met with huge oporsition from the English community mainly, with one peition reaching over the 800 marker and counting. The Media Gandhi V Garry thing is just a media trick to help promote the Gadhi statue to gain more support for it, i.e. Gandhi a world figure of peace (debatable) and a footballer, the medis thohght this would look like a foregone conculsion in favour of Gandhi, and even this back fired, as the majorety would prefure a Garry Liniker statue! Yes there maybe a few English people living in the Belgrave area, who do not feel pushed out etc I do not deny this, BUT there are also many many English who do feel pushed out by all other ethnic groups settling in Leicester including the Asian community. Why do you feel there isn't a multi-cultural mix of half English and half Indian n the Belgrave area? So Mandela is a "terrorist" and a "murderer" is he? I don't think so.You've let the cat out of the bag. You would be opposed to ANY non-white person being honoured in Leicester. Contrary to what the Sun suggested, the city was NEVER asked between to choose between Gandhi or Lineker. As sources at the council have stated, it would be happy to have statues of both. Finally, I know plenty of white folk, as English as you or I, who have lived happily in Belgrave for decades. To suggest they are being "pushed out" or "cleansed" is inaccurate and grossly offensive. Go and take your racist agenda somewhere else. It's not wanted here.
accessory Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 this argument just seems to be another excuse to have a go at the asian community imo Ain't that the truth? Some folk still yearn for the return of the empire. But it's gone, and there's no way it'll ever return. It's 2008. We should move on.
lavrentis Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 To be honest I couldn't care less about the statue. When i take mates to Leicester games and we go through Melton road you can imagine what they are like. Its only a statue and people are never always going to be happy whoever it is. It's not worth having one, theres better things to spend the money on like the city regeneration.
Ingy Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 I too do not agree with the British Empire at all, your not talking to a 'two world wars one world cup' mentality here. the British government do not represent me and never have done. I do not agree with the British government poking their nose into any other countries business, including Iraq and Afganistan. Ain't that the truth?Some folk still yearn for the return of the empire. But it's gone, and there's no way it'll ever return. It's 2008. We should move on.
Webbo Posted 14 March 2008 Posted 14 March 2008 Oh no not the race card!?... the tool of the far left to gagg debate, which will not work on me, as I do not bow down to far left facists tricks like this.I would also oppose a statue of a Polish person, so this has nothing to do with colour of skin. Yes corect we have never been given a choice of statues, its just a case of part of the Asian comunity deciding they want to erect a statue of Gandhi, whch has met with huge oporsition from the English community mainly, with one peition reaching over the 800 marker and counting. The Media Gandhi V Garry thing is just a media trick to help promote the Gadhi statue to gain more support for it, i.e. Gandhi a world figure of peace (debatable) and a footballer, the medis thohght this would look like a foregone conculsion in favour of Gandhi, and even this back fired, as the majorety would prefure a Garry Liniker statue! Yes there maybe a few English people living in the Belgrave area, who do not feel pushed out etc I do not deny this, BUT there are also many many English who do feel pushed out by all other ethnic groups settling in Leicester including the Asian community. Why do you feel there isn't a multi-cultural mix of half English and half Indian n the Belgrave area? Who are you? You've joined today and you've made 14 posts all in this thread. Are you actually a city fan or have you just come on here to do some campaigning?
Fox You Forest Posted 15 March 2008 Posted 15 March 2008 Who are you? You've joined today and you've made 14 posts all in this thread. Are you actually a city fan or have you just come on here to do some campaigning? I wonder who he votes for.
Zingari Posted 15 March 2008 Posted 15 March 2008 I cannot see why a statue of Ghandi has any more relevance to Leicester than would one of Abraham Lincoln Are we so ashamed of our city that we just want to bask in the reflected glory of someone that, at best, can only be described as having tenuous links to the city by virtue of having a high Asian population ( many of whom do not subscribe to his saintly image ) By this logic, Lech Walesa should also be considered , or Eamonn de Valera We want one of Showaddywaddy please
Micky Ruddle Posted 15 March 2008 Posted 15 March 2008 Bleeding piss take. So, he was a great man for the Asians i believe. Get a statue for him elsewhere. Not here. It's thought that this bloke hadn't stepped foot in Leicester in his time..so we put a statue up for him. Good gesture, but no thanks. Not here in Leicester Gary Lineker, i could be actually quite disgusted if it was't Lineker
DB11 Posted 15 March 2008 Posted 15 March 2008 A statue in India is fine but one in Leicester? Sorry, but no. We should be celebrating local heros. You won't be able to tell the difference soon.
Micky Ruddle Posted 15 March 2008 Posted 15 March 2008 You won't be able to tell the difference soon. :w00t:
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